Ridiculous Police News (Specific events)

[Ragnus]

Thee weeks of desk duty, a slap on the wrist in the form of paid leave of duty while an "investigation" is performed, and a lesson on there the cameras are in the station at worst for those guys.

[hey]

The article says two of them were fired.

Dodd started an internal affairs investigation which led to Cooley and Emmer being fired. Smith, one of the first responding officers, was not disciplined.

[6souls]

Police Officer Gilberto Valle's lawyers said he was just spinning sick and twisted fantasies for his own pleasure when he chatted online about abducting, roasting and eating women. A jury, though, decided he was deadly serious.

Valle, 28, was convicted Tuesday of conspiracy in a macabre case that opened a window on a shocking Internet world of cannibalism fetishists. He could get life in prison at sentencing June 19 but is likely to face much less.

His lawyers branded the outcome a "thought prosecution" that sets a dangerous precedent, while federal prosecutors said the verdict proved that Valle crossed the line from fantasy to reality and was genuinely bent on committing "grotesque crimes."

Valle slumped in his chair, dropped his head and wept when the verdict in what the tabloids dubbed the "Cannibal Cop" trial was announced after more than two days of deliberations: guilty of conspiracy to commit kidnapping and guilty of illegally using a police database.

The jurors left the courthouse without comment. Most did not immediately respond to emails and phone messages or declined to discuss the case.

Valle's mother, Elizabeth, shook her head.

"I'm in shock and want to be left alone," she said. As she sat on a wooden bench after almost everyone had left the courtroom, she said loudly: "This is going to kill my mother."

Prosecutors said Valle plotted in lusty, lip-smacking detail to abduct, torture and cannibalize six women he knew, including his wife. While none of the women were ever harmed — and only his wife discovered his schemes — prosecutors said he took concrete steps to carry out his plot.

They said the New York City police officer looked up potential targets on a restricted law enforcement database; searched the Internet for how to knock someone out with chloroform and where to get torture devices and other tools; and showed up on a woman's block after striking an agreement to kidnap her for $5,000 for a New Jersey man who wanted to rape and kill her. That man was also arrested and is awaiting trial.

U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara said in a statement: "Today, a unanimous jury found that Gilberto Valle's detailed and specific plans to abduct women for the purpose of committing grotesque crimes were very real and that he was guilty as charged. The Internet is a forum for the free exchange of ideas, but it does not confer immunity for plotting crimes and taking steps to carry out those crimes."

The defense insisted all along that he was just fantasizing and never intended to harm any of the women.

"This was a thought prosecution," his attorney Julia Gatto said outside court after the verdict. "Obviously, the case involved thoughts that were unusual and bizarre and frankly very ugly. We think that the jury couldn't get past that and they never got to the law."

Another Valle lawyer, Robert Baum, said of the verdict: "It sets a dangerous precedent."

In one of the numerous online conversations shown to the jury, Valle told a man he met in a fetish chat room, "I want her to experience being cooked alive. She'll be trussed up like a turkey. ... She'll be terrified, screaming and crying."

In another exchange, Valle suggested a woman he knew would be easy prey because she lived alone. The men discussed cooking her, basted in olive oil, over an open fire and using her severed head as a centerpiece for a sit-down meal.

"I'm dying to eat some girl meat," Valle mused in yet another exchange.

During the trial, Valle's wife tearfully testified that she fled the couple's home with her baby and contacted the FBI after putting Internet tracking software on his computer and discovering what he was up to.

Members of the jury recoiled upon seeing what appeared to be mostly staged Internet images from a sexual fetish site Valle visited. The images included photos of wide-eyed women with apples stuffed in their mouths like roasted pigs and a video of a chained, naked woman screaming as flames appeared to scorch her crotch.

Marcellus McRae, a former federal prosecutor in Los Angeles now in private practice, said it was a stretch by the defense to claim Valle was prosecuted for his thoughts because the jurors were required to find that he took one or more concrete steps to carry out the conspiracy.

"It's not just a thought crime. It's a thought-and-action crime and conviction," he said.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/nyc-j...ibal-plot-case

Not one thing worth bolding as the whole article is gold.

[Nephlite]

The article says two of them were fired.

Dodd started an internal affairs investigation which led to Cooley and Emmer being fired. Smith, one of the first responding officers, was not disciplined.

Good. Was no damn good reason for all that. The subject probably weighed about 120 pounds. Both of the officers were so jacked one of their arms was bigger around than him.

[Plow]

Heard about this cause I live in Tennessee. /sigh



http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2...-stun-guns-on/



Start watching at 15:00

I really hate the way videos like that make me rage so hard at both people.

The cops are absolutely insane in there, it's ridiculous, uncalled for, and they should be fired without even a delay to review and shit.

But, for fuck's sake, how do you take all that and still not just fucking say ok and roll over to get cuffed...


edit: holy shit I just got to where they're tazing the fuck out of him and it doesn't even bother him, what the hell

[Correction]

They should have just shot him to death like a 16 year old ranking blood gangmember.

[Odin'sLaw]

are they using flick action steel batons? fuck that's some scary shit (i have a feeling they was beating him so hard because of his race they look like the types :/)

[Eurell]

are they using flick action steel batons? fuck that's some scary shit (i have a feeling they was beating him so hard because of his race they look like the types :/)

Yeah I hate those sons of bitches that judge someone by what they look like.

[Moss]

Good. Was no damn good reason for all that. The subject probably weighed about 120 pounds. Both of the officers were so jacked one of their arms was bigger around than him.

dontcha know the best way to get someone to roll over is to beat the fuck out of their legs continuously

[Odin'sLaw]

Yeah I hate those sons of bitches that judge someone by what they look like.

inorite? 6'4 muscle bastards!

[Apeman]

Why don't the police simply grab him and forcibly roll him over in that video? At one point there are like 5 of them just standing there while one officer sits on him and punches him in the face. I think this video shows the fact that a lot of police officers have this inflated sense of power where they become offended and enraged when people don't follow their orders.

[hey]

Why don't the police simply grab him and forcibly roll him over in that video? At one point there are like 5 of them just standing there while one officer sits on him and punches him in the face. I think this video shows the fact that a lot of police officers have this inflated sense of power where they become offended and enraged when people don't follow their orders.

Well they did eventually, when they got tired of beating him.

[Nephlite]

Why don't the police simply grab him and forcibly roll him over in that video? At one point there are like 5 of them just standing there while one officer sits on him and punches him in the face. I think this video shows the fact that a lot of police officers have this inflated sense of power where they become offended and enraged when people don't follow their orders.

In my entire career I've (maybe) used my baton around 3-4 times. And in those instances it was one or two good shots to the outside of the thigh or one to the back of the calf to take the dudes legs out. Intermediate weapons (impact/less lethal/taser) usually come before a deadly force encounter and (with the exception of Tasers) are not very effective weapons to control people unless you know what you're doing. These two guys were just beating the dude just for the sake of it. And they can't even say their adrenaline was up because of the knife because one officer was quoted saying "I didn't even know he had the knife till after (the incident)." They always teach you in the academy "If something doesn't work, go to the next force option." so in the time they were there struggling with the guy, they went from hands on, to electronic control devices, to batons, to pepper spray, then back to batons, to fists, and finally they got the guy.

In this field, you're going to get in to a fight or two. In the end, all your training and experience may be for naught depending on the situation. I can see whacking a guy a dozen or so times in an incident if you're sitting there struggling with him for 30-45 minutes or an hour. Especially if the guy is bigger than you, he's using deadly force attacks against you, your own physical and mental exhaustion, etc. But from I could see this could have easily been remedied if they had just used a few arm control techniques and some leg control techniques. They weren't struggling with the guy pound for pound, they weren't getting beaten, kicked (maybe a few times but for the most part they were ontop of him), none of them were stabbed or wounded. It was just a straight brawl (on their part) and should have been stopped when first blood was drawn. And what the fuck with one guy just running in there, jumping on the dudes chest and punching him in the face? I counted two Sergeants and a Lieutenant as part of the group coming in. None of them stopped to think to get in there and pull the dude off?

[Chamaan]

The first like two or three minutes of that video reminds me of trying to change the diaper of a two year old that really doesn't want to get changed (minus the punches and baton smacks). Lots of flipping around and wiggling, soon as he get free he bolts screaming. He's even got kind of a toddler run in those tiny hallways... Sometimes I wish I had a baby-tazer.

=EDIT=
Oh lord, look at all those fuckin cops that show up. This is what happens when you send people to the police academy from Police Academy instead of the real one. They're so bad at their jobbbbsssssssss. The guy getting beaten must've had some kind of serious learning disability, but honestly he didn't deserve a beating like that. Should've gone to the mall and gotten a couple of kids coming out of Judo with their yellow belts to show them how to take that guy down.

[Tajin]

Stupid pigs in that video.

[Day]

[Moss]

I would rage so hard, holy shit. No idea how he didn't hit him.

[Outlaw]

Thing is I bet the cop was going the speed limit and trying to make a point by forcing others to do so. Still, he shouldn't be doing that.

[Tarage]

It's cool guys, you can cause accidents if you are a cop.

[Eurell]

Thing is I bet the cop was going the speed limit and trying to make a point by forcing others to do so. Still, he shouldn't be doing that.

If this were true, he probably would have pulled the guy over for speeding passed him. Not try to cause an accident.