The Prenatal Holocaust

[Demosthenes11]

Did you forget about adoption? Your last 2 paragraphs seem to ignore that option.

what happens when you adopt? Guy does nothing. Woman carries a baby to full term.

SO FAIR

[Alarial]

Did you forget about adoption? Your last 2 paragraphs seem to ignore that option.

I love people who completely disregard the cost, pain, and medical complications that come with giving birth. It's FAR safer for the mother (and less expensive) to get an abortion.

[Eurell]

what happens when you adopt? Guy does nothing. Woman carries a baby to full term.

SO FAIR

Has absolutely nothing to do with the statements I just addressed.

[Eurell]

I love people who completely disregard the cost, pain, and medical complications that come with giving birth. It's FAR safer for the mother (and less expensive) to get an abortion.

Did you read what I was referring to?

[Demosthenes11]

Has absolutely nothing to do with the statements I just addressed.

oh, so you are the guy that asks questions completely without context of the discussion.

Thanks for the input dude. Did I forget to dot an i too?

[Churchill]

So I think Demo has come back around to not having a penis because it was taken from him.

Reminds me of Mac and Dennis picking up chicks at a pro choice rally, then at a pro life rally.

[hey]

A woman can "shed" her responsibility by getting an abortion?

Yes, she can.

Abortion is not a viable option for millions of women, whether because of morals or discomfort with the idea. This does not make it their fault a child is being brought into the world.

Wait, what? Yes it does.

[Demosthenes11]

Wait, what? Yes it does.

the "fault" lies in having sex, not refusing to get an abortion.

[Eurell]

oh, so you are the guy that asks questions completely without context of the discussion.

Thanks for the input dude. Did I forget to dot an i too?

Because dotting an i and Two thirds of your post completely ignoring another viable option are the same thing.

[hey]

the "fault" lies in having sex, not refusing to get an abortion.

Pretty sure it's both, but ok.

[Demosthenes11]

Because dotting an i and Two thirds of your post completely ignoring another viable option are the same thing.

except it's irrelevant. It's still an option that's responsibility is solely weighted toward the female.

[Demosthenes11]

Pretty sure it's both, but ok.

don't be obtuse. A destination is the cause of an action, not inaction. You died in a car accident because you turned right, not because you didn't turn left.

[Eurell]

except it's irrelevant. It's still an option that's responsibility is solely weighted toward the female.

How does the father not have any weight in the adoption decision? Some men actually do fight for custody of their children, especially if the mother doesn't want it.

[archibaldcrane]

It's still an option that's responsibility is solely weighted toward the female.

wut

women can't just put babies up for adoption without the father's consent.

[Demosthenes11]

wut

women can't just put babies up for adoption without the father's consent.

you're right, I didn't take into account the work of writing your signature -.-

[archibaldcrane]

You implied it was a mother's sole responsibility, don't act like i'm picking nits here.

[Demosthenes11]

You implied it was a mother's sole responsibility, don't act like i'm picking nits here.

it is picking nits though. A woman has to go through 9 months of pregnancy, birth the child, get over the emotional anguish of letting go of your child which you just pushed out of your vagina after you fed it for almost a year, and sign some papers. A man has to sign some papers.

I mean, maybe responsibility isn't the right word, but regardless...

[Eurell]

This just in, no fathers have emotions or want to keep their kids ever.

[Demosthenes11]

This just in, no fathers have emotions or want to keep their kids ever.

that's a separate discussion. we are talking about women that choose to keep a baby against the fathers wishes and whether he should be financially responsible.

[Pirian]

that's a separate discussion. we are talking about women that choose to keep a baby against the fathers wishes and whether he should be financially responsible.

So then what if the father wishes to keep the baby but the mother doesn't? Should the mother be required to pay the child payments to the father for the non-existent baby in lieu of having an abortion, because that is what the father would have had to do if she kept the baby and he didn't want it? Certainly not. If a woman wants to keep the child and the father does not want to be a part of it, then that is fine, but she needs to make that decision while aware of the financial responsibility she is taking on. You're saying that this decision for men happens every time they have sex, and that just isn't right. You're also saying that it is OK that this double-standard exist simply because the woman has to go through the 9 month pregnancy if she so chooses to keep it, which also just isn't right.