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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    (and I've only done one black show lol heady)
    once you go black you never go back

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    Some of the arts programs (I will focus on Architecture because that is me currently) do require intense work that is sustained and flourished in the studio/college environment. You cannot learn this stuff on the internet. The best you can learn (in architecture) is drafting skills and basic construction. The four (and five) year program in architectural design (BAAS and B.Arch), for one, are required to advance in the architectural field. Most companies may hire you if you have one of these, but recent developments in the architectural accrediting board require all people that wish to become licensed to acquire an M.Arch.

    So, if you want engineers to take control of architecture, then you can expect the bullshit that was attempted in the 40's and 50's with CIAM as well as Robert Moses. Most architects have started to take over the urban planning field because engineers/planners have focused their attention on efficient design and not humanistic design. Just take a look at Brasilia, Brazil for a grand example of that kind of planning. Civic art is integral to society, but unfortunately this economy does not cater to this field.

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    Civic art is important to society, and good civic art requires exceptional designers and patrons who require these advanced degrees (arguments can be made for the non-high arts, however).

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyven View Post
    i feel like your avatar is not symmetrical and it is driving me insane.
    You're probably right. Lol. I'll see if I can adjust it.
    For viewers sake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venga View Post
    Couldn't agree more with the pain in the ass thing. I have a month to go until i finish my third and final year in a graphic design degree. It's been fun but aged me by 30 years.

    You are certainly right about how most employers aren't fussed about the degree and focus on the portfolio, however the main point of the degree is to build up a portfolio. In addition continuos feed back helps to develop work and ideas that you yourself would struggle to do. Also the constant deadlines force you to do work (which i should probably be doing instead of surfing bg.....). You could argue that a self motivated person could set their own deadlines outside of a degree, that is true.

    One thing degree does encourage is the interaction within other people focusing around work.

    I don't think its "have a degree or forget it", but i do think they can help, despite the ridiculous fees we have to pay in the UK.
    Rediculous fees in the U.S. too. ;;
    And I'm not saying degrees are worthless. Just that they aren't a "must have" for portfolio based jobs.
    I'm not totally against getting at least an associates.. but the cost to get it is deterring. Not to mention I hate math classes! @$%$^&@#$$! :explodes:

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    Come do it in Canada.

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    Commercial arts is pretty high because job placement is usually 99% based on your body of work and past-client list, not a degree. I hold a bachelor's degree in photography, but the only weight it carries in my industry whatsoever is the reputation my fellow alumni have set before me. Not gonna' lie, I have some regrets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrGonzo View Post
    Im surprised Psychology isn't on there.

    That being said, I have a BA in psychology, but do media production for Marketing. Completely fucking useless degree...
    It's well known if you want to actually work in Psych you go to grad school with it. It's not a useless degree because of that fact.

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    Looking at the list of "useful" majors vs "useless" the rate to hire isn't as different as you would wish it would be -- finding a job regardless of major isn't easy. The salaries do show a discrete difference.

    I think the main difference is that for the arts a lot of importance is placed on who you know and your skills/past experience (portfolio). The piece of paper saying you have a degree in X really can take a back seat. Also, yes.. you typically need a PHD or a masters for the arts, where its much easier to get a job as a Bachelor of Science.

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    The thing is, while the rewarded piece of paper (degree) for an arts education is not worth much, the education itself is invaluable... so this list is pretty irrelevant. Except for philosophy, because that's genuinely worthless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palin View Post
    It's well known if you want to actually work in Psych you go to grad school with it. It's not a useless degree because of that fact.
    This.
    My undergraduate Psychology degree is a BSc. I am now pursuing a PhD exploring objective and subjective measures of fidelity and presence in virtual reality, thanks to an industrial sponsorship from Jaguar-LandRover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkster View Post
    Kinesiology/Physiology, to become a Sports Medicine Doctor/Professional Personal Trainer.
    Any major can go to med school though, just need prerequisites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkster View Post
    Kinesiology/Physiology, to become a Sports Medicine Doctor/Professional Personal Trainer.
    So you're studying to have a license that allows you to inspect the bodies of male athletes?

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    Obvious cover story for naughtier intentions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miokomioko View Post
    The thing is, while the rewarded piece of paper (degree) for an arts education is not worth much, the education itself is invaluable... so this list is pretty irrelevant. Except for philosophy, because that's genuinely worthless.
    I think the pursuit of Philosophy is just fine... BUT I personally find most of the material that's out there and 9/10 of the people who study it to be extremely pretentious. They should make a "13 most douche-baggy majors" list and put Philosophy at number one, followed by Political Science and then Business.

    Edit: I enjoy hearing Poli Sci kids saying "I want to be a politician" and hearing business majors declare "I chose this major because I wanted to make a lot of money." Faggocity at its finest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uryuu View Post
    I think the pursuit of Philosophy is just fine... BUT I personally find most of the material that's out there and 9/10 of the people who study it to be extremely pretentious. They should make a "13 most douche-baggy majors" list and put Philosophy at number one, followed by Political Science and then Business.

    Edit: I enjoy hearing Poli Sci kids saying "I want to be a politician" and hearing business majors declare "I chose this major because I wanted to make a lot of money." Faggocity at its finest.
    Business is a good choice for someone who doesn't know what they want to do though. Everything runs on business.

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    Like I said before, you can attend a university and study a subject without limiting yourself to a degree in that subject. Best of both worlds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavencloud View Post
    Business is a good choice for someone who doesn't know what they want to do though. Everything runs on business.
    Definitely agree. This is why I'll be doing a JD+MBA program when I get to law school.

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    MBA rolls into everything and is easy to get. Shit will be mandatory in a couple decades.

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    MBA was one of the degrees I got; shit is piss easy.
    PS. Fuck finance classes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya View Post
    So you're studying to have a license that allows you to inspect the bodies of male athletes?
    Hot, rich male athletes to become a boyfriend on the side. I'm ok with this.

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