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    Quote Originally Posted by Valisk View Post
    So you make this big argument about me not reading the OP, but then you go and say the cop walked into his backyard drawing a weapon.

    Iron much?
    haha oh wow you're really serious, I love this place

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeryhn View Post
    And Obama is president but everything that's been wrong with the country for the past fifty years is his fault. Recognize a sweeping generalization when you see one?

    Many of those questions you listed aren't absurd, actually. With the cop in the mood that he was obviously in at the time, especially granted the lack of empathy for his actions after the fact, if he had taken aim at the man over the dog, every single one of those questions would be relevant. Would you be any more or less outraged if he had shot the guy instead of the dog?

    Cop had an itchy trigger finger. He fucked up. Cops that fuck up should be held responsible for their fuck ups. Deal with it.
    Ah, I was waiting for the 'what if?' scenarios and the complete irrelevance they have to the shooting of the dog in this case.

    The questions are fucking absurd because packing rubber bullets going into a potential DV scenario isn't standard procedure, judging a dog by the breed is astoundingly shortsighted, the 'justice that must be served' completely leaves out a split second decision making, tasers are hard to fire on moving targets especially when your weapon is already drawn and waiting too long to act could be your ass.

    If you want to make the argument that the cop is a prick for not being empathic to the homeowner after shooting his dog then fine I agree with that much but the silliness of some responses in this thread do border on hilarity. Apparently if you don't have RoboCop reflexes, haven't memorized the natures of dog breeds and don't wait until the 11th hour to take action then you're a terrible cop and your family should be executed.

    But it's all good, everyone on BG took their classes on how to be RoboCop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valisk View Post
    You can see from the video the cop drawing his weapon as hit walks up to the house (and out of the frame). So all you've told me is you don't know the definition of backpedaling but I'm the mentally disabled/retarded one? How about you stop hurling insults and think before you speak. Regardless of how YOU felt the cop should have reacted, we have testimony from 3 cops in this thread and the Austin Police Department confirming that having a weapon drawn was not excessive and a large portion of the time procedure.

    Just because a person saw pepper spray and a taser, doesn't mean he gets to dictate and choose what the officer can have in his hand. I read the OP. Read it before you thought it was a good idea to start throwing around insults. Nothing has changed. Now turn around and sit up straight. We'll come get you from the kiddie table when we're done.

    Still mouthbreathing all kinds of wrong then are we? I don't know how you just managed to admit you're wrong but pretend you're right. Also, the "cops in this thread" have said a lot of shit you're ignoring. You're not a cop, stop speaking for them. When I was on boarding teams for the US Navy boarding suspected smugglers ships we had shotguns, pistols, and semi-automatics. I know what it's like to be in danger and know when and what excessive force is. Responding to a domestic disturbance without your gun drawn, and then drawing it on the suspect without questioning is bad procedure. You sounds dumb son, stop trying to pick your argument via posts of 2 BG cops, who have also spoken against what you're saying they have said while depicting various situations. Once again, you aren't a cop so stop pretending.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MF Perm tha Fineass View Post
    Still mouthbreathing all kinds of wrong then are we? I don't know how you just managed to admit you're wrong but pretend you're right. Also, the "cops in this thread" have said a lot of shit you're ignoring. You're not a cop, stop speaking for them. When I was on boarding teams for the US Navy boarding suspected smugglers ships we had shotguns, pistols, and semi-automatics. I know what it's like to be in danger and know when and what excessive force is. Responding to a domestic disturbance without your gun drawn, and then drawing it on the suspect without questioning is bad procedure. You sounds dumb son, stop trying to pick your argument via posts of 2 BG cops, who have also spoken against what you're saying they have said while depicting various situations. Once again, you aren't a cop so stop pretending.

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    They've spoken against what? Both have said they would approach a DV situation with a gun drawn. Acknowledged. Both have said they wouldn't have shot the dog. Also acknowledged. The police department said his actions were justified and I agree, some disagree. I don't have a problem with two sides of an argument. I have a problem with people comparing the dog to kids with skittles, poodles, and those coming in swinging insults instead of an objective opinion. What are you confused about? I can bring pictures and crayons if you think they will help. Yea, I like to iron too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valisk View Post
    They've spoken against what? Both have said they would approach a DV situation with a gun drawn. Acknowledged. Both have said they wouldn't have shot the dog. Also acknowledged. The police department said his actions were justified and I agree, some disagree. I don't have a problem with two sides of an argument. I have a problem with people comparing the dog to kids with skittles, poodles, and those coming in swinging insults instead of an objective opinion. What are you confused about? I can bring pictures and crayons if you think they will help. Yea, I like to iron too.
    Listen Vandole Jr. the 3rd, if you're going to keep wasting my time lobbing up softballs I'm gonna get bored real quick. Don't get so excited at my posts you start super-skimming all the posts to big up that internet pride. You don't have a problem with anyone comparing anything, you have a problem with parking your ego behind half-baked attempts at hiding behind someone else's post. You haven't validated a single opinion of yours outside of picking and choosing what another poster said.

    Have you ever been in a situation like this? Have you ever handled a weapon? Let me help you: No. You're a little pussy hiding behind a computer trying to sound tough hanging from some other posters nuts. I've put people down with mace in a situation 10x more dangerous than the one discussed, while armed with a shotgun and pistol. I think it's bullshit what the police officer did as other cops, all over the country, show up to the exact same situation with a taser drawn or simply prepared to draw as opposed to drawing on someone at the wrong address. The cop was wrong on several levels, ultimately ending up in the killing of the dog.

    So please, amaze me with your experiences in stressful or life-threatening situations and explain how you have handled them.

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    Um ...perm, I think valisk is a cop in real life.

    A jughead vs popo retard fight is still very entertaining so please carry on.

    I cant wait for when you two post your uniforms to prove you two are badass police and military pukes.

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    Bullshit he's a cop. If he said he is he's lying unless he posts proof.

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    Anyways, if I can mace and ziptie a guy going for a submachine gun without killing anyone I can be pretty god damn sure any cop or cop defending shooting a dog that barked is a legit pussy. Try actually doing something for your country besides hiding behind a badge. Especially if you're not even going to make sure you're at the right address.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MF Perm tha Fineass View Post
    Anyways, if I can mace and ziptie a guy going for a submachine gun without killing anyone I can be pretty god damn sure any cop or cop defending shooting a dog that barked is a legit pussy. Try actually doing something for your country besides hiding behind a badge. Especially if you're not even going to make sure you're at the right address.
    To be fair, we already know this officer is a complete ass. Plus its texas, chances are its an ass backwards retard cop who barely passed high school.

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    And now for something different:

    http://www.wpix.com/news/wpix-office...,2795580.story

    Plenty of cop "beat downs" can be found online, but how often does the officer who stops others from handing out the beating get fired for it? That's exactly what's happening to Officer Regina Tasca in the Bogota Police Department.

    Tasca's dashboard camera captured her as she attempted to stop two officers from beating an emotionally disturbed young man. Just days after the incident, she was told she was being suspended with pay. A year later, her trial is about to begin as the Bogota PD seeks to fire her.

    In Bogota, officers control whether or not their dashboard camera rolls. Fortunately, when Officer Tasca responded to a call in April 2011, she clicked her unit "on." The black-and-white tape captures it all--a mother, Tara, screaming for police to stop punching her son on their front lawn. She had called to have her emotionally disturbed son Kyle taken to the hospital. Bogota police responded while waiting for the ambulance. Tasca was the sole officer on the road that day, so she called for back-up according to protocol. Ridgefield Park police then sent two officers. Tasca had just completed her state-mandated training for working with emotionally disturbed citizens.

    Tasca described what we see on the videotape: "The Ridgefield Park officer automatically charges and takes him down to the ground. I was quite shocked. As he's doing that, another Ridgefield Park officer flies to the scene in his car, jumps out and starts punching him in the head."

    On the tape you can hear Tara, the mother, and Kyle, her son, screaming, "Why are you punching him?" and "Stop punching me!"

    The two Ridgefield Park Sergeants are never heard refuting the claims that they punched the 22 year-old man as he was waiting for an ambulance.

    Even worse, Kyle was never charged, nor arrested, for any offense. Tasca says it's because he never threatened, did not have a weapon, and indeed never resisted and was not violent. Eventually Tasca was able to pry the punching Ridgefield Park officer off Kyle, as seen in a picture taken by the Kyle's mother, who also later commended Tasca in a phone call.

    The call came in to Tasca's answering machine and was kept on a recording: "Thank you Regina. I appreciate you standing up for him, for protecting him while the officer attacked him. I can't figure out what i would have done without you at the scene."

    Catherine Elston is the attorney helping Tasca prepare for a week-long departmental trial. Elston is also a former police officer.

    "This was excessive force used against an emotionally disturbed person," she said. "This was an unlawful tackle, this was a punching an emotionally disturbed person whose arms were pinned under his chest with his face pushed into the ground."

    What happened next is so baffling to so many.

    Tasca's voice began to waiver as she recounted the meeting with her superior officer:

    "The next thing I know he asks me to turn over my weapon and be sent for a fitness for duty exam," she said.

    Bogota PD, after hearing Tasca's story, believes she is psychologically incompetent to be a police officer, and she is being sent for testing. The Ridgefield Park Police officers seen tackling and punching an emotionally disturbed man waiting for an ambulance are never questioned. never interviewed by an Internal Affairs Investigator, and are still working the streets today.

    Bogota Police chose to suspend Tasca, an 11-year veteran with numerous commendations. There are photographs from the hospital documenting the bruises on the 22-year-old's head, back, arms and wrists.

    Tasca says the real reason she's being called out on these charges is she crossed the "blue line" by refusing to support another officer even when he used excessive force. The other problem? The Bogota Police Department is very small--fewer than 20 officers. And there, she is a definitive minority.

    Tasca spells it out: "I'm the only female--the first female ever--and the first and only gay female also." When asked if she feels targeted because of her sex and her sexual orientation, she doesn't hesitate in here answer: "Yes."

    The trial, to be in front of a retired judge who will be the sole decision maker, starts Tuesday.

    "If another officer is using excessive force, it's my duty to make sure you stop it. and that's what I did," says Tasca about her actions.

    But attorney Elston, a veteran of "the job" knows even more. "They're not just terminating her. They're destroying her reputation."

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    Also, article mentions protocol for calling for back up before dealing with an emotionally disturbed kid (ok, 22), but for domestic abuse, they just send out one cop? The hell?

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    Any dispatcher worth his/her salt will assign multiple people to a DV call. And any officer worth his/her salt will be on the way to the scene before they're assigned. Once the first officer gets there, waiting for backup is the proper thing to do. But depending on the circumstances, like a call in progress where a guy strangling his girlfriend and seconds could be the difference, waiting around for backup isn't always practical. And if anyone here is a Type A personality like most police tend to be, you would understand charging in alone instead of waiting around for backup.

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    Well that article is just disgusting lol. I wanna hear the PDs side, not because I believe them at all, but because I want to see what they could possibly say about this.

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    I bet they say something like a mentally disturbed person is considered a deadly weapon.

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    I'm surprised you dont think the officer defending him was in on it, and only did that to fool people into thinking not all cops are bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MF Perm tha Fineass View Post
    No. You're a little pussy hiding behind a computer trying to sound tough hanging from some other posters nuts.
    LOLOLOL

    http://pull.imgfave.netdna-cdn.com/i...2570885261.png

    Trying to sound tough? You're ironing again. So everyone who thinks the cop was justified is a tough guy? Instead of pepper spraying people in 10x worse situations, you should have gotten an education because all you've exhibited is you don't know what "backpedaling" means and you don't know what "sounding tough" mean.


    Quote Originally Posted by MF Perm tha Fineass View Post
    I think it's bullshit what the police officer did
    Exactly, and I think it wasn't. See how easy it is to have differing opinions without calling people retards and pussies?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dimmauk View Post
    Um ...perm, I think valisk is a cop in real life.
    Dummy, knows that I'm a law school drop out. He's trying to be sarcastic and funny. Keyword: trying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valisk View Post
    LOLOLOL



    Trying to sound tough? You're ironing again. So everyone who thinks the cop was justified is a tough guy? Instead of pepper spraying people in 10x worse situations, you should have gotten an education because all you've exhibited is you don't know what "backpedaling" means and you don't know what "sounding tough" mean.




    Exactly, and I think it wasn't. See how easy it is to have differing opinions without calling people retards and pussies?!



    Dummy, knows that I'm a law school drop out. He's trying to be sarcastic and funny. Keyword: trying.
    Exactly, you ain't shit. You got the article wrong, got your argument wrong, and still trying to safeface. Keep pissing that tryhard in the wind, and stop trying to act all spam son you who are you trying to impress?

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    You got me.

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    A thank you would be nice

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    Damn, this thread has had internet tough guys all over it since the start, but you two really take it up a notch.

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