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    Mexican Immigration Comes To Standstill

    Net Mexican immigration to the United States has slowed to a standstill, according to a report released Monday. The number of immigrants coming from Mexico to the United States has steeply declined while the number of Mexicans leaving the United States has increased sharply, the Pew Hispanic Center said.
    "These developments represent a notable reversal of the historic pattern of Mexican immigration to the U.S., which has risen dramatically over the past four decades," the center's report says.
    Many factors are probably behind the trend, the report said, including rising deportations, greater enforcement at the border, growing dangers associated with border crossings, the weakened U.S. job market and a long-term decline in Mexico's birth rates.
    The 1.37 million Mexican immigrants who came to the United States between 2005 and 2010 was about half the number who immigrated during previous five-year periods, according to the analysis, which was based on national population surveys in the United States and Mexico.

    Meanwhile, from 2005 to 2010, 1.39 million Mexicans and their families left the U.S. to return to Mexico, the report says. That's more than double the number of people who did it during a five-year period the decade before, the report says.
    The report also notes, citing figures from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, that the number of Mexicans apprehended trying to cross the border illegally has plummeted in recent years, from more than 1 million in 2005 to 286,000 in 2011.
    While analysts said for years that immigration from Mexico to the United States was dwindling, the Pew report says 2010 Mexican census data offer some of the first "hard evidence that flows back to Mexico had grown over the same period."
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    It's sad when the people in a country with living conditions realize they're better off where they're at.

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    Anyone more knowledgeable than me think this'll affect certain types of produce?

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    There are already cases in Georgia of plants rotting on the vine since there is nobody wanting to work a harvesting job iirc.

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    YOU CAN HAVE UR JURBS!

    First obama defeats racism and now immigration!

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    Now people have another thing to blame Obama for.

    POOR IMMIGRANTS CAN'T FIND WORK BECAUSE OF OBAMA HE NEEDS TO LET THEM PICK OUR VEGETABLES AND CLEAN OUR HOUSES!

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    It wasn't sad when eastern European immigration came to a "standstill", it wasn't sad when Canadian immigration came to a "standstill", and it isn't sad that Mexican immigration has come to a "standstill" (I put all these in quotations, because there is still immigration coming from all these areas, it's just either immigration/emigration neutral or deficit [there aren't many places we are a immigration/emigration deficit, though]). All this means is that we will start receiving more immigration from another area. We should be happy that our neighbor to the south is doing well enough that its citizens are not literally fleeing! Even if that is because the US is doing "worse"

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    Mexicans would rather risk losing body parts than stay in America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimmauk View Post
    Mexicans would rather risk losing body parts than stay in America.
    GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pirian View Post
    It wasn't sad when eastern European immigration came to a "standstill", it wasn't sad when Canadian immigration came to a "standstill", and it isn't sad that Mexican immigration has come to a "standstill" (I put all these in quotations, because there is still immigration coming from all these areas, it's just either immigration/emigration neutral or deficit [there aren't many places we are a immigration/emigration deficit, though]). All this means is that we will start receiving more immigration from another area. We should be happy that our neighbor to the south is doing well enough that its citizens are not literally fleeing! Even if that is because the US is doing "worse"
    If this is because Mexico is an awesome place, then it is great news.

    If on the other hand, it's more because the us just sucks that bad, then it's terrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyven View Post
    GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM
    I DID! I MOVED BACK TO SAN ANTONIO A COUPLE YEARS AGO.

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    I think we're pushing the limits of the definition of shocking there.


    Unless it was a pun on tazing, if so, well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hey View Post
    If this is because Mexico is an awesome place, then it is great news.

    If on the other hand, it's more because the us just sucks that bad, then it's terrible.
    It's not because "Mexico is an awesome place", it is because the cost of moving now outweighs the benefit. This is due in part to better employment/wages in Mexico (the average wage has actually gone down due to the abundance of cheap labor over seas, but there are more of those jobs so the average still goes up), probably due in part to less drug related violence (I'm purely making this assumption, but it's based on the fact that it's been a while since the last major news story about it, but that isn't really reliable), and some would argue that it is also due in part to tougher illegal immigration laws/enforcement in the US, finally, it is due in part to the slowdown in the US economy and mainly in construction related jobs.

    You make it seem like these people dream of nothing but coming to the US. Mexico is their home, and even if life is shitty, it's still their home, and it's still the life they know. You have to have a REALLY bad life to leave your family (especially in a country like Mexico that is very heavy on family), so should it be that surprising that they would want to stay where they were born?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pirian View Post
    It's not because "Mexico is an awesome place", it is because the cost of moving now outweighs the benefit. This is due in part to better employment/wages in Mexico (the average wage has actually gone down due to the abundance of cheap labor over seas, but there are more of those jobs so the average still goes up), probably due in part to less drug related violence (I'm purely making this assumption, but it's based on the fact that it's been a while since the last major news story about it, but that isn't really reliable), and some would argue that it is also due in part to tougher illegal immigration laws/enforcement in the US, finally, it is due in part to the slowdown in the US economy and mainly in construction related jobs.
    So basically the US has gotten so much worse that they're better off staying in mexico.

    Sounds like a terrible thing to me.

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    i am guessing you don't speak Spanish? sucks brah...

    but in reality it has to do with all the factors stated above.

    my parents told me when they crossed over 30yrs ago it was easy as cake, but since the Border Patrol has pushed illegal immigrants into the harshest parts of the desert its become really Dangerous and not including kidnapping and the high cost of a Coyote. it just doesn't make sense for a lot of people anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hey View Post
    So basically the US has gotten so much worse that they're better off staying in mexico.

    Sounds like a terrible thing to me.
    Did you not read what I wrote? The US getting worse was only 1/4th of the equation (and not even all of the US, just the sectors that employ a lot of illegal immigrants), and I'm sure I left out tons of factors

    Wait, this is the internet, dumb question, I'm sorry

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    Why go to America for jobs, when the companies are moving to Mexico?

    Move to America and do shit work or stay in Mexico and work at an electronics production factory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pirian View Post
    Did you not read what I wrote? The US getting worse was only 1/4th of the equation (and not even all of the US, just the sectors that employ a lot of illegal immigrants), and I'm sure I left out tons of factors

    Wait, this is the internet, dumb question, I'm sorry
    It's not because "Mexico is an awesome place", it is because the cost of moving now outweighs the benefit. This is due in part to better employment/wages in Mexico (the average wage has actually gone down due to the abundance of cheap labor over seas, but there are more of those jobs so the average still goes up), probably due in part to less drug related violence (I'm purely making this assumption, but it's based on the fact that it's been a while since the last major news story about it, but that isn't really reliable), and some would argue that it is also due in part to tougher illegal immigration laws/enforcement in the US, finally, it is due in part to the slowdown in the US economy and mainly in construction related jobs.
    The bolded relates to the US getting worse, and the underlined you just made up. You made 5 points:
    1) cost of moving. This relates to both the usa and mexico.
    2) better employment oppurtunities in mexico. This relates only to mexico.
    3) less drug violence. This relates only to mexico, but you just made it up based on nothing, so i'm going to ignore this.
    4) US laws treat them like shit. This relates only to the usa.
    5) us economy sucks. This relates only to the usa.

    3/5 of these are related to the usa, and 2/5 (2/4 really since 1 is invalid) have nothing to do with mexico.

    Explain how that is 1/4.

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    Pretty sure drug violence is historically high in Mexico right now.

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