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  1. #181
    Bagel
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    The buff/debuff doesn't stack--it simply overwrites. However, a 10-second gap in the ATK+ rotation is something to the tune of 8000 points of damage lost in a crowded hamlet. The ATK bonus is like quintuple damage, so the stark difference in not having it active for even a short period vs. having it active 100% of the time can lead one to believe it's super-effective when overlapped (well, it is super-effective when overlapped, but not because the power is multiplied).

  2. #182
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    Good to know, I have all of the advance skills for crafting so I can keep it up full time solo as long as all of the NPCs aren't occupied and the aggro mob gets pulled off quickly enough.

    How long do the buffs/debuffs last btw?

  3. #183
    The Once and Future Wamoura
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    Believe it's 60s/120s respectively?

    edit: that could be way off i don't even remember

  4. #184
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    ATK/DEF are 60s
    Enmity reset is also 60s. The NM will issue a new order 60s after you turn in the reset.
    Regen is 45s.

    I'm not sure about debuffs. 120s sounds right.

  5. #185
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    both DoH buffs are 60 sec, but i tested doing 2 at same time at it lasted 120. I just kinda eyeballed it while playing, but im almost sure it does stack.


    edit: tested again, it seems that if you try to stack yourself it doesnt work, but doing 2 dif classes or maybe just 2 dif person, it does stack.

  6. #186
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    Question about people spamming Red>Blue the whole time, is this not risky in terms of the special bros dying by poison instead of the archers? We've only been doing one (two?) Blues at the start, then not again until the third special mob is dead. I've always been told it's very risky to keep Blues up the whole time, so if it's not, it seems like the best plan.

  7. #187
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    Yes, you'd be taking a risk if you cycle red/blue while special are up.

    Scrap the 3rd DoH and take in a melee/BLM and have them take the 3rd special bro's HP down and an archer finish so you can get back to poison faster.

  8. #188
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    Question about the score tabulation: How is "Times Militia Attack Power Increased/Defense and Evasion Increased/Regen Granted" counted? We noticed last night that we had 35 Instruments of Warfare Deployed, and had two DoH on att and 1 DoH cycling defense and reset. But the score screen did not have a line for Defense and Evasion up, no line for Regen, and counted only 3 times Attack power raised for 90 pts, even though the att+ icon next to the potions was up the whole time. We were however awarded for All Varieties of Instruments Simultaneously, so shouldn't the line for Defense and Regen show up with a number?

    On another run we were awarded for Regen 1x and attack 14x and defense 0x, but were awarded for simultaneous instruments... But the two attack DoH swore they each had at 12+ turn ins each, so shouldn't have been something like 20+ attack at least?

  9. #189
    Yoshi P
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    Does anyone know what the seal drop rate is at the 50k mark? I thought it was 10%, but I'm not positive if that's right. I'm considering running a few more hamlets, but for as few as we'd get to do on a weeknight we're not really up for trying to get a top 20 provisioner for three or four runs before call it a night.

  10. #190
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    50k seems to be somewhere in the 10-20% drop rate.

    You can get 60k points without a top 20 provisioner, but there is no room for error.

  11. #191
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    Yeah we've gotten 60k without top 20 before, but if we run weeknights there's going to probably be at least one guy who's not a regular with us most nights. 50k is so easily done, I was just trying to be as realistic about it as possible.

  12. #192
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    For typical 60k runs, non-top 20, we've had runs where only 1 of the two bonus mobs were killed, and the mage was killed. Typical rotation on pots. You can't ever lose an archer in these runs. Of course in order to get the mage, all the special mobs need to be killed by Archers. I can't really say for sure how many broken tools/weapons you would need at that point, but a good surety is 6.

    If your doing runs where no archers die, and you get the mage at the end, your in pretty good shape. As long as no one dies.

    On Seal drop: Gd, in the past 2 weeks I've seen more seals drop off 50k chests than 60k chests. Maybe its just my luck. I seem to always go on the runs where the group had gone 6/8 on seals the previous day, but end up getting 6/8 armets when I'm there.

  13. #193
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    Is it just the three unique-weapon beastmen that shouldn't die to poison or is it a concern also for the leader of the beastmen and the undead? As I understand it, the only issues are:

    1. NPC archers need to kill the three unique weapon beastmen or else undead mage won't pop.

    2. Don't want beastmen leader to die (via poison or anything else) before undead mage is killed.

    Otherwise it doesn't matter how anything dies, right?

  14. #194
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    just the unique-weapon beastmen.

  15. #195
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    Does anyone know if the hamlet accessories, earring, neck, bracelets drop only to top 20 providers, or do they drop in the main party chest? Also, are these accessory drops specific to area, or can they randomly drop all 3? Thanks.

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    Earrings drop from box, I've seen bracelets from every Hamlet via Captain (Top20). I'd wager Bracelets & Wristlets are Top20 via Captain and the rest are box? If it comes from the box, it's liable to be zone specific.

  17. #197
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    i believe we got the bracelets in hyrstmill and it was a top 20 reward only.

  18. #198
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    So earrings from party chest Aleport, and choker from party chest Golden Bazaar, both bracelets all zones, top 20. Makes sense. Thanks so much for your reply. Regards.

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    It seems like everyone on my server has their seals now so am I screwed when it comes to 60k scores? I don't think I could fill the server supply quota on my own...

  20. #200
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
    It seems like everyone on my server has their seals now so am I screwed when it comes to 60k scores? I don't think I could fill the server supply quota on my own...
    If that's the case, I would guess getting a top provisioner spot shouldn't be too hard?

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