General WWE Discussion: Roman Weeps, Taker Retires, MNK/SAM/RDM LFP

[Melena]

WWE has just never been good with handling big men since the hogan era. I mean they had Vader, arguably one of the best big men of all time when he was in WCW and they couldn't even use him right. And while Albert isn't as good as Vader, he's better then Viscera and 99% of the other big men the E has had.

[arus2001]

While I'll just overall say the Tensai gimmick sucks, I'd like to go on further and propose an oversaturation of non-American "culture" just tends to be poorly received in general by the fans. Personally, I don't tune in to listen to people babble in Spanish or some fat white guy pretend to be JP.

[Kalmado]

I don't know of this Viscera, I only know of Mabel :D

I agree about the usage of the big man. Not sure if this would fall into place with "big men", but during the time I didn't have access to cable tv on a regular basis, I would catch occasional monday night raw episodes when Scott Steiner and HHH were fueding. Also, Chris Masterson. Man....I really need to get un-lazy and download or watch on youtube the episodes of ecw and wcw invading and what not.

[Lucavi]

My big nigga Henry is out for the summer? No wonder they didn't go anywhere with that AW plotline they were hinting at.

I seriously don't know why WWE can't handle big men. Just have fucking Ryback and Kain go at it and see what happens. It cannot be that hard. The big guys are getting better at the mic, so just let them have a little fun with it. Either the kid's'll love em or they'll be terrified by them. Either way, ticket sales.

[Forewarned]

Rumours are that its gonna be Punk vs Show at Summerslam... Not exactly a dream match.

[Makwa]

I really don't wanna see that match during Summerslam. I hope it stays a rumor, or Vince builds it up to a SWERVE the RAW before it.

[NynJa]

God pls no show vs punk...that would be so fuckin boring

[Xno Kappa]

Big show is fucking boring to begin with. I swear I've seen this heel angle with him a shit load of times.

[Melena]

Show isn't that bad with the right person to carry him, but he is getting old and I believe he's mentioned he's only got a year or two left in the tank, and we all know how Vince loves to reward those who are nearing retirement. I just wish they did more with his feud with Cody. Was the first time i've been legitimately into Show since Big Boss Man hooked his car up to Show's dad's casket and sped off lol.

[Trigun]

Show barely has any range as far as character goes, and his physical ability has even less. He's just a giant that people have to overcome. The only person that could carry Big Show literally and literally was Lesnar and all that got Lesnar was a bad back and addiction to vodka and vicodin (I think that was the drug).

Undertaker changed his style up here and there added new things to his repertoire. He's kept up with the times thats why people love him and the ones who don't can bear him.

Cody is on fire, the rumor is though he got in trouble with the marijuana. That's why he's dropped the title to Christian and hasn't wrestled since.

Going back to the styles thing, I'm very interested to see how Kane/Bryan/Punk do in this coming match. Probly be alot of big spots, it has a lot of potential to be great.

edit: found the .pdf of Lesnar's book.

Spoiler: show

I had met Show when I was still in Louisville, and we
didn’t exactly hit it off right away. He pissed Vince or
someone off because he was not in shape, and they sent him
down to the developmental squad as a punishment. He was
a giant of a man, seven feet tall and five-hundred-plus
pounds, but Vince wanted his wrestlers to “look good.” No
one pays to see a couple of fat guys roll around the mat.
So I first met Show when I was in Louisville to learn the
business, and I was taking everything seriously. I wanted to
get called up to the main roster and the bigger paydays as
soon as I could. When Show got demoted to Louisville, he
looked at the guys training there like everyone was a maggot
or something. He was all grumpy right from the get-go
because he had to lose some weight, and everyone in camp
was afraid of him. Everyone but me.

I wasn’t afraid of Show, even if he did have almost a
foot and two-hundred-some pounds on me, and I let him
know it one day. We were in practice, and we got into the
ring. He thought I was just another dumb jock greenhorn
who was going to be intimidated by him, but I dropped him
to the mat with a double leg takedown, and he was crying
uncle. I kept the pressure on him because I didn’t like the
way he thought he was so much better than all the guys
down there. I earned his respect that day, and I had no
problem doing it either.

Another day, he was bullying everyone around, and I
decided to bully him back. He got mad at me and told me,
“I’ll be back up in the main events, making millions, and
you’ll still be down here in Louisville setting up the ring.”
When I got to the big time, I decided to remind Show of
our little incidents in Louisville. As soon as I had to work
with Show, I waited until the time was right and I said,
“Remember down in Louisville, when you said—”
He cut me right off there and said, “I know where you
are going with this, and fuck you!”

I still tortured the big bastard . . . and while I was doing
it, I taunted him a little more. “Hey, didn’t I take you down
in front of everyone, too?” I laughed. But I like Show,
because he turned out to be one of the best people you
could ever be around.

Hell, he cried when I told everyone I was going to leave
WWE. He’s just a super nice, sentimental guy, and he’s
trapped in that massive body. That can’t be easy. I know
when I was three hundred pounds of muscle, it was hard to
carry all that weight around. Imagine adding two hundred
pounds of not-so-lean mass on top of that, and nine or ten
more inches in height?

...
...
...

Right before our match, Show came over to where I
was dressing, smoking a cigarette. That alone is funny,
because a cigarette in that huge hand looks like a cutoff
toothpick. I hate cigarettes, and he had to know that. After I
made him put the damn thing out, he said, “Let’s change the
match around tonight.”

We’re as far away from home as we can be. We might
as well be on the planet Mars. We knew the match. It was
easy. Why change it? Show got all upset with me, and he
kept saying over and over again, “I’m a veteran, I’m the
heel, I get to call the match!”
I couldn’t believe he was serious. OK, we were all
dealing with the stress from traveling halfway around the
world. Bad news for Show, though. I wasn’t in the mood
for his shit that night.
“Whatever you wanna do is fine with me,” I told the big
grump, “just call it out in the ring.”

So here’s this seven-foot-tall, five-hundred-pound giant,
and he’s mumbling to himself as he walks away from me.
It’s so funny when I think about it now, because Show is the
most likeable guy you’ll ever meet, but he had me ready to
kick his ass over in, of all places, South Africa!
Show was all huffy and puffy going out the ring,
determined to call the match the way he wanted it to go, but
as soon as I hit the ring, I snatched him and started
suplexing him all over the place. Show backed me into a
corner, and was going for a big chop across my chest, but I
ducked under and waist-locked him. Once my hands were
clasped, he had a pretty good idea about what was coming
next. I was going to pivot my hips and throw him anywhere
I wanted him to go. Show started screaming at me, “No no
no no no no no no no,” but I didn’t listen. I threw him
across the ring, and I can still hear the thud he made when
he landed!

Before he could get up, I ran across the ring, grabbed
him, and locked my hands around him again. He started
panicking: “Brock, what the hell are you doing? Wait wait
wait wait wait wait wait!” So I flung him around a few more
times. He learned his lesson.

[Melena]

Brock really didn't take shit from anyone. Remember he also broke Hardcore Holly's neck when Holly was stiffing him in a match, so not surprised at all by this. As for Cody from what the dirt sheets said, he actually tested positive for something but he was able to provide an actual valid prescription for it, so they wound up not suspending him. As far as the wellness policy goes, it's just a 2500 fine for weed, no suspension, which is why they are pissed at Randy. Supposedly he smoked a joint to cover up the steroids in his system.

[Doombear]

As silly as that all was, I quite enjoyed that Cena - Tensai - Cole nonsense.

[Makwa]

meh. was a better RAW than weeks before, at least.

[Trichocyst]

I flip around until the Punk/Bryan/AJ segment, sigh that Kane is there, don't even watch the match. Wrestling is kind of boring to me right now.

[BadKarma]

Cena was amazing last night. Bravo

[Mjd]

Cena was amazing last night. Bravo

King was annoying as fuck during it though. Bravo to Cole for being the man during that.

omfg that pin
http://youtu.be/bv8X8OGPMSU?t=2m31s

[Kalmado]

Yeah I was thrilled with the Cena/Cole portion. Very disappointed with Ryback match. I know many of you all enjoy the Punk/Bryan stuff but I personally do not. I think Bryan, or as my wife and I like to call him "The billygoat", has had his time with the heavyweight/wwe championship belts and it's time to let someone else in.

[BadKarma]

Yeah I was thrilled with the Cena/Cole portion. Very disappointed with Ryback match. I know many of you all enjoy the Punk/Bryan stuff but I personally do not. I think Bryan, or as my wife and I like to call him "The billygoat", has had his time with the heavyweight/wwe championship belts and it's time to let someone else in.

[Kalmado]

oh you

[Trichocyst]

Just let us have this feud for the title, and you guys can have the feud for the big gold belt! Really, the attention that they're giving this feud feels more like an early 90's intercontinental title feud. Two smaller guys with a varying charisma who can work their asses off, but getting overshadowed by larger talent.