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    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
    They identified, but the guy had headphones on while playing Pokemon so he was unaware.
    That's fair. But once headphones removed they should have reidentified. To push the situation, if cops yell to identify themselves to a deaf person who is unresponsive, do they then never once flash them their badges once they get the attention of said person? That's roughly the equivalent here, there's no expectation of headphone volume statute that I'm aware of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notorious bum View Post
    They almost killed a man because he matched the description of a "large black male," who the fuck are they protecting and serving again? Am I supposed to get a massive boner when police go all cowboy when a bank gets robbed? lol

    This is not only sloppy work that puts innocent civilians in unnecessary danger, but also themselves if that were the actual armed robber strolling in a public place. This isn't Dog the fucking Bounty Hunter, there's nothing to gain chasing a bank robber through the park and getting into a shootout.

    As for the rest of your "wah, wah blue lives, ur a sjw" drivel, I guess you didn't have a problem with the blanket statement about that bumblefuck police department racially profiling to catch the bad guys, you know, the exact protocol that these five fucks used that you're trying to make excuses for.
    Wow so searching someone at gunpoint now counts as almost killed. Hold the presses now BG, according to bum now roughly 35% of us have now become a statistic of almost killed by police violence.

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    isnt there something like... dont point your gun at anything your not willing to shoot... isnt that a thing... think it is... its almost like they could have done everything they did, and kept the guns holstered, and not have been a threat to this guys life...almost...

    NAW im whom am i kidding the big black boggie man could turn at any moment! best be ready to drop him like hes a run away slave~

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gokku View Post
    isnt there something like... dont point your gun at anything your not willing to shoot... isnt that a thing... think it is... its almost like they could have done everything they did, and kept the guns holstered, and not have been a threat to this guys life...almost...

    NAW im whom am i kidding the big black boggie man could turn at any moment! best be ready to drop him like hes a run away slave~
    Dude, if you are searching a possible armed robbery suspect, your guns are fucking drawn, end of story. Doesn't matter if you're white, black, brown or green.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notorious bum View Post
    They almost killed a man because he matched the description of a "large black male," who the fuck are they protecting and serving again? Am I supposed to get a massive boner when police go all cowboy when a bank gets robbed? lol
    Actually it wasnt a generic "large black male", it was "a large, black man, wearing all black with "something on top of his head"", and he also said he had a backpack on him (something that could hold a large sum of money).


    Also, Ekakitie seems to be somewhat understanding of the situation, but that could just be him wanting to take the high road.

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    From the article, the guy was telling the story from his point of view and how he thought the police's point of view was as well. The police fucked up by not reiterating to the guy that they were police officers after they finally got his undivided attention however, they were in uniform so it's not like he had some plainclothes cops pointing guns at him.

    The description that they had to go by was also lacking and vague; it was akin to "black male with nappy hair".

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    Actually it wasnt a generic "large black male", it was "a large, black man, wearing all black with "something on top of his head"", and he also said he had a backpack on him (something that could hold a large sum of money).
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    The article phrases it weird like that's what he thinks they were looking for.

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    I guess the actual video shows that the suspect was a tall, skinny, black male. This guy they went after is a 300 lbs lineman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
    I guess the actual video shows that the suspect was a tall, skinny, black male. This guy they went after is a 300 lbs lineman.
    hey hey still black and we all know thats "close enough"

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    We have to give the police the benefit of the doubt, despite the entire department subscribing to the opposite when it comes to PoC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokus View Post

    The description that they had to go by was also lacking and vague; it was akin to "black male with nappy hair".
    That's 99% of my calls right there.

    "(Insert race) male, 5'7"-6'0", 20-30 y/o wearing dark clothing"

    I shit you not, that is usually descriptions we are giving by the public. It's also the only description we have right as a serious incident occurs. Makes the job pretty tricky, and individuals can get away easily due to this.

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    Yeah when I worked in retail and we did robbery prevention training they always stressed to try to remember things like tattoos, scars, piercings etc because most people just give the "it was a tall black dude" description.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notorious bum View Post
    We have to give the police the benefit of the doubt, despite the entire department subscribing to the opposite when it comes to PoC.
    Because you know exactly how every officer in every agency across the united states thinks or believes.

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    They have shown overwhelming evidence that a group of them don't. I don't care how small a percentage that group is, it has happened enough times that something in the system itself needs to change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melena View Post
    Because you know exactly how every officer in every agency across the united states thinks or believes.
    I was just pointing at the facts about this PD, but I guess you already understand what we mean when we say this is a systemic problem.

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    If all 4 of them are wearing their police clothe I don't think them saying "hey we're the cops" needs to be really said. Though going up to every black guy in the damn area guns drawn is going to get someone killed. Maybe our police need to go through actual military training since our soldiers have 10000000000x better trigger discipline than any of our officers.

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    Not happening because cop feelings would be hurt from the DI chain smokings. Just need something more than a yearly 30 round qual. Not saying every department needs Haley Strategics classes but I also don't see people lining up to support with their tax dollars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost_Wheel22 View Post
    Not happening because cop feelings would be hurt from the DI chain smokings. Just need something more than a yearly 30 round qual. Not saying every department needs Haley Strategics classes but I also don't see people lining up to support with their tax dollars.
    People would complain due to the overtime that would cost sadly.

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    Couldnt it be implemented at the academy level so at least in 20 years cops stop killing people?

    Cuz 20 years ago cops were killing people and now here we are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmc View Post
    People would complain due to the overtime that would cost sadly.
    You'd think it'd be reverse issue since LAPD/NYPD cops really rack up the collatera--I mean non-combatant citizens lethally harmed during shootouts and everyone else seems to go off their training modules. Help a person not get shot? Get shot. Be a bystander to some dumb motherfucker wants to suicide by cop? Get shot. Drive drunk, crash, kill your passenger, and attempt to climb up and out? Get shot in the neck and become paralyzed. Get pulled over for speeding through a traffic stop on a bike? Get shot in the arm.

    I've only been shot with a .22LR and it hurt good enough for me to not want to get shot by anyone or anything 20 years later.

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