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    I've just been taking it easy and taking 600mg's of Ibuprofen every 5ish hours (Grandpa is a Dr....he insists on ibuprofen all the time..). It's helping, the pain isn't as significant and my range of motion is very slowly coming back.....I was actually able to sleep last night which was wonderful.

    Still called into to work, though, I think one more day would be good.

    I've tried "alternative medicine" once. I tried acupuncture and absolutely hated it. Didn't help at all, I have a hard time bringing myself to believe in that type of stuff.

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    Go get a massage. A masseuse will be able to work on loosening up the tight muscles but they are not aggressive like chiropractors tend to be. Either that or tough it out and it will go away slowly over time. And get a better pillow a bad pillow can cause a stiff neck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denchi View Post
    I've just been taking it easy and taking 600mg's of Ibuprofen every 5ish hours (Grandpa is a Dr....he insists on ibuprofen all the time..). It's helping, the pain isn't as significant and my range of motion is very slowly coming back.....I was actually able to sleep last night which was wonderful.

    Still called into to work, though, I think one more day would be good.

    I've tried "alternative medicine" once. I tried acupuncture and absolutely hated it. Didn't help at all, I have a hard time bringing myself to believe in that type of stuff.
    acupuncture does not work from once or even just a few times. you have to give it about a month of constant therapy for it to work (2-3 times a week depending on which kind of acupuncture clinic you are at). I've had it work for some things and not work for others. It definitely has an effect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pirian View Post
    respectable chiropractor
    oxymoron

    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11 View Post
    acupuncture does not work from once or even just a few times. you have to give it about a month of constant therapy for it to work (2-3 times a week depending on which kind of acupuncture clinic you are at). I've had it work for some things and not work for others. It definitely has an effect
    placebo.


    Do not fall for quackery. That includes chiropractic, accupuncture, accupressure, any massage therapist with "chi" "reiki" "life force" etc in their vocabulary, naturopathy, homeopathy, rolfing, applied kinesiology, and about a dozen hundred other brands of bullshit. Go see a real medical doctor, who will probably recommend physical therapy. Massage can be nice, as long as it's straight-up normal massage that doesn't make mystical/paranormal claims about energy and then try to sell you $40 MLM juice on your way out.

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    I was extremely skeptical when I first went in. I've had undiagnosed joint pain since I was 12 - been to about 6 doctors, had every test done (bone scans, xrays, "here stand on your head while holding this pancake," etc). No prescription or therapy has ever been successful in limiting the pain when I do any kind of physical activity. My woman had me try acupuncture for the first time about 6 months ago (she was a big believer, I was an lol'er). I don't know what to say other than it can work for you. Since I started doing it and had them focus on my joint pain + tiredness, I've never slept better and I can physically do much more than I have been able to in a long time. After living with the pain for over 10 years and it suddenly decreasing about 2 months after acupuncture (which was almost exactly how long they said it would take before i felt any relief from it), I'm a believer.

    It hasn't been disproven or proven to work and I think it's definitely worth trying. I haven't seen any improvements in my appetite (something I want to improve) or my shoulder pain, so it probably won't work for everything one might have. Dismissing it outright when many, many people have seen a considerable amount of relief is silly. And hell, even if it doesn't work, I get an hour nap twice a week that is pretty much the best thing ever (warm room, blankets, recliner, soft noises, dimly lit). Relaxing as fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberoz View Post
    oxymoron
    http://www.kiropraktiikka.org/files/...Apr%202011.pdf

    CONCLUSION
    After controlling for demographic factors and multiple severity
    indicators, patients suffering nonspecific work-related LBP who
    received health services mostly or only from a chiropractor had a
    lower risk of recurrent disability than the risk of any other provider
    type. Even without an improvement in days until recurrent disability,
    our findings seem to support the use of chiropractor services,
    as chiropractor services generally cost less than services from other
    providers. If a lower rate of disability recurrence in work-related
    LBP cases for chiropractors holds as true, it is important to identify
    the mechanism of action.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21334541

    CONCLUSIONS:

    By adopting the NCQA BPRP as an SCP, training physicians in this SCP, and using a back pain classification, Jordan Hospital Spine Care demonstrated the quality and value of care rendered to a population of patients. This was accomplished with a relatively low cost and with high patient satisfaction.

    http://www.webmd.com/pain-management...rgeries-x-rays

    Chiropractic care cut the cost of treating back pain by 28%.
    Chiropractic care reduced hospitalizations among back pain patients by 41%.
    Chiropractic care reduced back surgeries by 32%.
    Chiropractic care reduced the cost of medical imaging, such as X-rays or MRIs, by 37%.
    But yes, all chiropractics is quackery that is not supported by science. There is no science here. Nope. None. Why are you still reading this?

    The truth is that people like kerb have made up their mind and only look at the evidence that supports their opinion. He's no better than many of the people he justly makes fun of. Well, that is, if he keeps his opinion the same in the face of science.

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    "The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool."

    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11 View Post
    I was extremely skeptical

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pirian View Post
    stuff
    That's nice. Now how does it compare against placebo administered by someone asking how your day went in a friendly soothing voice while taking your money?

    http://whatstheharm.net/chiropractic.html disclaimer: anecdotes are not evidence. This link contains stories that are just as useful as stories of it working. That is, not at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerberoz View Post
    That's nice. Now how does it compare against placebo administered by someone asking how your day went in a friendly soothing voice while taking your money?

    http://whatstheharm.net/chiropractic.html disclaimer: anecdotes are not evidence. This link contains stories that are just as useful as stories of it working. That is, not at all.
    You realize the first 2 things I quoted are actual peer reviewed medical studies, right? Here, have some more science:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15129198

    CONCLUSION:

    Study findings were consistent with systematic reviews of the efficacy of spinal manipulation for pain and disability in acute and chronic LBP. Patient choice and interdisciplinary referral should be prime considerations by physicians, policymakers, and third-party payers in identifying health services for patients with LBP.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12020139

    CONCLUSION:

    In daily practice, manual therapy is a favorable treatment option for patients with neck pain compared with physical therapy or continued care by a general practitioner.

    Keep being a tool

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