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  1. #361
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    I don't see the big deal about gear score for healers. I play mystic with bought accessories, and quest golds. Healed through baldurs just fine a few times. Mystics heals aren't really determined by gear so much as priest so maybe thats it. Crystals are specialty store bought mp regen crystals. Today a party member did comment on my gear but i keep the BT clear title on so they let it go and we did fine only death was due to green boss landing on melee, and knocking them into trees. Granted i will have a full set of enigmatic eventually wheter AH or Dropped just been spending my money buying my statics lancer gear first and bad luck in the drop department.

  2. #362
    Mithra Ero-Sensei
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meresgi View Post
    Mobs outside of Habere, one wound up his axe and I didn't notice it, next thing I know i'm lacking a crystal and back in town. Was only a lvl 57 normal mob too.
    Named mobs, or mobs with a 2nd row of text (say general of so and so) hit extra hard... if ya thought a Lv56-57 normal mob hits hard, those things hit rape O_o

    Also, don't think gear score really matters.

    Its somewhere between... their weapon, gems and how well they play. (namely how well they play)
    Having 20,000g in +9 gear with Hardmode earrings and socket rings, but dying constantly and or being hit constantly by bosses... is kinda ;/

  3. #363
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulkeeva View Post
    Named mobs, or mobs with a 2nd row of text (say general of so and so) hit extra hard... if ya thought a Lv56-57 normal mob hits hard, those things hit rape O_o
    Yeah these were just regular ones, and yeah those damn named guys for quests bitch slap you hard, Thankfully I can do shadowclone jutsu.

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    Mithra Ero-Sensei
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meresgi View Post
    Yeah these were just regular ones, and yeah those damn named guys for quests bitch slap you hard, Thankfully I can do shadowclone jutsu.
    ah.. now that ya mention it there are.. a certain type of "super big normal mobs", they have like what 200K hp? I remember a few lv 56-57 kinds fighting a few on my zerker and man, they hit like 4K on plate.. was like holy crap o_O

    oh and theirs this one mob with an axe... his charged attack hits like 10-15K on plate too if it hits, (and theirs a quest to fight a named one (and he's paired with another hard hitting mob), that guys hit was near 25K if it hit, not even a crit)

    Lv 56-57 mobs, are seriously harsh compared to the argon lv 58-60 mobs for sure...

  5. #365
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    Interesting thread regarding damage taken: http://tera-forums.enmasse.com/forum...bs-than-others

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    That definitely is an interesting thread. I really would like to see how that plays out versus "normal" mobs inside instances though. Seeing everything is considered a "Party Monster" inside, it would stand to reason that everything would do the "boss monster" damage in instances, and this damage difference is just there to make leveling/questing easier for those squishier classes.

  7. #367
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    That data matches up to why every bot, in KTERA, was a priest. Add in the -% normal mob damage crystals, and it was no wonder they could walk away from multiple monsters hitting on them.

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    I'm only level 28 but that (might) explains why when doing dungeons if I magically drop suddenly, the whole party is fine without me. haha

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    Not an overly big deal, but I do find it annoying at times that when a normal mob gets low on health, they'll turn tail and try to run away.

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    Those big cocoon BAMs annoy me with that, trying to slouch away at low health so they can reset. I suppose I'd try to run away IRL as well, but I don't have some magical range where I can disengage from the fight and regain all my HP instantly.

    Then again, I don't have HP...

  11. #371
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    Good post for the damage thread, interesting stuff.

    Another thing I noticed was that merely casting Fireblast seems to pull a decent amount of hate. A couple friends (WAR SORC SORC) and I were trioing some elites and I'd pull hate about half the time simply by starting to cast Fireblast. Obviously not scientific testing, but I thought I'd share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anakron View Post
    Good post for the damage thread, interesting stuff.

    Another thing I noticed was that merely casting Fireblast seems to pull a decent amount of hate. A couple friends (WAR SORC SORC) and I were trioing some elites and I'd pull hate about half the time simply by starting to cast Fireblast. Obviously not scientific testing, but I thought I'd share.
    When I'm running around questing with Spd on my sorc, I'll pull threat on whatever he's fighting when I start casting fireblast on a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT set of mobs no where near what he's fighting. It's fairly entertaining.

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    It totally makes sense. Kill the caster first. Combo with the healer agro and running away at low health. I love mob intelligence.

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    It's highly annoying when their AI starts acting like it knows what you're going to do, so all of your spells miss the mark.

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    Lol@Lancers who leave because the warrior is doing your job, and doing it better.

    Mid instance/boss fight too lmao.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kachiko View Post
    It's highly annoying when their AI starts acting like it knows what you're going to do, so all of your spells miss the mark.
    This. Definitely fuck this. Was fighting the first fane boss a few days ago and he seemed to conveniently do one of his fly-across-the-map moves every time I threw a void pulse or fireblast his way. And I won't even get into the end bosses in Fane/Balders (sup aoe leash).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chun Liroy View Post
    Lol@Lancers who leave because the warrior is doing your job, and doing it better.

    Mid instance/boss fight too lmao.
    When you stole threat off me as we were fighting them antlions I welcomed that. Gave me time to get some MP back before I retaunted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stig View Post
    When you stole threat off me as we were fighting them antlions I welcomed that. Gave me time to get some MP back before I retaunted.
    Yeah, I was on the second boss in SA, the thing was pretty much running around the entire time not allowing anyone to DD. Popped defensive stance and pulled aggro and held it in place. The whole time the lancer was spamming in chat "Why are you in defensive stance" etc. then finally "Fine, 13 can tank" Dropped party. Ofc. we got the lancer Bind on Pickup item from the last boss.

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    Mweh, I seriously hate anal people like that.

    So narrowminded. If it's entirely possible, would it hurt so much to get them do it if there's no downside? It's like this in WoW, when infact it's possible to do just as good if you understand the game well enough (in this example, I tank hard mode bosses using DPS gear with little to no degradation). Because you're tank, YOU MUST BE IN TANK GEAR AND NOTHING ELSE.

    Kind of like SAM/NIN tanks with Seigan/3rd Eye or WHM melee.... I understand the situation isn't always ideal but if something is possible and can be done, eh, why not. You were just trying to help your party in SA.

    Wait until (lol) I show you all what lancer DPS is capable of!!!!

    I'm very much aware this is impossible after seeing how fast a Warrior/Slayer the same level as me plow through quest mobs. But it was a figure of speech.

    Also, I thought all boss drops are Bind on Equip (so far for me anyway). Didn't realise there would be BoP later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Stig View Post
    Also, I thought all boss drops are Bind on Equip (so far for me anyway). Didn't realise there would be BoP later.
    I got 2 items from the level 45 instance (Sigil?) and both told me when I rolled that they would bind on pickup, not on equip. I got both of them because one was cloth feet (I was the only mage) and the other was a scepter (I was on Mystic). That's the first time I've seen it happen, haven't had a chance to lot on anything in any later instances yet, so I'm not sure yet how those later ones work.

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