Have you fought Garuda?

[Chakra]

Using the Burst combo so early with full HP is only lowering it's effectiveness. I normally do a different cycle though that leads me to little to no MP so Burst will hit harder after a convert.

Thundaga combo > Freeze > Thundara combo > Firaga combo > Thundera combo (Excruciate after Thunder) > Convert > Burst > Thundaga combo > Thundara combo. Usually dead at that point but all this is moot in a couple days. Trying to figure out where to place Parsimony so I get just enough mp to finish off the Thundara combo before Burst.

Just a minor tweek. Doing a Thunder > Thundara between your initial full Thundaga combo will net you an extra 1k+ dmg. ^^

[Toth]

With the upcoming changes, I wonder. If BLMs start up with straight damage on Garuda and get her to AB early before any plumes destroy the pillars, could the manaburn strategy still work with a few tweaks. Fire combo the adds and such?

[Hiroishime]

Fire doesn't do anything on the plumes.

[Toth]

Fire doesn't do anything on the plumes.

I was referring to the clones she pops.

[Hiroishime]

I was referring to the clones she pops.

One is magic resistant though D:

[Kaeko]

Chirada: 7,000 HP and takes 50% damage from physical attacks.
Suprana: 11,000 HP and takes 10% damage from magic attacks.

Adds spawn "phase 3" during "West" and "Bending" winds. Plumes spawn during "South Winds". You have roughly 30-45 seconds to kill the adds after they pop before they warp to the middle of the arena and use Minstral Song for 4,000 damage (unavoidable). Suprana in particular has pretty high evasion. You can easily cap ACC on Garuda and still be in the high 80%s on Suprana. They also hit pretty hard (like 800ish a shot). I suspect they are higher dLVL.

Would not recommend manaburning Suprana lol.

[Niiro]

I haven't had much interest in doing Garuda but from what I've heard she has unusually high Meva, I've heard people professing 500 macc "minimum" to even perform decently which sounds like a bit of an exaggeration.

How much is really needed to get a decent (90%+) land rate? Is it really that bad?

[Lokus]

Just a minor tweek. Doing a Thunder > Thundara between your initial full Thundaga combo will net you an extra 1k+ dmg. ^^

I'll give it a try next time, hopefully I won't be waiting on timers too much since depending on the group I'm with, I don't even get to cast the last couple of spells sometimes.

[Enygma55]

You need atleast 450base (with food) with +40 minuet (so 490) for 90% M.acc. This is not an exaggeration. Its almost required that a BRD BV minuet (+80) during the burn phase to prevent any resist that will leave her sitting at 2% and wipe everyone out.

1 spell resist breaks your chain and you lose out on very important dmg. Since the burn phase is 1min 30 sec to burn 60% down, you have no time to waste sitting there waiting 4 sec for spell cooldown when thats another potential 500 dmg multipled by every blm.

[Carraway]

Rather than BV Minuet, we BV Ballad throughout the fight and make sure all of our BLMs are rolling with 460+ base m.acc, before food and Minuet. This is from the perspective of the more "traditional" setup, where we typically kill Garuda within one to two transitions in phase 3.

[Hiroishime]

Rather than BV Minuet, we BV Ballad throughout the fight and make sure all of our BLMs are rolling with 460+ base m.acc, before food and Minuet. This is from the perspective of the more "traditional" setup, where we typically kill Garuda within one to two transitions in phase 3.

Do you not bring 2 BRD anymore? we typically BV ballad twice, once before astral and once more usually before the second time incest sisters pops.

[Carraway]

Do you not bring 2 BRD anymore? we typically BV ballad twice, once before astral and once more usually before the second time incest sisters pops.

We do; once in the beginning and once before Aerial Blast. That's why I said "throughout the fight", but it might not have been clear from just that phrase. Because we try to kill Garuda inside one transition, we don't bank on a BV after one transition. As long as the HP trigger for Aerial Blast isn't higher than ~25% after 1.22a, we're probably not going to change our strat. If it's something like 50%, forcing phase 2, then yeah, we'll probably further stagger our BV Ballads out.

[Drako]

is it worth making feet with lightning potency only?

i mean, isnt lightning somewhat limited on potency because you get +500 or something in thundara combo?

also, you woldnt get potency for fire spells..

lightning IV double meld would be 42+ while m.potency is 22+

[Enygma55]

It won't help to push Thundara (+700 m.atk on combo), but it will affect Thunder, Thundaga and Burst. If you don't mind holding more than 1 pair of shoes, do it. I always take inv space into account when gearing my jobs.

I prefer 1 pair of patterns with 25+ m.atk that affects all my spells instead of carrying 1 for every element. Patch is tomorrow (Wed 2pm pst) so BLM burn will be out of the question then. Time to bring out the MNKs and WARs!

[Toth]

So has anyone tried this since the update? What % does she AB now? Is BLM burn still possible?

If not, best setup IYHO?

[Buttons]

She does AB at 50% now. BLM burn not possible.

Other than that I can't really comment on it, my LS never used BLM burn and did the battle with a normal setup the entire time.

There are various different setups that could work, you just need high DPS, a good tank, an excellent healer and everyone needs to learn the phases by heart and always need to know where to stand and how to run. We normally use WAR, WAR, WHM, BRD, BRD, BLM, BLM, BLM.

But I know some LS have already integrated a DRG or MNK into the fight as well.

Just watch some of the videos on youtube and then practice practice practice. This battle is not very lenient, we also wipe sometimes cause all it takes is one person not paying attention or one bout of latency to screw everything up. Not to mention that we have been getting some VERY weird glitches post patch. o.o"

[Toth]

Thank buttons. I assume BLMs couldn't just nuke her down quickly to trigger AB and then burn her before clone rape-ga? Just curious because if so, you just know the JPN BLMs will be all over it. It sucks though I shouted and looked for traditional Garuda parties all night and no one was interested. I am hopeful tonight will be better.

[Carraway]

The HP trigger for Aerial Blast is not 50% -- that would force phase 2. It's somewhere around or below 25%. We clocked in several kills using the same basic strategy we've used since day 1 and the only real change for us is that Garuda is untargetable for a longer period of time directly before/after Aerial Blast.

[Buttons]

Ah it's lower, my bad then. As WHM I never really target her much apart from initial nuking in phase 1. ^_^

[Sigmakan]

What happens to the leftover plumes? Do they depop or blow up as well?