The Prenatal Holocaust

[Sera]

On topic

[BaneTheBrawler]

laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawl

[Tajin]

a) Well if that's the issue, we may as well have limits of 1-2 children per family.
b)Or we can just kill them after they're born, if no one wants to adopt them.

a) There's this thing called common sense but it seems to come and go like comet Halley
b) Should begin by giving a home/killing the millions already in orphanages/streets/prostitution rings/slavery

[Demosthenes11]

I like to think that the soul inhabits the body when it passes through the v-jay-jay

So killing the shell before it's ready for the soul is basically like crushing a soda cup before you put the soda in it.

Soul's the important thing here, fuck all that other bullshit.

I think that's why we can't remember anything from being in the womb or being born cause were not really there. I know when i'm in a vajina now adays, i sure as fuck don't remember anything else.

How do I like to talk about a subject that is very subjective and already has a fuckton of gray area? I like to inject a totally made up concept (soul), try to make it a concrete idea, and then make it the focal point of the discussion.

Wait no, fuck you

[Tajin]

Not sure if whoosh or trolling the troll <_<

[Demosthenes11]

based on his past posts, he is not on the honor's system

[Moosey]

How do I like to talk about a subject that is very subjective and already has a fuckton of gray area? I like to inject a totally made up concept (soul), try to make it a concrete idea, and then make it the focal point of the discussion.

Wait no, fuck you

Where is the subjective gray area? Killing an under-developed human is murder. Seems pretty simple to me. Also, how do you know that souls don't exist?

[Demosthenes11]

Also, how do you know that souls don't exist?

Because there exist no peer-reviewed, empirical evidence of them.

You know, science n shit

[Indeed]

Personally, I fully support limiting the number of children one can have and restricting who is allowed to procreate -- even if that means that I personally fall into the group that isn't allowed to procreate. There is a point where you have to consider the fact that creating more people actually does affect everyone else in a real way. It's not something that can be shrugged off forever. With the population of the world continuing to grow exponentially, at some point, we will have to cull the population. We can either let shit get totally fucking out of hand because it's somehow more acceptable in the eyes of God and moralists to die of starvation, exposure, war, whatever.; or we can accept the responsibility of limiting ourselves in the very same way that we regulate other populations on earth to prevent them from destroying habitats and other species. It's really that simple. Everything on earth isn't infinite, but our ability to fuck and conceive is. At some point, we will answer for that.

[chiyio]

The same way I'm pretty sure there's no teacup anywhere in charge of anything, because there is zero evidence for it. See unicorns, dragons, the lepricons, etc

Though I'm starting to believe in trolls

Sent from my DROID3 using Tapatalk

[Niiro]

You say that like the former hasn't been happening for a good long time now.

(@ Indeed)

[Moosey]

The same way I'm pretty sure there's no teacup anywhere in charge of anything, because there is zero evidence for it. See unicorns, dragons, the lepricons, etc

Though I'm starting to believe in trolls

Sent from my DROID3 using Tapatalk

Because there exist no peer-reviewed, empirical evidence of them.

You know, science n shit

Absence of evidence does not equal evidence of absence.

[Indeed]

You say that like the former hasn't been happening for a good long time now.

(@ Indeed)

I've only heard of it happening in China, and their restrictions only apply to something like a third of the population. I honestly think that eventually, we will reach a point where more places are going to have to adopt policies like this. We can't all indulge like the Duggars and expect nothing to come of it.

[Pirian]

Absence of evidence does not equal evidence of absence.

I also can't prove there isn't a teapot orbiting Saturn

[Komm Suesser Tod]

Where is the subjective gray area? Killing an under-developed human is murder. Seems pretty simple to me. Also, how do you know that souls don't exist?

Ok, just, like, leave. No one really seems to agree with you, and you're not going to convince anyone. Just go find somewhere else that is more receptive to your ideas, because this is only wasting your time.

On another note, I've only been involved in one abortion in my life directly, and it cost about $500, so it's hardly practical. A condom is a lot cheaper, and although there are those that ignore the risks and don't use contraception of any kind, or use it improperly, I think if we as a society made a greater effort to educate young people about sex and proper sexual health topics, and made contraception easier to obtain, we could lower the number of abortions necessary, and lower the number of children in orphanages and foster care, as well as help end the cycle of shitty childhood because your parents didn't want you and then you become a shitty adult.

Wait, people who are against abortion also tend to be against proper sexual education and contraception?

Well damn...

[Tajin]

Condoms are hard to get? news to me.

Edit:
It think right now there is enough material for anyone to know about proper sexual education, there is an over exposure of sexual stuff in the media sure, but there is enough material in civilized areas, its people that is lazy.

And of course, can't do shit about secluded tribes/villages/etc, but then again those places seem to control their population better than the 'civilized' world.

[Demosthenes11]

Absence of evidence does not equal evidence of absence.

how do you know there are no 9 foot tall 8 armed people?

I'm being serious.

[Rhyis.]

Condoms are hard to get? news to me.

Only if you acquire the lamb intestine the fun way.

[BaneTheBrawler]

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. For all we know there's a giant invisible spaghetti monster floating above the north pole with a noodle attached to the back of our heads, guiding us through life... but it can only be observed through the Flibbity-flobbity-floo-iscope, which sees in the spaghetti-spectrum. Which obviously doesn't exist yet.

Not really interested in a full-on religious debate right now, but just thought I'd point out that humanity's ability to observe our surroundings has been expanding constantly throughout the ages; I see no reason why a several-thousand-year-old trend should suddenly stop.

edit aaaah yeh beat meh.

Also, how do YOU know there aren't 9 foot tall 8 armed people? because I am aware of no such thing, and am curious as to your certainty that they do not exist. Have you searched every planet? Do you know all that there is to know? If so, I congratulate you on travelling to the 10th dimension, and beg you to choose a reality that no longer has Crohn's and in which I am a genius billionaire.

[Niiro]

I've only heard of it happening in China, and their restrictions only apply to something like a third of the population. I honestly think that eventually, we will reach a point where more places are going to have to adopt policies like this. We can't all indulge like the Duggars and expect nothing to come of it.

I was referring to this.

We can either let shit get totally fucking out of hand because it's somehow more acceptable in the eyes of God and moralists to die of starvation, exposure, war, whatever....