Ridiculous Police News (Specific events)

[Blubbartron]

Worth pointing out that a fair bit of states actually do have stop and identify statutes (including Wisconsin, which annoys me greatly).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_and_identify_statutes

[Plow]

Worth pointing out that a fair bit of states actually do have stop and identify statutes (including Wisconsin, which annoys me greatly).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_and_identify_statutes

fortunately, unlike the insane stop and frisk shit in NY, that shit only applies if you're being detained, i.e. if they have reasonable suspicion to be fucking with you in the first place

[Blubbartron]

fortunately, unlike the insane stop and frisk shit in NY, that shit only applies if you're being detained, i.e. if they have reasonable suspicion to be fucking with you in the first place

That requires the pleasant interrogation of the cop in order to find out if you're actually being detained or if they're just fucking with you. And don't forget that cops lie all the time, willfully sometimes, but often ignorantly (e.g. "it's illegal to video tape an arrest, I'm taking your phone").

A normal person has no real way to tell the difference between actually being detained and a cop that's just a prick. The distinction between arrested and not arrested is obvious, but detained? That shit's all sorts of vague.

[Plow]

Am I free to go?


^ the one question they're not allowed to lie about

[Ashmada]

As someone who slightly bigger than the victim, who lives about ..20 blocks from there its kinda scary. Also, with my limited experience with american police I've noticed that I'm at a disadvantage due to my experience with Irish/English/any European police. I'm used to being able to challenge requests, or flat out deny talking to police if they came to my house. I was nearly arrested walking around the Loop in STL when I asked the officer why he wanted my ID.

A word of warning: if you come back to the EU, in some countries, including mine (Belgium), police is well within its rights to ask anyone 15 or over to identify oneself, and if you do not produce your ID card (or passport for foreigners), fine you.
That being said, ever since being issued my ID card (at age 12), I never had to use it except to file taxes online (so much more convenient than the old method) the past few years. Police has beer to guzzle, they don't have time to ID random people on the street.

[hey]

Am I free to go?


^ the one question they're not allowed to lie about

This. Should be the first thing you say to any cop who approaches you. If they say yes, leave.

[myreality]

http://rt.com/usa/cop-accorti-kittens-shooting-669/

Cop cleared of wrongdoing after shooting kittens in front of screaming kids

An Ohio policeman shot to death a litter of kittens on Wednesday, telling a group of screaming children that the animals would be going to “kitty heaven”. But instead of firing the officer, the local police department cleared him of any wrongdoing.

Humane Officer Barry Accorti was responding to a report of a litter of feral cats that were located in the woodpile of a home in North Ridgeville on June 10. The resident who made the call said the cats were bringing fleas to the home and leaving dead wildlife in her backyard. Twenty minutes after the call was made, the officer arrived at the scene. After spotting the five kittens, he told the resident’s distressed children that the cats would be going to heaven. Shortly thereafter, he took a gun from his vehicle and shot the animals to death.

“He informed [the resident] that shelters were full and that these cats would be going to kitty heaven,” Ohio SPCA Director Teresa Landon told the Cleveland Sun News. “She assumed he would be trapping them or something and taking them to a shelter and they would be humanely euthanized if they were not adopted.”

Initially, the woman who made the call assumed that the gun was a tranquilizer. But to her surprise, the 8-to-10 week-old kittens were shot dead, just 15 feet from the back door to her house.

“She was very distraught when this happened,” Landon said. “He started shooting them right in front of her. Her children were upstairs in view of the windows. They started screaming and crying because they heard the gunshots. They started screaming, ‘Mommy, he’s killing the kittens.’”

The homeowner’s four children are all between the ages of 5 months and 7 years.

Landon told the Sun News that the incident is heartbreaking and inexcusable, and that a humane officer should never resort to using a weapon unless the animal is in severe pain or attacking the officer.

Landon said that Accorti should be fired and charged with animal cruelty. But instead, Police Chief Mike Freeman cleared the officer of any wrongdoings and concluded that his actions were appropriate.

“After visiting the scene, talking with the responding officer and re-interviewing the complainant, I have decided his actions were appropriate and have decided not to impose any disciplinary measures for the incident,” Freeman wrote in a press release, describing the cats as having been “euthanized”. He also stated that research and animal organizations perceive shooting as a humane form of euthanasia. But Landon still believes the officer should be prosecuted

“The kittens were just sitting there,” she told The Morning Journal. “They didn’t have to die. They were only 10 months old at most and they still could have been socialized.”

[GoggleHead]

This is an Onion article, right? RIGHT?

[Ksandra]

FIRST THING IN THE MORNING. ;_;

[myreality]

^Sorry

[Rhinox]

That's fucked up.

[Plow]

Year old cats are not kittens.

Death by gun to the head is a lot better than the shit a feral cat is going to go through being introduced to a shelter and euthanized there instead.


He definitely should have warned the lady and made sure the kids wouldn't be watching.

[Plow]

And now I'm confused cuz at one point it says 8-10 weeks and at another it says 10 months.

[Melena]

Well, there goes my weekend.

[Rhinox]

In glad you cleared that up for us plow.


If only the department of corrections would become as enlightened as you we would save a lot of taxpayer money

[Ksandra]

Year old cats are not kittens.

Death by gun to the head is a lot better than the shit a feral cat is going to go through being introduced to a shelter and euthanized there instead.


He definitely should have warned the lady and made sure the kids wouldn't be watching.

feral cats work at disneyland. Could have brought them there.

Also, the owner referred to them as kittens, she probably doesn't know how old it takes before they become cats and was randomly guessing an age.

[Tajin]

:<

[archibaldcrane]

Lol. If they were rats, everyone would be high-fiving.

[Ksandra]

Lol. If they were rats, everyone would be high-fiving.

I used to have pet rats, so no. Not everyone.

[Niiro]

It's not so much that he killed a bunch of cats, it's more that he shot them in front of a bunch of kids. I can get why he did it, probably saved a bit of time and money on a few bullets rather than having to bring them all in and be euthanized at a shelter, but doing it in front of some kids is just fucked up.

If they had taken the cats in they would have been dead either way, sad but that's what shelters have to do. As far as being "humane", there's nothing inherently inhumane about shooting them. It's not pretty but as quick deaths go it's about as humane as it gets (assuming the person can aim). If he had taken them away and did this somewhere else it would have been fine really.