Ridiculous Police News (Specific events)

[Salodin]

You need to watch the video.

[Rhinox]

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/...ent_about.html

update to the story

[Nephlite]

Video cuts in just after the questions started. I wanna hear the story before they started the video. Dunno what the precipitating event was to have the officer arrest the guy but that's all just procedural.

[Callisto]

Some pretty lol parts:

The Sheriff's Office said the deputy did inform Breaux that he was under arrest for resisting an officer. But Breaux can be heard several times in the video asking why he was being taken into custody.

So the officer begins arresting him, he resists that arrest, and the grounds for the arrest is that he resisted the arrest?

[Blubbartron]

So the officer begins arresting him, he resists that arrest, and the grounds for the arrest is that he resisted the arrest?

There's that part, and also the suggestion that he "refused to provide ID" even though he was going into the house to get it (supposedly - and at least partially backed up by the first 5 seconds of the video). Maybe, *maybe* the cop was worried by him closing the door that he was going to make a run for it out a back door or something, and being an old fart he obviously wasn't in the mood for a foot chase. Just easier to abuse authority.

Regardless, reading the article, I really hate how detached from reality that lawyer is (as well as most people). When cops are abusing their authority, you should never be violent, but resisting their abuses is the right thing to do. Not all people have the ability to litigate, and litigation is no guarantee that their life won't be ruined or significantly impaired by whatever trumped up charges the cops throw at them (for instance, in this case, battery of a police officer and resisting an arrest with violence - both of those are bullshit charges as evidenced by the video). Simply having an arrest record can make it more difficult (or impossible, in some cases) to get a job. The best thing you can do is draw attention to the situation and get it recorded. The more witnesses and the more evidence you have that the cops fucked up and you handled yourself calmly (especially when justifiably scared by a man with a gun), the better off you'll be.

[jmc]

There's that part, and also the suggestion that he "refused to provide ID" even though he was going into the house to get it (supposedly - and at least partially backed up by the first 5 seconds of the video). Maybe, *maybe* the cop was worried by him closing the door that he was going to make a run for it out a back door or something, and being an old fart he obviously wasn't in the mood for a foot chase. Just easier to abuse authority.

Huge red flag if your trying to investigate, and the person needs to shut the door on you. Are they ducking out the rear door? Hiding something? Getting a weapon?

Why would someone need to shut the door, just to go and get a ID? (well, minus pets getting out)

[Niiro]

Because they don't want some asshole cop invading their privacy?

[jmc]

Need to know exactly what happened before the video started before claiming it was a invasion of privacy. Two different stories will make that impossible to figure out

[hey]

Huge red flag if your trying to investigate, and the person needs to shut the door on you. Are they ducking out the rear door? Hiding something? Getting a weapon?

Why would someone need to shut the door, just to go and get a ID? (well, minus pets getting out)

How is that a red flag? Who the heck leaves their door open when they're not going in or out? It's still practically winter. Isn't that enough of a reason? Or how about so the cop can't just barge in (like idk, how he clearly did in the video)? Closing your door seems like a really obvious thing to do.

[jmc]

How is that a red flag? Who the heck leaves their door open when they're not going in or out? It's still practically winter. Isn't that enough of a reason? Or how about so the cop can't just barge in (like idk, how he clearly did in the video)? Closing your door seems like a really obvious thing to do.

Not when a officer is trying to investigate a incident its not OK, even more when he is asking for someone's ID.

Depending on the situation, if the person asked if he was being detained its possible the answer would be yes. That's why it would be good to know exactly what happened before the camera rolled, if he was being detained for something we don't know about then everything the officer did on camera is OK.

If the male was not being detained per a investigation, then the officer forcing his way in wouldn't be OK.

[hey]

Not when a officer is trying to investigate a incident its not OK, even more when he is asking for someone's ID.

Depending on the situation, if the person asked if he was being detained its possible the answer would be yes. That's why it would be good to know exactly what happened before the camera rolled, if he was being detained for something we don't know about then everything the officer did on camera is OK.

If the male was not being detained per a investigation, then the officer forcing his way in wouldn't be OK.

If he was being detained why would the officer have let him go back inside in the first place? If he's not, then he has every right to close the door.

[jmc]

If he was being detained why would the officer have let him go back inside in the first place? If he's not, then he has every right to close the door.

Just another thing we will probably never know, since both sides are gonna have different stories sadly.

[Rhinox]

Just to clarify LA is not a show ID state. Just need to provide information.

[jmc]

Just to clarify LA is not a show ID state. Just need to provide information.

Well then..... I got nothing

[Nephlite]

If he was being detained why would the officer have let him go back inside in the first place? If he's not, then he has every right to close the door.

If he said "I don't have it." and went back inside to get the I.D. on a sudden impulse, then that's probably when the officer went to act and either told him not to or attempted to physically restrain him and the struggle ensued. I'd usually say "No that's okay just stay here so we can talk." and just ran him with verbal information. I wouldn't have let the guy go inside either and most of the time if I do, I'll tell them to keep the door open. It does seem reasonable to close the door given the circumstances which is why I can't say weather or not the officer overreacted as there's nothing before the camera started rolling. If he jumped the gun and decided to "Fuck you I'm going inside." then I'd have grabbed him too. I don't believe it was a simple "I think I might have it inside." story. Sorry, I don't trust people.

Just to clarify LA is not a show ID state. Just need to provide information.

Even during a crime? In D.C. there's nothing that says you're supposed to carry I.D. but you have to identify yourself when requested.

[hey]

If he said "I don't have it." and went back inside to get the I.D. on a sudden impulse, then that's probably when the officer went to act and either told him not to or attempted to physically restrain him and the struggle ensued. I'd usually say "No that's okay just stay here so we can talk." and just ran him with verbal information. I wouldn't have let the guy go inside either and most of the time if I do, I'll tell them to keep the door open. It does seem reasonable to close the door given the circumstances which is why I can't say weather or not the officer overreacted as there's nothing before the camera started rolling. If he jumped the gun and decided to "Fuck you I'm going inside." then I'd have grabbed him too. I don't believe it was a simple "I think I might have it inside." story. Sorry, I don't trust people.

Exactly. Either he's free to close the door, or you wouldn't have let him go inside at all. Either way, he did something wrong.

Even during a crime? In D.C. there's nothing that says you're supposed to carry I.D. but you have to identify yourself when requested.

He may have been required to identify himself (not sure the law there), but he wouldn't have been required to show id to prove it. Some places require you to show ID when requested, others require you to give your name, but you don't have to show id, and others you don't have to do either, i think. Sometimes there are different rules during an investigation.

[Ksandra]

Not in the US, but I would say this is the epitome of ridiculous police news:

http://www.wibw.com/home/headlines/P...l?device=phone

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (CNN) -- A 9-month-old Pakistani boy bawled as he was fingerprinted and booked in Lahore on an attempted murder charge after his family members allegedly threw bricks at police trying to collect an unpaid bill.

The ordeal started February 1 when several police officers and a bailiff went to a home hoping to get payment for a gas bill, said Atif Zulfikar Butt, a senior police official in Lahore.

A scuffle ensued, during which the infant's father, one of his teenage sons and others in the residence severely injured some of the officials by tossing bricks their way, according to Butt.

That led authorities to seek out those in the house. An official document aired by CNN affiliate GEO News shows charges of stoning and attempted murder.

How and why the baby was implicated was unclear, though the Lahore police official acknowledged that the child appeared in court Wednesday and was booked as his grandfather held him.

"The police filed a wrong, false arrest charge sheet and brought this innocent 9-month-old into this court room for an appearance," the family's lawyer, Irfan Tarar, said.

Following media coverage of the incident, Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif directed police to immediately suspend a Pakistani official for registering the case against the baby boy, according to police.

CNN's attempts to contact the family members were not successful.

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was the 9 month old in an aggressive stance?

[jmc]

was the 9 month old in an aggressive stance?

He squared off against a officer, with a Lego brick in his hand.

[Raldo]

I bet the kid threw a shoe at the police when they checked out the house.