General WWE Discussion: Roman Weeps, Taker Retires, MNK/SAM/RDM LFP

[Krandor]

Rhyno's arms bother me. He's huge everywhere except for his tiny fucking forearms, makes him look like a T Rex or something.

[Lyall]

I like Zayn, but 1) That fucking hat and 2) most of his ringwork I've seen him do in NXT has been sell-sell-sell-sell-helluva kick-sell-be pinned.

I'm slowly working my way backwards in time with the network, though.

[Kalmado]

I find that kick dumb as all can be as well. He's got a lot of charisma and is great at selling, but compared to Balor, Owens, Neville, Breeze, Itami, and main roster guys I feel like it's not enough. But that's from the point of view that I want to see a great wrestler perform at the highest level. From WWE's point, they see a guy that connects with the crowd, has great heart (could Graves and the other guy say it enough times?!), and will probably sell a good amount of merch.

[Krandor]

The kick is a dumb finisher, but it's a side effect of the finisher he used for nearly a decade being unusable in the WWE. Also the thought of Michael Cole faking enthusiasm when he shouts "BRAINBUSTAH" just made me cringe.

[Delirium]

A lot of the NXT guys have finisher problems. Balor can't use bloody sunday, I guess Itami is going to start using GTS maybe?, Owens cant use the package piledriver, etc.

With how often guys kick out of finishing moves now, they really have lost their luster anyway.

[Melena]

I just watched a couple videos of Owens doing the package piledriver, it looks honestly more like a powerbomb. As far as piledrivers go, only one that could be any safer is Taker's tombstone. Balor's bloody sunday though looks sick, I can see why they wouldn't let that one be used.

[Kalmado]

I just watched the video below and I can easily see why he's loved. I'd think the pumphandle orange crush could easily be a finisher. The turnbuckle brainbuster too. Is that one really too dangerous? That half & half suplex to me looks dangerous as all can be.

[Krandor]

The "true" BRAINBUSTAAAAAAAAAH (the turnbuckle variation) is a fairly dangerous move. You can see in that video that almost everyone who takes it comes down fairly awkwardly. Even if the initial hit isn't that bad, there's alot that can go wrong when the person has to come back down.

Neville has had a good chunk of his offense taken away from his PAC days as well. I still don't think he's done the imploding 450 or his 630 senton since he joined WWE, and he's only done the poisoned hurricanrana a few times, and I think only to Zayn.

[tyven]

This is why I don't understand the love for Daniel Bryan, admittedly i've only been watching for a few months but I've never seen him do anything but some head kicks and a flying knee. Shit's boring to me.

[Krandor]

It's unfortunately the way WWE packages their product. They want everything to be in the easiest to digest form possible, so most wrestlers get limited to a few specific moves. It's a criticism generally leveled at Cena and his 5 moves of doom, but it's something that applies across the entire brand.

[Tyrath]

This is why I don't understand the love for Daniel Bryan, admittedly i've only been watching for a few months but I've never seen him do anything but some head kicks and a flying knee. Shit's boring to me.

Thats on WWE for limiting him.

But even with the WWE shackles he has created a fun character. I've been huge on him since the days of Team Hell No. He is just an entertaining man.

[Trigun]

D-Bry has been around forever (theres pics of him backstage working with WWF during the Attitude Era).
His mainstream love/respect was earned on this night.


As far as last nights NXT I have to watch it again but Solomon is really disappointing me.
Also female Scott Steiner is hot.

[Kalmado]

The "true" BRAINBUSTAAAAAAAAAH (the turnbuckle variation) is a fairly dangerous move. You can see in that video that almost everyone who takes it comes down fairly awkwardly. Even if the initial hit isn't that bad, there's alot that can go wrong when the person has to come back down.

Neville has had a good chunk of his offense taken away from his PAC days as well. I still don't think he's done the imploding 450 or his 630 senton since he joined WWE, and he's only done the poisoned hurricanrana a few times, and I think only to Zayn.

That Dragonrana! Yeah after watching the video, it's my opinion Neville as PAC is incredibly fun to watch and may be the most entertaining out of the current top guys in NXT.

[Delirium]

This is why I don't understand the love for Daniel Bryan, admittedly i've only been watching for a few months but I've never seen him do anything but some head kicks and a flying knee. Shit's boring to me.

Look up his Ring of Honor and Japan work.

[Doombear]

I agree that Bryan has only gotten more stale as of late, and sadly it is very likely not at all up to him. Occasionally you will see him bust out some actual wrestling, like the past few matches with Ziggles. A lot of my respect and interest in people like Bryan and Ambrose, Balor and Owens come from watching them before they were in WWE when they were much less restricted. It sucks, knowing what they are capable of, and knowing you won't be seeing that stuff from them any longer. At the same time I am also happy to see them get more recognition. Its a tough trade off...

[Trigun]

Bryan really didn't want to get surgery so his injury is acting up.
They sent him home early from the Europe tour. (which is good because they wanted to do Cena v Bryan this early)
Everything up until WM30 for Bryan was awesome. Ortons best work has been the year leading up to that and now getting better with age.
As far as guys like Pac, Zayn, and Ambrose getting watered down, real wrestlers usually save the great stuff for way down the line.

[tyven]

That Dragonrana! Yeah after watching the video, it's my opinion Neville as PAC is incredibly fun to watch and may be the most entertaining out of the current top guys in NXT.

omg this was the most amazing thing i have ever seen and i've seen kanye west in concert

[Krandor]

It's funny how many of those shots are against El Generico/Zayn

[Kalmado]

It's funny how many of those shots are against El Generico/Zayn

I was thinking the same. A few against Steen too.

[Tyrath]

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/5719...-vs-alex-riley

/popcorn