Ridiculous Police News (Specific events)

[Dimmauk]

For some people their pet is like a family member. This cop murdered the dog for fucking barking. You cant defend that. It was a god damn blue healer not a pit or rot. The worst that dog could do is bark till you get a headache.

[hey]

some of you must be cat people

I am. I fucking hate dogs.

[Day]

Yes it's unfortunate that this dog was shot but as a cop I imagine you don't have much time to gauge what's territorial behavior and what's potentially a dog ready to lash out in a hostile situation such as this. Even the most miniscule of breeds can act as a distraction long enough for the owner to get the upper hand in the situation and so it comes down to the judgement of the officer to decide if deadly force is justified.

As a cop wielding a weapon you have every reason to be able to asses a situation and gauge wtf is going on way beyond a normal civilian.

[Day]

Seems to me my life would have to be in serious danger before I fired my weapon, a dog barking at me because I'm a stranger is not a serious threat to my life.

[Greatguardian]

As a cop wielding a weapon you have every reason to be able to asses a situation and gauge wtf is going on way beyond a normal civilian.

And no matter what, you're forced to make a decision in the heat of the moment. Either way, you could lose big. If you shoot the dog and it wasn't going to kill you, you feel awful. If you don't shoot the dog and it was going to kill you or the owner kills you while you're dealing with it, you feel dead. There is no pause button.

That said, I'm all for developing phasers with stun settings so we don't have to defer to lethal force in order to defend ourselves.

[Eurell]

Seems to me my life would have to be in serious danger before I fired my weapon, a dog barking at me because I'm a stranger is not a serious threat to my life.

If it was just a braking dog and nothing else going on at all, you would be correct. When its a barking dog charging at you with the owner of said dog right there and believed to be violent, it's a different situation.

[Day]

Well the 2 officers that posted in this thread said they probably wouldn't have shot the dog/percieved it as much of threat, but I guess I'll take your word for it.

[Eurell]

Key word is probably. That doesn't mean this guy did the wrong thing.

[zoobernut]

So as a cop I'm supposed to assume that when a dog starts barking and acting in a territorial manner that it's just putting up an act and won't attack? Going into a potentially dangerous situation no less? Sounds like a recipe for a cop being on the wrong side of a maw full of teeth.

Then what?

Yes it's unfortunate that this dog was shot but as a cop I imagine you don't have much time to gauge what's territorial behavior and what's potentially a dog ready to lash out in a hostile situation such as this. Even the most miniscule of breeds can act as a distraction long enough for the owner to get the upper hand in the situation and so it comes down to the judgement of the officer to decide if deadly force is justified.

Just like a cop shouldn't charge into a house without figuring out what is going on and securing everything first a cop shouldn't charge up to someones property where there is a dog without making sure it is safe. The cop took an unnecessary risk and someones dog paid the price. When that happens the cop should own up to it and take responsibility.

Personally I think the cop was stupid as fuck for shooting the dog but that may have been the only decision the cop had at the moment or at least felt like that was the only decision he had that doesn't really matter to me because in the end it was a mistake to shoot the dog. When you carry a gun and use said gun if you make a decision that turns out to be a mistake you should have to face the consequences even if the decision seemed correct at the time right before you used your gun.

[Valisk]

For some people their pet is like a family member. This cop murdered the dog for fucking barking. You cant defend that. It was a god damn blue healer not a pit or rot. The worst that dog could do is bark till you get a headache.

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[Chun Liroy]

So as a cop I'm supposed to assume that when a dog starts barking and acting in a territorial manner that it's just putting up an act and won't attack? Going into a potentially dangerous situation no less? Sounds like a recipe for a cop being on the wrong side of a maw full of teeth.

Then what?

Yes it's unfortunate that this dog was shot but as a cop I imagine you don't have much time to gauge what's territorial behavior and what's potentially a dog ready to lash out in a hostile situation such as this. Even the most miniscule of breeds can act as a distraction long enough for the owner to get the upper hand in the situation and so it comes down to the judgement of the officer to decide if deadly force is justified.

So someone's teacup poodle might as well be shot before it yips you to death, right?

[Valisk]

So someone's teacup poodle might as well be shot before it yips you to death, right?

Some of you aren't even being logical about this. It's one thing to have opposing opinions, I'm fine with and encourage this, it's another to start comparing this dog to black children with skittles and poodles. If the dog was Chihuahua, I think the situation would have been handled differently and the officer wouldn't have felt threatened. The dog wasn't just chilling, barking from the porch like some of you are making it seem.

[Melena]

Correct me if I am wrong but shouldn't the cop have avoided putting himself into that situation in the first place? Why was he alone answering a domestic disturbance call with a potentially violent dangerous man? Why did he charge in right away without surveying the situation which would have given the homeowner time to secure his dog?

The way the article reads (in addition to others) the cop put himself into a dangerous situation and someone else suffered as a result of his fuck up and the dispatchers fuck up.

But who knows it is rather irrelevant until more evidence is presented showing what the situation was actually like because honestly I am not inclined to believe either the guy or the cop because they both have so much at stake so their accounts of the situation are going to be clouded.

Depends on staffing and if anyone was available to assist. Depending on the day, time staffing he could have had to sit there for a while for backup to show and if it's a domestic violence case, do you really want to be sitting in your car twiddling your thumbs waiting for someone else to show up.

[Niiro]

Just like a cop shouldn't charge into a house without figuring out what is going on and securing everything first a cop shouldn't charge up to someones property where there is a dog without making sure it is safe. The cop took an unnecessary risk and someones dog paid the price. When that happens the cop should own up to it and take responsibility.

Personally I think the cop was stupid as fuck for shooting the dog but that may have been the only decision the cop had at the moment or at least felt like that was the only decision he had that doesn't really matter to me because in the end it was a mistake to shoot the dog. When you carry a gun and use said gun if you make a decision that turns out to be a mistake you should have to face the consequences even if the decision seemed correct at the time right before you used your gun.

Did you even read the OP?

Stupid question, I know.

Did you expect him to park a block away, jump a few fences, hide in the neighbors bushes and case the joint with binoculars before approaching the property?

"Charging the place" = walking up the driveway towards the house. Also he should have stood at the property line and shouted "DO YOU HAVE A DOG ALSO ARE YOU CURRENTLY BEATING YOUR WIFE CAUSE IF SO IT'S COOL I CAN COME BACK LATER".

[Chun Liroy]

Some of you aren't even being logical about this. It's one thing to have opposing opinions, I'm fine with and encourage this, it's another to start comparing this dog to black children with skittles and poodles. If the dog was Chihuahua, I think the situation would have been handled differently and the officer wouldn't have felt threatened. I also don't think the dog was just chilling, barking from the porch like some of you are making it seem.

He said the most miniscule of breeds. How the hell am I not being logical about this, HE BROUGHT IT UP.

[Dimmauk]

Seriously that cop is a hero for putting down ferocious blue healer. I'm not surprised the cops in this thread are defending their fellow officer. Even though it makes them look like horrible people, it takes alot of blind loyalty to the shield to defend killing someones family member for making loud noises.

[hey]

The dog wasn't just chilling, barking from the porch like some of you are making it seem.

Obviously it ran towards him. That's what dogs do.

[Greatguardian]

He said the most miniscule of breeds. How the hell am I not being logical about this, HE BROUGHT IT UP.

Don't be retarded. He mentioned small breeds because the owner is capable of killing you while you're dealing with the dog, not because the teacup poodle itself can kill you.

[Dimmauk]

What are the statistics on how many people are mauled by cattle dogs.

[Eurell]

Seriously that cop is a hero for putting down ferocious blue healer. I'm not surprised the cops in this thread are defending their fellow officer. Even though it makes them look like horrible people, it takes alot of blind loyalty to the shield to defend killing someones family member for making loud noises.

We get it, you hate cops. Noone fucking cares. You are willfully being ignorant here.