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    That being said, more news:

    The Baltimore County 911 employee whose comments on police brutality were criticized by the county police union has resigned from her job.

    Last month, comments Murray made on Facebook surfaced amid nationwide debate over police conduct. Murray said, in part, that she would rather her son encounter "a so-called thug" than an officer, as she feared for her son's safety interacting with police because he is black. The Baltimore County Fraternal Order of Police Lodge No. 4 condemned the remarks and said Murray should not be allowed to continue in her position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazmaz View Post
    Did you hear that guys? It was "randomly computer generated" racism. PHEW

    edit: in case it wasn't clear, the biggest problem wasn't that they may have been defendents. It was that they were shooting black faces. EXCLUSIVELY black faces.
    I've never seen a mug-shot book, but I'm guessing they are sorted by race to streamline the identification process. So it makes sense that all 6 faces are the same race. You would have a point if they had found 100 shot up sheets, and every single one of them was black. Or they would find pages with black men, white men, asian men, etc. Alas, we will never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaneTheBrawler View Post
    No one dorito'd anyone. All me. Talk shit, get hit. I don't care if you're making a point, don't be tossin out names as insults.
    Point remains, but I guess keep it clean with no name calling. Both posters have been proven several times now to post sensationalist click bait garbage without even reading it. Bum and maz' right wing equivalents were ultimately banned for that practice. Yet they still remain.

    And no, I'm not a Republican or Fox News fan at all no matter how many PM's bum sends me or whatever tripe excuse reply you use.

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    Take it easy on the slander man, nobody is PM'ing you threats, accusations, or anything of the sort. The chair tipping article isn't clickbait, this raging over everything I post feels too personal, even though I've never had any real dialog with Day. Whatever. How do you rage about my biased narratives and "newsfeed" when the article is clearly from the local news story?

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    While I don't like anyone being out of a job, she needed to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmc View Post
    While I don't like anyone being out of a job, she needed to go.
    Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gokku View Post
    Why?
    Just gonna copy and paste from my facebook from when I talked about this exact dispatcher.

    As a dispatcher your officers need to be able to trust you with their lives, a dispatcher is the lifeline for units in the street. If you don't trust your officers, and your officers do not trust you then only bad things can occur from that.

    While it is her opinion, and everyone has a amendment right to freedom of speech its still highly inappropriate to be sending that message, shitting on the units you are hired to support and protect on a daily basis.

    She could be a fantastic dispatcher, possibly one of the best for all we know. However that does her no good if the trust just isn't there.

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    This could probably go in the Florida thread, too, but another fantastic write-up by Shaun King:

    Record 346 inmates die, dozens of guards fired in Florida prisons
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/0...orida-prisons#

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    Quote Originally Posted by notorious bum View Post
    This could probably go in the Florida thread, too, but another fantastic write-up by Shaun King:

    Record 346 inmates die, dozens of guards fired in Florida prisons
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/0...orida-prisons#
    That was extremely difficult to read.

    God damn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xantavia View Post
    I've never seen a mug-shot book, but I'm guessing they are sorted by race to streamline the identification process. So it makes sense that all 6 faces are the same race. You would have a point if they had found 100 shot up sheets, and every single one of them was black. Or they would find pages with black men, white men, asian men, etc. Alas, we will never know.
    Probably left out the other sheets of other races just to create drama.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mazmaz
    Did you hear that guys? It was "randomly computer generated" racism. PHEW

    edit: in case it wasn't clear, the biggest problem wasn't that they may have been defendents. It was that they were shooting black faces. EXCLUSIVELY black faces.
    Randomly computer generated racism, as in it doesn't make sense to purposely bias a photo array? Sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaneTheBrawler View Post
    No one dorito'd anyone. All me. Talk shit, get hit. I don't care if you're making a point, don't be tossin out names as insults.
    Talk shit? You mean my opinion? what name did I call anyone in that post? I guess 21 year old liberal is offensive? or bc I directed my post at the poster I took issue with? idk bro. fuck this sub forum now.

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    I was reading about this yesterday where they posted the transcript and all i could think was, "Wow open and shut case right there." The way it was written made it seem like the guy that was shot was the in the drivers side (Because they said he had his hands up and they had a closeup on the driver who had his hands out the window). Watching the video, shows another story. No matter what he is saying, the passenger is being very shady with how he was handling it.

    The driver is reaching his hands out the window, showing the cop next to him he isn't doing shit, and waiting for orders. Nothing happened to him, he wasn't shot, he was being passive with every move.

    The other guy...

    1: How are you not going to tell a cop you have a gun in the car (#1 thing i do, Officer I have a registered firearm in my glovebox.)
    2: He keeps saying he isn't doing anything,but unlike his driving friend isn't putting his hands outside the car (This can go both way, if the officer wanted to make sure he wouldn't reach he should of told him to put his hands outside. The second the cop said "Show me your hands" the driver hands were out the window)
    3: He stated "I'm getting out of the car, and on the ground" The officer responded "No you're not" (In this case, the officer said don't do something.... and he fucking did it. Not only did it, but not in a passive manner. Got out of the car quickly. I don't know about most people, but if a cop is freaking out... yelling... with a gun pointed at me..... i move fucking SLOW.)

    So far i've been on the liberal train with all these shootings. In almost all cases, IMO, there was no reason for someone to die. This, to me, looks like a training video they would show people on what not to do in a traffic stop (Don't tell cop about hidden gun, and when the cop tells you no, do it anyway)

    Edit: I will say it would be nice if cops would start capping people in the leg or something instead of trying to always kill.... but in this case (Knowing the guy has shot at a cop before) i can understand why the cop wasn't taking any chances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmc View Post
    Just gonna copy and paste from my facebook from when I talked about this exact dispatcher.
    Okay so why does this apply to her as a dispatcher but not cops, because I don't feel safe around cops. Her reasons for not feeling safe aren't unjust the math is on her side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yabby View Post
    I was reading about this yesterday where they posted the transcript and all i could think was, "Wow open and shut case right there." The way it was written made it seem like the guy that was shot was the in the drivers side (Because they said he had his hands up and they had a closeup on the driver who had his hands out the window). Watching the video, shows another story. No matter what he is saying, the passenger is being very shady with how he was handling it.

    The driver is reaching his hands out the window, showing the cop next to him he isn't doing shit, and waiting for orders. Nothing happened to him, he wasn't shot, he was being passive with every move.

    The other guy...

    1: How are you not going to tell a cop you have a gun in the car (#1 thing i do, Officer I have a registered firearm in my glovebox.)
    2: He keeps saying he isn't doing anything,but unlike his driving friend isn't putting his hands outside the car (This can go both way, if the officer wanted to make sure he wouldn't reach he should of told him to put his hands outside. The second the cop said "Show me your hands" the driver hands were out the window)
    3: He stated "I'm getting out of the car, and on the ground" The officer responded "No you're not" (In this case, the officer said don't do something.... and he fucking did it. Not only did it, but not in a passive manner. Got out of the car quickly. I don't know about most people, but if a cop is freaking out... yelling... with a gun pointed at me..... i move fucking SLOW.)

    So far i've been on the liberal train with all these shootings. In almost all cases, IMO, there was no reason for someone to die. This, to me, looks like a training video they would show people on what not to do in a traffic stop (Don't tell cop about hidden gun, and when the cop tells you no, do it anyway)

    Edit: I will say it would be nice if cops would start capping people in the leg or something instead of trying to always kill.... but in this case (Knowing the guy has shot at a cop before) i can understand why the cop wasn't taking any chances.
    Only commenting on your edit. Police are never trained to shoot to wound. They are trained to hit center mass. The second you try to aim for limbs is when you miss and potentially get shot/killed yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaneTheBrawler View Post
    No one dorito'd anyone. All me. Talk shit, get hit. I don't care if you're making a point, don't be tossin out names as insults.
    Dorito'd? What is this new fangled slang you youngin's are using?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringthree View Post
    Dorito'd? What is this new fangled slang you youngin's are using?
    The report button looks like a dorito

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurell View Post
    How is the math on her side? Do cops kill more than "thugs"/gangs or w/e?
    ProPublica calculated a statistical figure called a risk ratio by dividing the rate of black homicide victims by the rate of white victims. This ratio, commonly used in epidemiology, gives an estimate for how much more at risk black teenagers were to be killed by police officers.Risk ratios can have varying levels of precision, depending on a variety of mathematical factors. In this case, because such shootings are rare from a statistical perspective, a 95 percent confidence interval indicates that black teenagers are at between 10 and 40 times greater risk of being killed by a police officer. The calculation used 2010-2012 population estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau's American Community Survey.
    Link to it

    Actually is seems its Native Americans that get shot the most based on population by cops followed 2nd by people of color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melena View Post
    Only commenting on your edit. Police are never trained to shoot to wound. They are trained to hit center mass. The second you try to aim for limbs is when you miss and potentially get shot/killed yourself.
    I understand that there would be risks in doing this. I didn't mean the police officer in this case should of done that (As he knew the guys record, knew he had a gun close, and the guy was moving fast to him). It just seems like there is no middle ground anymore. I'm sure i need some education on this, but why did he have to go right to his gun? They don't have taser guns with them at all times? A taser would put him down just as fast as that gun did, and it wouldn't kill him. I know hindsight is 20/20, but this is starting to get out of control. And this shit is happening while cops know they are underfire.

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    Met policeman cleared after kicking mother tending to her child in hospital

    Warren Luke, 38, a Metropolitan police officer, was accused of repeatedly kicking and punching the 41-year-old woman, who, hospital staff had said to him, was refusing to leave. But a jury at Wood Green crown court on Thursday cleared Luke of committing any crime.
    Not the U.S. this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gokku View Post
    Okay so why does this apply to her as a dispatcher but not cops, because I don't feel safe around cops. Her reasons for not feeling safe aren't unjust the math is on her side.
    Who said this doesn't apply to officers either?

    If I don't trust a fellow officer with my life, I'm not going to work with said officer.

    Same for the dispatcher, if she doesn't trust me and I dont trust her then its just not going to work out. If my life is on the line and I am screaming for help over the radio, I want someone I can trust that will send me the required assistance.

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