Ridiculous Police News (Specific events)

[6souls]

GS-1811

Do you have an arduous time walking and standing?

[Abandon]

I'm relatively familiar with the UCMJ and MCM, but not so much on the civilian side.

[Sho]

Neph is the only one who regularly comments about these things. Alot of the law enforcement and military folks on here usually don't go out of their way to advertise it since there's some extreme butthurt on these forums against anyone in those positions.

I actually respect cops for what they do and what they stand for. It's a tough and highly stressful position to be in. However, I always try to see the story on both sides -- the narrative from the police side just doesn't seem trustworthy at all these days.

I'd love to hear more of your and any other officer's perspectives, retired or not.

[Krandor]

I'll just say two quick bits in regards to the big ones atm from my PoV.

While the handling of the entire thing was fubar, Wilson not being indicted was the right decision given the evidence presented. Now if you want to argue that that's because the incident was investigated poorly (which it was) or any of the other bullshit going on, more power to you. I truthfully just don't care enough about the situation to really get into argument on the Internet about it.

Eric Garner situation there is no defense for what happened there. Period.

[Xno Kappa]

Do you have an arduous time walking and standing?

I also have quite a bit of dexterity with comparatively free motion of finger, wrist, elbow, shoulder, hip, and knee joints.

[Mazmaz]

Neph is the only one who regularly comments about these things. Alot of the law enforcement and military folks on here usually don't go out of their way to advertise it since there's some extreme butthurt on these forums against anyone in those positions.

lol yes, the butthurt is from the people against cops, not the people who spill poopdeck opinion into other parts of the forum and the games played with these people. This guy

[archibaldcrane]

I'll just say two quick bits in regards to the big ones atm from my PoV.

While the handling of the entire thing was fubar, Wilson not being indicted was the right decision given the evidence presented. Now if you want to argue that that's because the incident was investigated poorly (which it was) or any of the other bullshit going on, more power to you. I truthfully just don't care enough about the situation to really get into argument on the Internet about it.

Eric Garner situation there is no defense for what happened there. Period.

How do you know the Garner no true bill didn't result from an equally terrible prosecution?

(obviously it did)

[Abandon]

maz, for allah's sake, shut the hell up

[jmc]

I try and catch up on this thread every once in awhile, even got some PM's asking for my opinion on some of these stories. Sadly I haven't had time to fully read into them, so I won't comment until I read more info on them.

Also, have a random image of a shotgun indy PD grabbed off a felon the other day.

[Gokku]

^ thats awesome needs to be in either a movie or a csi episode with child assassins

[BaneTheBrawler]

speaking just as me, not as a mod, holy fucking shit. that has to be a million kinds of illegal.

[Melena]

Oh it is. People will go to great lengths to disguise a gun. Though I wasn't sworn, I had to sign off on a lot of training that sworn staff had to do so I was getting bulletins on confiscated guns that were modified/painted/disguised as toys.

[FNH]

speaking just as me, not as a mod, holy fucking shit. that has to be a million kinds of illegal.

In my area, the only thing illegal about that shotgun is that it was in possession of a felon. Unless the barrel was less than 18" and not in possession of a NFA tax stamp.

[Nephlite]

Again, apologies for being so late.

He WAS being harassed. He didn't do anything wrong, and they were still going to arrest him. He put up slight resistance which resulted in his death. This is wanton police abuse, and your denial to see that way, while predictable, is infuriating.

He didn't do anything? He was told multiple times not to do something and was arrested multiple times for doing the same thing. I do believe that qualifies.

How did his chest get compressed? I bet if Garner would have tapped out, they would have charged him with assault.

They jumped on top of him like morons. That's why even I don't really understand why the whole lot of them weren't brought up on charges. I'm assuming the individual charge against the cop doing the "choke hold" was to appease people, when in reality, the prosecutor should have put all of them up.

So yea, this would come as no surprise if it wasn't surprising:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...ce-job-n261111

Serious lack of oversight with the hiring standards. Heads will swing for this if it's indeed true.

This just in: Neph beats niggas all day, expects no repercussions. This entire mess is disgusting. armed? dead. Unarmed? Dead. Dead niggas all over the country, and people are screaming IT ISNT RACIAL, WHITE PEOPLE ARE MISTREATED TOO. get the fuck out of here. Let black cops start doing this shit to whites everywhere, and see how quick those boys end up behind bars. You wanna know why blax don't trust cops? Because this shit has been going on FOREVER. I can probably safely assume that at least 50% of blax here on bg, a bunch of vidya nerds, have gone out somewhere to grab food, or visit someone, and have been pulled over and harassed for doing absolutely nothing. BUT IT'S NOT A BLACK THING. kindly take that nightstick and go fuck yourself.

Wow bro. I'm like, sad right now. I thought we were friends?

Sorry man, this narrative cannot be spun at all. Eric Garner had been arrested for minor offenses well over 30 times in the past prior to this -- they should have been well acquainted with him by then (in terms of him not being a threat). As soon as he was gasping and choking for air, they should have relented. It was clearly a choke hold being implemented on him, no matter how you want to call it. It's not like there wasn't any video evidence at all this time. City medical examiners ruled it a death by compression of the neck as well as the chest, it wasn't one or the other.

Are you honestly going to say that the officers shouldn't have relented on their hold after hearing him scream "I can't breathe!" 9 times? It was obvious he was subdued and couldn't otherwise escape. Despite this, the grand jury couldn't get together and indict the two cops? Where's the justice? I'm not even saying that they are even guilty, but the community should have at least been granted this been moved forward to a trial just to prove that the system works. This is yet another example of obvious police overreach and protection by the court system.

I'm not saying they shouldn't, so don't put words in my mouth. I speculated as to why the officer wasn't charged, and I offered another reason why I believe it should have went different above.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/03/justic...ury-chokehold/



So please, tell me how I'm the one not reading articles? The maneuver being illegal is relevant BECAUSE IT CAUSED HIS DEATH.

What you just told me is that it's okay to do illegal things if you're a cop. No wonder why it's open season on blax lately. Keep sucking your fellow police officer's dick, Neph.

You got a real hard on for me. Tell me how you really feel, bro.

Read your own article and see that it contributed, but was not the direct cause of death. Death was ruled as compression of the chest, with the "chokehold" a contributing factor. That's why I mentioned all of them should have been brought up, and not the sole officer because of the political game. Try harder, though. You're making me wet.

Is Neph the only cop who posts here?

Most cops don't like to get involved in the circlejerk, and I also have a more lax social media policy. If it changes, though, I'll retreat to my hole.

Would be nice to hear other cops talking about these issues around here since Neph just seems to reinforce stereotypes of cops as clueless.

Mmmm... Hahaha

Sorry, I know reality is tough.

I try and catch up on this thread every once in awhile, even got some PM's asking for my opinion on some of these stories. Sadly I haven't had time to fully read into them, so I won't comment until I read more info on them.

Also, have a random image of a shotgun indy PD grabbed off a felon the other day.

That's pretty. I once took a converted 870 that was concealed in an umbrella. It had 5 bodies on it and was destroyed in 2001. I recovered it in 2012.

[Day]

Maybe cops have been mistreating blax forever. Every single one of them. Just like every single nigga i know has broke into a home or killed someone on the streets for some gang bullshit or crack rox. Circle of Life.

[notorious bum]

As Akai Gurley was bleeding out, instead of calling for help, cop contacted his union rep first http://m.nydailynews.com/new-york/br...4219?cid=bitly …

[notorious bum]

Matt Taibbi discusses the Garner case and the legitimacy of the injustice system.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics...0141205?page=2

But the policy looks worse when a white yuppie like me can live in the same city as Garner for 15 years and never even be asked the time by someone in uniform. And at the very highest levels of society, where corruption has demonstrably been soaring in recent years, the police have almost been legislated out of existence.

The counter-argument to all this is that the police are sent where there's the most crime. But that argument doesn't hold up for long in a city that not only has recently become the unpunished economic corruption capital of the Western world – it's also a place where white professionals on the Upper East and West Sides can have their coke and weed safely home-delivered with their Chinese food, while minorities in Bed-Stuy and Harlem are catching real charges and jail time for the same thing.

[Nephlite]

Transgender Woman Shot, Killed While Pounding on Door of South L.A. Home for Help

http://ktla.com/2014/12/04/transgend...home-for-help/

There's a gun violence thread.

[Melena]

Two members of SFPD Found Guilty of various corruption charges

http://www.ktvu.com/story/27559333/g...rruption-trial

SAN FRANCISCO (KTVU and Wires) – A federal court jury found two San Francisco police officers guilty on several counts of corruption Friday in a case that began with property being stolen during police raids in 2009.Sgt. Ian Furminger was convicted four counts: two counts of wire fraud, conspiracy against civil rights and conspiracy to commit theft concerning a federally funded program.

[Brill Weave]

Is Neph the only cop who posts here?

jmc tends to stay in the NHL thread during the NHL season. Fuck Boston.