Ridiculous Police News (Specific events)

[Ghost_Wheel22]

Treating "simple" stuff outside immediate trauma (gunshot/stabbing) or cpr the skill and equipment requirements go way up. Cops don't jam IVs and EMT/paramedics don't clear crime scenes.

[dasva]

Oh yeah I don't expect cops actually get more medical training I was just saying that's what it would come down to if you wanted them to better know when someone isn't feeling well

id argue that holding someone for 2 hours when you THINK they have drugs happens MOST often when your a shade of brown, couple that with him telling them and you start to wonder if they were more focused on digging till they found something to stick then protecting the community the job they are paid for.

at the end of the day a man died because the people paid to keep him safe were busy trying to find something to hold him on (really too fast a lane change...really?)

Actually watched thru enough of the video now and yeah that's not what happened. Some highlights are a decent portion of the time he was slurring and was semi-coherent. He doesn't even get to the police car till the 13 minute mark since they were talking to him a bit first about what was going on hard to tell when he actually gets in since they were talking about taking a seat a bit later. They got a dog in rather quickly and you can see the dog reacting to something and they come back and questioned him about it doing the whole it will be easier if you just tell us about it. Spent maybe a total of 15-20 minutes or so going thru everything and talking to him about it. A decent bit of the time was spent talking about getting him his reader and glasses and meds and sounds like cop even helped him check his blood sugar. They questioned him about the name thing and how they found an photo ID of him and SS card with a different name and he seemed really confused by it and even denied having a SS card. Cops talked it over a bit amongst themselves and you hear him messing with his meds a lot. Like you hear him open a pill bottle several times and a bunch of clicking noises over and over again which I believe insulin injectors make when you increase the amounts. I note this because either he was fidgeting a lot or he might have in his clearly not fully functioning state accidentally misdosed himself. Around 43 minutes he starts making noises and at ~44 talks to the cops and they say they getting someone but he's still going to jail after that and immediately call for a squad. Within 2 minutes they realize he's gotten worse and take him out of the car and try to get him to respond and see if he is breathing telling him to hang in there and such. Ambulance gets there at almost exactly the 51 minute mark.

So yeah no holding for 2 hours. Guy spent maybe about 30 minutes in the police car and had reasonable suspicions. And based on what was going on he was almost 100% not safe to drive

Edit: Ok I see why the video is so long after they get him out of there they go to an in car feed

Edit 2: Ok going thru that quickly he was in the car all of about 25 minutes and half of that was with door open legs hanging out talking to the cop. He does appear to mess with what I'm assuming is an insulin pen over and appears to inject himself in the stomach multiple times. Starts breathing heavy a few minutes later. See him shaking and within seconds of seeing the shaking they start calling for a squad so that by the time he tries to tell them he's doing poorly they reassure him one is already on the way. Shit goes downhill real fast from there and they pull him out

[Niiro]

Didn't watch the video but I read the article, it just sounds like a really unfortunate situation.

Guy was detained for reasonable suspicions and had access to his medication.

Other than maybe underestimating the amount of distress he was in I don't know what else the cops could have done. Measuring blood sugar and taking insulin (or other medication) is something diabetics do multiple times a day, it's hardly an emergency situation. They don't know his medical background and they probably figured his medication was enough to address the issue, the guy even said he was feeling better.

[Ragnus]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2755537

Cincinnati Police Union says that officers deserve extra pay in compensation for having to wear body cams.

[Tarage]

How about cops that don't wear bodycams get a paycut instead?

[Yuri-G]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2755537

Cincinnati Police Union says that officers deserve extra pay in compensation for having to wear body cams.

oh please let them explain in further detail how body cameras are a burden to the individual that require higher compensation. I want to hear this one. I would love to hear this one.

[Tyrath]

It makes them responsible for their actions. That's a fucking burden.

[Salodin]

I'm reasonable enough to not immediately dismiss their call for more compensation, and I'd even grant it if they were unreasonably difficult in maintaining (like uploading videos, docking regularly, any other maintenance). However, all that shit can all be eliminated on the back end if we hire competent people to outfit our departments and setup an efficient system; enough so that it wouldn't be a burden on the police and we wouldn't have to fork over additional compensation.

Shit, even if that wasn't possible and we still had to spend money equivalent to additional compensation for all body cam wearing cops, I'd rather put that money into an agency that handles all that for the departments instead of paying police more to police themselves.

[Aksannyi]

Cops be like, "How would you like being filmed while you're working?"

Every employee everywhere else is like ... "Um .... we already are?" lol

[jmc]

My department is probably to blame for unions asking for more money in exchange for wearing body cams.

My department offered 100 officers a extra $500 /year to wear a body cam during a trial period. No one ended up volunteering, myself included.

[BaneTheBrawler]

why? odds are you're being recorded anyway.

[6souls]

My department is probably to blame for unions asking for more money in exchange for wearing body cams.

My department offered 100 officers a extra $500 /year to wear a body cam during a trial period. No one ended up volunteering, myself included.

Added source - https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...r0L/story.html

[jmc]

why? odds are you're being recorded anyway.

Well i'm plainclothes now, so it would be pretty stupid to be walking around with one strapped to my chest.

Alot of the guys don't want the extra hassle of dealing with technology (majority of my coworkers can't even turn on a computer).

[BaneTheBrawler]

oh, well, yeah plainclothes would be dumb. sounds like your coworkers need to retire already.

[FNH]

Cops be like, "How would you like being filmed while you're working?"

Every employee everywhere else is like ... "Um .... we already are?" lol

I'm not filmed at work

[Aksannyi]

I haven't had a job in the last 10 years where there weren't security cameras everywhere.

Granted, they're not actually on my person but they're definitely there and I could definitely get caught if I did something fucked up. And these were office jobs. Hell, even my school is crawling with cameras.

[Psion]

lol, and lets not forget retail... if you work retail, you're on camera at all times pretty much, unless for some reason the boss just put dummy cameras up and there's nothing to film you. i know my boss at baskin-robbins had to pull out the video tapes once when i was closing the cash register and discovered around 50$ missing, found out it was one of the girls working there stealing.

and even then, you're pretty much always on film as a cop. if it aint street cameras in front of stores, there's tons of people with smartphones who are going to see something going on and break em out. i know news outlets are always bitching about millennials not stopping to help people and just breaking out the cameras as if we're addicted to violence porn or something, but when there's someone injured or in trouble you might not know enough to help them with their injuries but know enough not to assist if you have no clue wtf you're doing. in that case, camera evidence is something that can be a serious help later on to the victim in court if the case is criminal or due to a safety issue.

Body cameras would just provide another, better form of evidence, because smartphone cameras, while nice, might not cover the entire situation and miss critical evidence before confrontations happen, while street cameras have a fixed point of view, often too far from the scene and lacking in sound. having multiple points of reference via video and capturing the entire scene would only help the cops in pretty much every case unless the cop actually was doing shady shit. in either case, why should we pay you more for a) something that benefits you or b) something that punishes you because you're a shitty cop? its a win win for everyone except corrupted policemen. ;x

[6souls]

unless for some reason the boss just put dummy cameras up and there's nothing to film you.

That's how it is at my job. The business owner despises surveillance, so she uses fakes in an attempt to deter shoplifting. We do have two locations with real cameras, but only because the city they're located in requires it by law.

[Vaspinne]

Police kill deaf man who was trying to use sign language

https://twitter.com/i/moments/768103576929443840

[Dantrag]

Police kill deaf man who was trying to use sign language

https://twitter.com/i/moments/768103576929443840

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