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    Do you want to just coast on things or actually have an active part and passion for it, that would be the difference for me. To be fair all the teachers I know to it because they love it not for any benefits be it personal or job related. I do think you have to decide which is more important to you.

    Personally the lack of accountability would make me fucking miserable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astylla View Post
    Do you want to just coast on things or actually have an active part and passion for it, that would be the difference for me. To be fair all the teachers I know to it because they love it not for any benefits be it personal or job related. I do think you have to decide which is more important to you.

    Personally the lack of accountability would make me fucking miserable.
    I think I would have passion no matter where I go. I've basically have worked at one of the top middle schools in the state, to working at one of the lowest public schools in the state. Neither changed my passion/drive. It's mostly having pretty good job security while dealing with craziness vs. sending my kids to an excellent school, but a lot more pressure to perform. We do live in an area where the public school that is assigned is good. But that's not excellent. And in order to stay in this area, we'd always have to rent, because of the housing costs.

    With that said, I have seen teacher kids at the private schools, and sometimes they respond well to it, and sometimes they are very bitter (either at the parents or at their classmates). Because they will be surrounded by rich kids with their mom having teacher's pay and not able to afford all the activities their friends are doing.

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    I'm not sure how your district is, but in our district we have a few people we can reach out to who are outside of the school. I can't remember her position, but she's basically the district-wide Language Arts head. That would be someone you could reach out to if you're having trouble with the administration. Or perhaps your union rep? I know most teachers are members of a union, and there's usually one union rep at the school. If you're not getting support from your administration, that could be something that you could do. I've heard horror stories about bad administrators before but I've never seen it at any of the schools I've been to.

    That's a really shitty situation either way. I don't know if you can take any of those avenues to at least reach out to someone who might be able to intercede. I wouldn't blame you one bit, but ultimately you're gonna have to decide if you want to stick it out and wait for things to change (doubtful), or wait for her to leave (probably also doubtful), or see if any outsiders might be able to step in somehow. It's especially hard because I know you just took that job this year, and no one wants to leave a job after one school year. I'd personally probably try to stay, to see if anything might change, while simultaneously looking elsewhere.

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    I was almost suspended one time for fighting off three kids. They started some shit by kicking the basketball I was retrieving from our (my friends and me) game during recess. Basically it went:

    Me: What the fuck?
    Kid #1: FUck you go get it bitch (shove)
    Me: No, fuck off. You go get it. (shove back)
    Kid #2 comes up behind me and grabs me.
    Kid #1 takes a swing at me
    I smash Kid #2 into the wall behind us, then shove kid #1 to the ground
    Kid #3 comes at me swinging and we get into a fist fight.

    My mom got me out of suspension because fuck that shit, I was ganged up on and they started the fight. Shitty thing was the school was trying to suspend only me and the other kids didn't get into any trouble. I guess that's what happens when you win a fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aksannyi View Post
    I'm not sure how your district is, but in our district we have a few people we can reach out to who are outside of the school. I can't remember her position, but she's basically the district-wide Language Arts head. That would be someone you could reach out to if you're having trouble with the administration. Or perhaps your union rep? I know most teachers are members of a union, and there's usually one union rep at the school. If you're not getting support from your administration, that could be something that you could do. I've heard horror stories about bad administrators before but I've never seen it at any of the schools I've been to.

    That's a really shitty situation either way. I don't know if you can take any of those avenues to at least reach out to someone who might be able to intercede. I wouldn't blame you one bit, but ultimately you're gonna have to decide if you want to stick it out and wait for things to change (doubtful), or wait for her to leave (probably also doubtful), or see if any outsiders might be able to step in somehow. It's especially hard because I know you just took that job this year, and no one wants to leave a job after one school year. I'd personally probably try to stay, to see if anything might change, while simultaneously looking elsewhere.
    It's a charter school, so no union. I will have to find out about district reps. We are under the LAUSD bubble, but I think mostly they just check in on us versus help us in anyway. Public school systems hate charters. I don't blame them.

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    At my job, I'm motivated to fix things. But I'm not getting compensated to go out of my way to do the fixing. It's an ebb and flow of frustration I'm facing. I just get back from vacation when I should be relaxed but in no less than a week I'm in a mountain of negative vibes. I posted this 2 days ago
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    My entire work division got fucked up the ass as far as annual "merit" increases go. I walk out of my performance review with stellar marks and get a 1% pay increase. Why bother trying when your free market corporation treats its employees like a communist sweat shop.
    I don't even want to put any effort to fix anything considering I worked my ass off for a pittance of a pay raise. I want things to fail so the higher ups can allocate resources to fix things. Best thing I can do in the short term is shut off my brain, be a drone, and emotionally disconnect myself from work. I already had a fight with my supervisor for a stupid request that we place a performance goal for this year that is impossible to reach and punishes for being sick or taking PTO. I'm always hovering around my max out and everyone says I need to take more time off.

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    It's hard to say what really happened... yeah kids will try to weasel out of trouble because well most kids do. On the other hand schools do fucked up shit too especially lately. Like my first detention was when I was in first grade because some girl tackled me from behind, knocked me down, sat on me and started hitting me cause everyone figures the super tiny kid is a pushover and she kept sucking at our schools admittedly rough recess game. Pushed her off and walked away thinking it's over. And later that day I find out that apparently I beat women and they are wondering where I learned it from. And the story of "abuse" was "backed up" by a yard duty who had been several hundred feet away with her back turned at the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    It's hard to say what really happened... yeah kids will try to weasel out of trouble because well most kids do. On the other hand schools do fucked up shit too especially lately. Like my first detention was when I was in first grade because some girl tackled me from behind, knocked me down, sat on me and started hitting me cause everyone figures the super tiny kid is a pushover and she kept sucking at our schools admittedly rough recess game. Pushed her off and walked away thinking it's over. And later that day I find out that apparently I beat women and they are wondering where I learned it from. And the story of "abuse" was "backed up" by a yard duty who had been several hundred feet away with her back turned at the time
    What the actual fuck..

    When I was in school it was called being a kid or roughousing , and usually so many teachers around it lasted a few minutes if that. Hell I was put through way worse in grade school and told to basically deal with it. While real bullying is an issue , there's nothing wrong with kids figuring their own shit out including defending themselves earlier than later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksandra View Post
    It's a charter school, so no union. I will have to find out about district reps. We are under the LAUSD bubble, but I think mostly they just check in on us versus help us in anyway. Public school systems hate charters. I don't blame them.
    Yeah, I'd see if there's someone higher up the food chain you could get in touch with. Given the teacher turnaround, I wouldn't doubt they'd agree something is amiss. And whether a potential replacement principal would be any better or not, I have no doubt there are people out there ambitious enough who'd like to try.

    My school had like 2 secretaries in the main office with about 450 students, give or take for a given year. Of course, it being private, the admissions section had its own little bunch. They also took things a bit further where one teacher usually handled kids 5-8 while another had 9-12. I had to deal with the latter when I outright refused to go to my English class senior year because the teacher was such a gigantic douchemonger, and once I explained the situation, I didn't even get into any kind of trouble for it. Nor did they involve my folks. So, yay there. I guess your guidance counselor would fill a somewhat similar role, but they might not be able to wave disciplinary action in the same way they did for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astylla View Post
    What the actual fuck..

    When I was in school it was called being a kid or roughousing , and usually so many teachers around it lasted a few minutes if that. Hell I was put through way worse in grade school and told to basically deal with it. While real bullying is an issue , there's nothing wrong with kids figuring their own shit out including defending themselves earlier than later.
    That's basically what I figured (hell I'd taken care of a lot worse already so didn't bother me much) and why I didn't go find someone to tell on her that... I learned that day that I should've just to get the first accusation in because counter accusations just don't work as well regardless of truth and evidence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooney View Post
    Bad management will kill the motivation of even the best employees. It's exactly why I left my last job after getting transferred to kickstart my department at a regional office.
    100% this.

    I have worked for the same company for 11 years. I absolutely loved my job, worked a ton of overtime (a lot unpaid) and was basically on-call for assistance at all times (again unpaid). We're a global company with ~400 employees in the US (1000+ worldwide) and I was easily in the Top 5-10 most impactful/hardest working employees for the company.

    Some very bad management in recent months killed my motivation and happiness at work. I now just put in my 40 hours and work to the bare minimum (which is about 20% of my old level)


    As for Ksandra's situation. Obviously different people react different ways but if you are a driven person who cares about their job (and it sounds like Ksandra is), then I would not recommend coasting for any prolonged period of time. I'm really driven and truly care about my job/people, just coasting for the last 4 months has made me miserable. It will probably affect your personality and personal life too after a while as I imagine it's hard to keep that sort of mentality confined to just work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokitoki View Post
    I was almost suspended one time for fighting off three kids. They started some shit by kicking the basketball I was retrieving from our (my friends and me) game during recess. Basically it went:

    Me: What the fuck?
    Kid #1: FUck you go get it bitch (shove)
    Me: No, fuck off. You go get it. (shove back)
    Kid #2 comes up behind me and grabs me.
    Kid #1 takes a swing at me
    I smash Kid #2 into the wall behind us, then shove kid #1 to the ground
    Kid #3 comes at me swinging and we get into a fist fight.

    My mom got me out of suspension because fuck that shit, I was ganged up on and they started the fight. Shitty thing was the school was trying to suspend only me and the other kids didn't get into any trouble. I guess that's what happens when you win a fight.

    That is okay. Kids don't know how to fight.

    Sounds like it was before 0 tolerance ship kids off to uninhabited islands policies we see now.



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    Hi.

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    i found my first white hair. i get the distinct sense this is not merely an outlier, but the beginning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaneTheBrawler View Post
    i found my first white hair. i get the distinct sense this is not merely an outlier, but the beginning.
    Then you can start messing with hair dyes that show just the perfect balance between stamina and experience.

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    By the way what happened to embedding? Is it just internal only now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaneTheBrawler View Post
    i found my first white hair. i get the distinct sense this is not merely an outlier, but the beginning.
    Get ready. It's like a new gradient every time you cut your hair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    It's hard to say what really happened... yeah kids will try to weasel out of trouble because well most kids do. On the other hand schools do fucked up shit too especially lately. Like my first detention was when I was in first grade because some girl tackled me from behind, knocked me down, sat on me and started hitting me cause everyone figures the super tiny kid is a pushover and she kept sucking at our schools admittedly rough recess game. Pushed her off and walked away thinking it's over. And later that day I find out that apparently I beat women and they are wondering where I learned it from. And the story of "abuse" was "backed up" by a yard duty who had been several hundred feet away with her back turned at the time
    I got lucky with my one fight with a girl. I recently transferred schools due to my parents moving, and at the time I was wearing braces on my legs cause Kaiser sucked, thought i'd outgrow the whole right leg and foot turning inward thing and put me in braces way too late to fix it. At an assembly a girl kept giving me shit and taunting me saying the only reason she wouldn't hit me is she doesn't fight cripples. I sucker punched her in the face, knocked her down like 3 rows of the auditorium benches but only got detention for a week as a teacher witnessed her taunting and heard the cripple comment.

    At least she and a few of the other kids who tormented me stopped calling me cripple. The flip side is they tried to get me expelled 1 month before graduating high school a few years later by telling a vice principal I was bringing guns to school and bragging about it after one of them jumped me and he got his nuts smashed in by my knee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaneTheBrawler View Post
    i found my first white hair. i get the distinct sense this is not merely an outlier, but the beginning.
    Hey now keep hope alive they could be outliers. My head for some reason over the last few years just likes to maintain a few pure white hairs next to the black but doesn't increase just looks weird and out of place

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicyryan View Post
    By the way what happened to embedding? Is it just internal only now?
    Requires https. Most of the time you can just put the s in yourself.


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