Random Fail: First World Problems

[Vaspinne]

To add to the tip discussion, a lot of people (the vast majority really) don't realize that servers have to tip out the restaurant that they work at. This is more or less common at all restaurants. Typically around 5% of a servers sales are calculated towards a restaurant tip out.

The tip out is meant to be used to pay the hosts, bartenders and kitchen workers a little extra (i.e., so the restaurant can cheap out and avoid paying those guys decent wages). And the tip out is taken from servers sales regardless of whether they actually get tipped on a check or not.

So say your check is $100 and you tip $10, you leave thinking "oh, that guy just made $10" when really half of it went to the restaurant. And it's why servers get mad as fuck when people stiff them on tips at all because they have to pay that shit out of their pocket. And it's not like minimum wage is good. I know in Canada a few provinces actually have a lower minimum wage for servers specifically because it's just assumed that they'll get tipped. And god knows some of the really really shitty hourly wages some States in the US pays servers (talking like $2~3 an hour).

That being said, as someone who worked in the service industry, tipping is 100% not mandatory in my opinion. It's a kind gesture and a show of appreciation. But a lot of people (restaurant owners/governments/plenty of jaded as fuck servers) feel like they're entitled to that shit. Which I don't think is the case. When I worked in a restaurant, I worked my ass off to earn that shit. But I also worked with plenty of lazy assholes who didn't put in an effort and then bitched and moaned when they weren't "tipped properly".

Also, Vagus is a young Asian guy from Vancouver (Richmond) BC. Believe me, in the service industry we didn't expect much from young Asian people from Richmond lol. Basically everything he's said about this discussion is more or less when you can expect from Richmond

[Vandalhart]

To add to the tip discussion, a lot of people (the vast majority really) don't realize that servers have to tip out the restaurant that they work at. This is more or less common at all restaurants. Typically around 5% of a servers sales are calculated towards a restaurant tip out.

The tip out is meant to be used to pay the hosts, bartenders and kitchen workers a little extra (i.e., so the restaurant can cheap out and avoid paying those guys decent wages). And the tip out is taken from servers sales regardless of whether they actually get tipped on a check or not.

So say your check is $100 and you tip $10, you leave thinking "oh, that guy just made $10" when really half of it went to the restaurant. And it's why servers get mad as fuck when people stiff them on tips at all because they have to pay that shit out of their pocket. And it's not like minimum wage is good. I know in Canada a few provinces actually have a lower minimum wage for servers specifically because it's just assumed that they'll get tipped. And god knows some of the really really shitty hourly wages some States in the US pays servers (talking like $2~3 an hour).

That being said, as someone who worked in the service industry, tipping is 100% not mandatory in my opinion. It's a kind gesture and a show of appreciation. But a lot of people (restaurant owners/governments/plenty of jaded as fuck servers) feel like they're entitled to that shit. Which I don't think is the case. When I worked in a restaurant, I worked my ass off to earn that shit. But I also worked with plenty of lazy assholes who didn't put in an effort and then bitched and moaned when they weren't "tipped properly".

Also, Vagus is a young Asian guy from Vancouver (Richmond) BC. Believe me, in the service industry we didn't expect much from young Asian people from Richmond lol. Basically everything he's said about this discussion is more or less when you can expect from Richmond

I was actually unaware of the tip out thing. I can see why people probably got uppity and wanted something like that implemented. Though I'm not sure why you're 5% added up to 50% there.


I don't think there's a way to make it "fair" to everyone. The closest thing I can think of would be for the restaurant to collect all gratuities and divide it between all staff based on a % determined by calculations that include hours, sales, and quality maybe? That would involve trusting the employers though, and I'm skeptical enough to think it'd be abused more than anything.

My mother does taxes, and I know there's usually at least one discussion around tax season about a server she had come in that claims 15% of their wages towards the income tax. 15% of your wages is very different than 15% of your sales so she usually gets a little grumpy when it happens.

[Aksannyi]

Since these kind of things are relevant, yes he was black.

No one was going to say anything about this? The fuck.

[Vaspinne]

Though I'm not sure why you're 5% added up to 50% there.

Because 5% of the $100 check is $5 which was half the hypothetical $10 tip. The tip out is based on the sale amount, not the gratuity amount

[Vandalhart]

Because 5% of the $100 check is $5 which was half the hypothetical $10 tip. The tip out is based on the sale amount, not the gratuity amount

Ahh herp derp. Right. I should have picked up on that.

[dasva]

No one was going to say anything about this? The fuck.

Well I mean at least he didn't steal it....

My fail of the day is my fitness band seems to count "steps" while in sleep mode. When I'm actually sleeping not much a problem it doesn't get that many and I can always take it off. But I was hoping to use it make it not count when I know it will be counting erroneously like when I'm in a truck and it counts every bump in the road

[Tyrath]

No one was going to say anything about this? The fuck.

No, most of us don't get our jimmies rustled that easily.

[Anoat]

You might think it's awful racism but it's true, as a general rule blacks (and foreigners in general) don't tip. Sure, it does happen occasionally and those are pleasant surprises. But ask any server/delivery driver/bartender and they will tell you the same thing. Exception: they LOVE tipping at strip clubs.

[Charismatic]

Its true. I don't tip for shit.

[Krandor]

Yeah it's pretty racist but from all my personal experience it's very true.

Also, it's from Chappelle I think?

[kuronosan]

Do you tip your hairdresser? I could argue they deserve a better tip then a waitress/waiter. All they have to do is bring my food, which they didn't cook, or fill my water or bring the drink they didn't make.

I've heard places that allow restaurant goeers to tip the chefs rather then the waitress.

The only reason I feel bad was because it was Valentine's Day. And it was my buddies place of work.

Wow, fuck you to the extreme dude. If someone waits my table they get a tip. I rarely tip over if I ordered to go because they didn't wait a table but you don't tip people because they prepared your food you tip because they served it to you.

Fuck sake, man.

[Airenn]

I try not to judge all the time based on color - White people have actually been the biggest offenders of "shitty" tips, but other races just a standard "lower" rate hovering at about 15%. I've only gotten the 100% tip to bill ratio from whities though, has happened on occasion. I've only also had white people come BACK (as we were originally saying to Vagus) to give me a forgotten tip or if they didn't have the money.


If I have $1000 in sales for the night and make $150 in tips, I tip out 4% of the sales FROM my tips to other positions in the restaurant. So, $40 and I make $110.


Surprised ya'll really still debating it though - Minds don't usually get changed on this matter. Either people don't believe in it or they really need to justify not spending so much when they're out.


I tend to tip well because I work in the industry sure, but because a decent tip goes a long way in someone else's life, as does a bad one compared to society's "standards" on the issue. I like making people happy and short of taking every single person I meet into the alley for a blowie I do what I can where I can. Pleasantries, smiles, a little extra money. This world sucks guys, and for as much of the turrrrible Airenn you see here, I try to make a better experience in the day to day of it all. HAPPY TUESDAY BITCHES

[Tokitoki]

I tip my barber.

Cut costs $15, I give him $20.

[vagus]

Wow, fuck you to the extreme dude. If someone waits my table they get a tip. I rarely tip over if I ordered to go because they didn't wait a table but you don't tip people because they prepared your food you tip because they served it to you.

Fuck sake, man.

I never once said waiters shouldn't get tip. However when you're just doing an average job, I feel 10% is fair. 15-20% is when the waiter goes above and beyond is great.

As stated, in my province especially at this restraint. Waiters get paid above average and they get tips. Many don't claim there tip. As for the race card. that took a hard turn.

[TheDirtyHobo]

Just admit you are a cheap bitch and you got caught in it instead of back peddling like a priest caught with a 7 year old boy

Yep, you're right. I'm a cheap child-molesting bitch for tipping appropriately, if not overtipping, in every situation I've been in during my adult life because of my hypothetical choice to possibly undertip at a place in a higher price range than I've ever been to. I promise to cease my cheap ways and give the lady at the breakfast diner and appropriate percentage-based tip of $1.50 instead of a flat $5 next time I go there. But not the child-diddling, that part's staying.

[Zetanio]

I tip my barber.

Cut costs $15, I give him $20.

Yep. They just upped their price to 18 bucks at my barber and it's annoying having to carry an extra 3 bucks now. My problems are real.

[Melena]

Yep, you're right. I'm a cheap child-molesting bitch for tipping appropriately, if not overtipping, in every situation I've been in during my adult life because of my hypothetical choice to possibly undertip at a place in a higher price range than I've ever been to. I promise to cease my cheap ways and give the lady at the breakfast diner and appropriate percentage-based tip of $1.50 instead of a flat $5 next time I go there. But not the child-diddling, that part's staying.

Yes you are because of your own words, regardless of the bill it's 5-10 dollars. And to say you get the same level of service at Applebee's compared to Gordon Ramsey Steak in Vegas is laughable. You are a back peddling idiot who got caught, claimed you didn't say the exact words I quoted, and now throwing a temper tantrum over it like some 5 year old kid on the playground. Just admit you are a cheap fucking moron and remove yourself from the conversation so the adults can carry on. I mean, lying in first world problems thread is the ultimate fail.

[Tyrath]

Yep. They just upped their price to 18 bucks at my barber and it's annoying having to carry an extra 3 bucks now. My problems are real.

Pay with CC
Write in the amount
???
Profit

[Tokitoki]

I don't think I've ever been to a barber that takes cards.

[Tyrath]

Ive only been to one recently that doesn't lol