Ridiculous Police News (Specific events)

[Blubbartron]

Why are all you idiots ignoring the fact that there are commonly available antidotes to various drug ODs, and/or the option of a stomach pump + charcoal? If a dealer swallowed ANYTHING while in police custody, they'd have upwards of 30 minutes to get his ass to a hospital in case it was anything dangerous. Let the professionals handle removing the contents from his mouth/stomach; professionals who will properly sedate and help a person, instead of punching them into compliance.

[Nephlite]

Vicarious Liability seems to deal mostly with superiors having control of and, therefore, liability for their subordinate's actions. I can see how it is applied to law enforcement. It seems quite a stretch to pin the actions of someone on another person though. I disagree with the doctrine even being applied in corporations, let alone police work. It's a blame game. Fuck the blame game and start operating under the direct liability definition.

I want to see changes in the way the whole thing is handled. Overhaul the drug policy, set strict operating standards for police and media, hold everyone accountable for their actions, you know...the stuff that will never happen, so I argue about it on a message board.

And that's the issue with Law Enforcement: you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. Look up the bystander laws in China and see how fucked up it is that no one walking on the street will help someone in distress because they're afraid of incurring liability from helping someone. Happens all the time. Good Faith and Samaritan laws can only go so far before there's Neglect of Duty and Failure to Act being thrown your way.

It's true by the definition of law that Law Enforcement Officers are not required to protect you, but that doesn't mean you're still not liable under duress or derelict of duty. This is something they hammer on us in the Academy.

Why are all you idiots ignoring the fact that there are commonly available antidotes to various drug ODs, and/or the option of a stomach pump + charcoal? If a dealer swallowed ANYTHING while in police custody, they'd have upwards of 30 minutes to get his ass to a hospital in case it was anything dangerous. Let the professionals handle removing the contents from his mouth/stomach; professionals who will properly sedate and help a person, instead of punching them into compliance.

This is very true. Unless he's combative, and then he won't be getting treatment until he's been controlled.

[Charismatic]

Why are all you idiots ignoring the fact that there are commonly available antidotes to various drug ODs, and/or the option of a stomach pump + charcoal? If a dealer swallowed ANYTHING while in police custody, they'd have upwards of 30 minutes to get his ass to a hospital in case it was anything dangerous. Let the professionals handle removing the contents from his mouth/stomach; professionals who will properly sedate and help a person, instead of punching them into compliance.

I'm pretty sure punching him in the face is a lot more satisfying.
Why not do it if you know there's a damn good chance of you getting away with it? I totally understand where the cops are coming from on this one.

Spoiler: show

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[noblemountain]

I actually was for keeping this section open, but more and more it is just a cesspool of the worst posters on BG showing how ignorant and sad they and their lives really are. A circle jerk of the pathetic trolls. I wonder if people are actually reading the shit flowing from their fingers or if they just HERPDERPTYPE and hit enter without ever re-reading it to see how ignorant most of it really sounds. Mods should really just nuke this whole sub from space.

[Nephlite]

I actually was for keeping this section open, but more and more it is just a cesspool of the worst posters on BG showing how ignorant and sad they and their lives really are. A circle jerk of the pathetic trolls. I wonder if people are actually reading the shit flowing from their fingers or if they just HERPDERPTYPE and hit enter without ever re-reading it to see how ignorant most of it really sounds. Mods should really just nuke this whole sub from space.

Agreed. Burn it, mods. And since I don't interact with noble outside of this thread, I can stop interacting with him altogether. Thanks!

[NynJa]

Whos the circle jerk exactly?

[BaneTheBrawler]

I have split the most recent instance of generalized police discussion into a thread for such. From now on, this thread is for Ridiculous Police News and the discussion of those specific events.

[Nephlite]

This is the second time this week you've made me smile.

I'm going to have to rethink my position on you.

[BaneTheBrawler]

I'm full of surprises. And other things.

[BaneTheBrawler]

I figure I'm okay posting new news as long as I don't wade into the discussion. This was on front page reddit:

Charges Dropped For Cop Who Fatally Shot Sleeping 7-Year-Old Girl

[chazzyphizzle]

no words

[Pirian]

How is that not at least involuntary manslaughter? How is he allowed to only get a "relatively minor misdemeanor charge of 'careless discharge of a firearm causing death'"? Sure it sucks and I can fully believe that he didn't mean to kill her. But he did kill her and there are punishments for killing people completely on accident.

[Rhinox]

Cause cops.

[Charismatic]

Cops and also black kid. 2ez.

[Pirian]

I get a bigger penalty in counterstrike for flash-banging myself and killing a teammate than he got for flash-banging himself and killing a 7 year old child.

[Nephlite]

How is that not at least involuntary manslaughter? How is he allowed to only get a "relatively minor misdemeanor charge of 'careless discharge of a firearm causing death'"? Sure it sucks and I can fully believe that he didn't mean to kill her. But he did kill her and there are punishments for killing people completely on accident.

The second charge is a bit more appropriate given the circumstances. In order to get involuntary, it has to be in commission of a crime. They qualified for immunity in that case as they were acting as Law Enforcement at the time.

[Pirian]

That's stupid as fuck, but thanks for at least explaining it

[Nephlite]

That's stupid as fuck, but thanks for at least explaining it

It's all about the loopholes. I'm not going to say the police get away with it as much as criminals do, though. In my experience, and seeing fellow officers charged with crimes, it's easier for a non-LEO to loophole out out charges due to weird technicalities.

For example: I arrested a kid once who tried to rob someone, fled from the scene, resisted arrest, had an unregistered can of pepper spray on him, and was a felon. We didn't learn the felon part until much later because he initially lied to us and said he was 15, a juvi. So we took him to Child Services Division and ran him, come to find out he was 19 and a felon. That aggregates the charge to a parole violation. All of the charges were dropped due to the technicality that we initially processed him as a juvenile and the standing aggregating charge would have been negated due to his status as a minor, which threw the rest of the charges out except the robbery, which was dropped to a misdemeanor attempt theft. He's slapped with a fine and released to commit Armed Carjacking (Class A Felony), again lied and said he was a minor and the same damn thing happens where the Armed Carjacking was dropped to Attempted Unauthorized Use of a Motor Vehicle (Misdemeanor) and the gun charge was dropped.

It's a loophole he used several times to get out of charges, which he clearly knew about and the prosecutor told the judge about it, but they didn't listen and let him slide on technicality.

[Teknique]

oh. Heres an interesting one, its about those cops that chased the two unarmed black people (Political correctness whatever) and then shot them 137 times. http://countercurrentnews.com/2014/1...them-on-leave/
^ i believe this was the situation reported like 10 pages (or more) ago about the cops chasing the two black people for like 30+ minutes and there was a HUGE cop trail following them, and then the one officer ran up on the roof/hood and shot into the windshield while the firing squad was shooting the car. Not quite sure. I have no idea.

Article about cops sueing the city for placing them on leave after the 137 shots fired btw.

[notorious bum]

Grand jury decided not to indict NYPD officer in chokehold death of Eric Garner http://wapo.st/1yO1P3M