General WWE Discussion: Roman Weeps, Taker Retires, MNK/SAM/RDM LFP

[Tyrath]

This has been a really good match.

[Exoduso]

Shitty it ended in DQ, excellent matches from DB tonight... both this and the 6man with the Shield.
And it looks like Axel's theme song is fixed.

Also, Y2J is beyond annoying as a face. Almost as bad as Miz. Those two should just stay the hell away from babyface runs and remain heels forever.

[CrosisX]

If anyone can make Ryback look good its DB. CM punk or ziggler too but that point is moot right now.

[Exoduso]

Can Axel get an actual pinfall already (on someone who isn't BotchCara)?
Bleh. The kid sure can go though. And I'm starting to forget the horror that was "Michael McGillicutty"

[Clemz]

The few times I've seen him he's always been fairly good in the ring, he also apparently trained with Lesnar and Rock in their recent runs, so someone that those two feel is worth training with has to be pretty darn good.

Also count outs in No DQs are beyond stupid, give the kid a legit win, push him to the sky.

[Kalmado]

I honestly didn't know there were count outs in no dq matches. Learn something knew every day!

[Exoduso]

I honestly didn't know there were count outs in no dq matches. Learn something knew every day!

There aren't, but WWE seem to enjoy making up shit as they go along so it fits their goals.

[ringthree]

There aren't, but WWE seem to enjoy making up shit as they go along so it fits their goals.

You act like this is new. WWE basically believes that they are wrestling. And honestly, it's not far from the truth.

[Tyrath]

Honestly, whats the big problem with a scripted "sports" show changing the rules as they are needed to further storylines? lol

[ringthree]

Honestly, whats the big problem with a scripted "sports" show changing the rules as they are needed to further storylines? lol

For those that respect the history of wrestling and enjoyed when the WWF had legitimate competition from other organizations, it can be disconcerting. The PG era is not good for storylines or the traditions of wrestling.

[Tyrath]

Sounds like a bunch of "back in my day" mumbo jumbo to me.

Things change, and not all change is bad.

[Xno Kappa]

While I agree with your statement, count-outs in a No DQ match are still retarded as hell lol.

[Xno Kappa]

Not really arguing whether or not they're two separate stipulations. It's just retarded not to always do both. Count-outs in a No DQ match will probably always end up being used as some lame cop-out, might as well not make it a No DQ match to begin with.

[noblemountain]

c'mon guys, it is rules in wrestling. this shit has always happened. they always have and always will change rules for story purposes. you are looking way too hard to find something to hate.

shoulda been watching wrestling in the 80's with me when a double countout was a normal main event finish

[ringthree]

Sounds like a bunch of "back in my day" mumbo jumbo to me.

Things change, and not all change is bad.

The PG-era sucks. Sorry, it just sucks. It's not a back-in-the-day thing, because I remember when I hated WWF post-Hogan/Andre the Giant feud.

You are right, things changes, and not all change is bad, but this change is bad, and you are bad for liking it.

[Tyrath]

This his literally nothing to do with the PG era.

And nowhere did I say that I liked this change. I just don't think it matters.

[Trichocyst]

Getting counted out in a no DQ match is almost as bad as the late 90's WCW product where you would often get counted out in a falls count anywhere match or DQ'd in a no DQ match or get pinned in a first blood match.

[Tyrath]

Jesus christ, just because all of you have your own definitions of matches in your head doesn't mean they did something wrong.

The key differences between a No Disqualification match and a standard hardcore match are that falls must be made in the ring, there is less emphasis on the use of weapons, and often the Count-Out rule is still in effect for No Disqualification matches.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profess...fication_match

[Clemz]

Yeah it's nothing new, and they're different match types, not the first time it's been done and certainly won't be the last. I just think count outs in No DQs are dumb.

[Anoat]

I think the only time I was bothered by rule changes was when the WWE relaunched ECW and suddenly there were count outs and DQs and it became immediately apparent that this was not going to be ECW.