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    Quote Originally Posted by Modoru View Post
    Okay so! I cleared my questions on Thura mostly, but as far as Karieyh, what's worth it (for SAM)?
    Right now, I have body, but I was wondering what's ideal using and for what situations. My sam is mostly behind on gear and I'm working on its +2's, therefore I don't have NNI. Since those aren't options (until I can get it to NNI level), what should I focus on for WS and TP?

    Thanks for the help!

    Current SAM:

    Kiku/Rani strap/--/Thew bomb
    Unkai+1/houyi's/brutal/unkai
    Unkai+2/ace's/rajas/xx (getting tyrant's)
    Atheling/goading/unkai+1/ace's

    Going to end up replacing:
    Kiku
    Houyi's
    Ace'sx2?
    R.ear?

    I'm not sure.
    I'm not sure what gear you have available but shoot for capped haste and a 6 hit without NNI gear.

    I don't know which GKT you're going for so the gear is going to vary depending on its delay.
    I'll bold swaps.

    ???GKT/Pole or Rose strap/--/Thew bomb
    Zelus Tiara/Ganesha's or Unkai/brutal/Ghille +1 or Centaurus
    Unkai+2/Karieyh or Brego/rajas/xx (getting tyrant's)
    Atheling/Phos +1 or Bullwhip/unkai+1/ace's

    For Karieyh pieces. Legs and feet for WS. Hands for TP. Body for WS if you have nothing better. and Head is kinda meh for SAM.
    Hope that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khajit View Post
    Rani strap is complete garbage. get a pole grip at the very least. you might need a rose strap depending on stp.
    Work on Ganesha's mala.
    Everyone else who wishes to bother explaining will actually bother to figure out your x-hit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitou View Post
    I'm not sure what gear you have available but shoot for capped haste and a 6 hit without NNI gear.

    I don't know which GKT you're going for so the gear is going to vary depending on its delay.
    I'll bold swaps.

    ???GKT/Pole or Rose strap/--/Thew bomb
    Zelus Tiara/Ganesha's or Unkai/brutal/Ghille +1 or Centaurus
    Unkai+2/Karieyh or Brego/rajas/xx (getting tyrant's)
    Atheling/Phos +1 or Bullwhip/unkai+1/ace's

    For Karieyh pieces. Legs and feet for WS. Hands for TP. Body for WS if you have nothing better. and Head is kinda meh for SAM.
    Hope that helps.
    Thanks for the feedback, will keep those in mind. Right now I'm not specifically sure what to go for, because I don't know how patient I am to go for ToM Hagun, like do I have any other choice?
    There are no pole grips available so I'll have to wait on that... I might just get a rose strap interim. Ganesha's mala seems easy enough to spam for, just need to get a group of people willing.
    As for karieyh pieces, will do! I just need to farm the bayld for that, which should be easy. Zelus is the real challenge here <_< nobody does that NM ;;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmagi View Post
    @Pak discussion, like I said, +1 can be a good holdover and doesn't require annoying augmenting. I think reselling won't be an issue for the same reason. Also the fact that it can be resold and armada/valk has the potential to be replaced.
    I appreciate the input, as always. I suppose it might have made a difference if I'd stated I have an Apoc from the beginning. I'm presently working toward Armada/Valk, I mainly wanted to know if the NQ Pak bit was worth it as a holdover. I don't mean to outright replace the superior pieces with it, just holdover. If it's HQ or bust then ill just stick to what I've got til I have Armada.

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    From what I understand the New GK from the expansion that is AH-able will beat the tp bonus gk. It's called Tomonari. Someone correct me if I'm horribly wrong.
    If you want a polearm the best one for SAM at the moment is Draca Couse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahona View Post
    From what I understand the New GK from the expansion that is AH-able will beat the tp bonus gk. It's called Tomonari. Someone correct me if I'm horribly wrong.
    If you want a polearm the best one for SAM at the moment is Draca Couse.
    I'd like confirm on the tomonari

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    MAB Mirke Wardecors vs Thurandaut body for COR Wildfire? And in general, is there a rule of thumb with x# of mab = y# of agi?

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    Monk weapons:

    Ninzas (skirmish)
    (MNK/PUP) – H2H
    DMG: +38, Delay: +51
    with current best augment
    - DMG +21-33
    - Counter +5
    - STR +1-8

    or

    Tlalpoloani
    DMG+74 Delay:+96 DEX+8 [Element: Fire]+20 "Store TP"+5
    LV 99 MNK PUP

    assuming no r/m/e buffs etc. iirc the augment damage doesn't count toward fstr? I'm assuming one of these will be better than the other in 100% of circumstances. Which is better?

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    ninzas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    MAB Mirke Wardecors vs Thurandaut body for COR Wildfire? And in general, is there a rule of thumb with x# of mab = y# of agi?
    Thura.
    Athos > Mirke > Loki's for wildfire, so we could say 10AGI > 4MAB > 6AGI, or 2.5AGI > 1MAB > 1.5AGI. So you could say 2AGI:1MAB as a very general rule of thumb. Khepri Jacket > Tessera Saio being the two top options obviously.

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    Farming Dyna as BST or THF?

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    Depends on your gear.
    BST makes up for way more relaxed runs though, and makes stones uber easy and also multiple accidental aggropulls.

    I'm also afraid THF has it harder after the def/att cap ratio change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Modoru View Post
    I'd like confirm on the tomonari
    This is accurate, the Tomonari is the way to go.

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    To be clear, all current testing just has Tomonari as between +3 and +75 TP Bonus. It could be 25%, 50%, or conceivably any other value in that range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sechs View Post
    Depends on your gear.
    BST makes up for way more relaxed runs though, and makes stones uber easy and also multiple accidental aggropulls.

    I'm also afraid THF has it harder after the def/att cap ratio change.
    This explains why I was getting wrecked as a THF last time I went in. 300 damage from a stone? Sheesh. I had signet on, too! ;;

    Quote Originally Posted by Byrthnoth View Post
    To be clear, all current testing just has Tomonari as between +3 and +75 TP Bonus. It could be 25%, 50%, or conceivably any other value in that range.
    Hm, but regardless of TP Bonus the tomonari may have, is it worth getting no matter what, or is its worth completely dependent on that factor?

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    EPs don't seem to be any different with Signet bonus on, but as you have noticed, TE statues and DC mobs do hit a bit harder now.

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    With SoA release I've started using Geirskogul more for self Dark Skill chains to drop mobs easier.

    My DRG tp set is such.

    Gung/Duplus/X/H.Stone
    Phorcy/Portus/Brutal/Ghillie+1
    Enif/Ogier's/Tyrant's/Rajas
    Atheling/Goading/Phorcys/AF3+2

    Obv. to hold my 5hit through ws all my stp needs to stay put since it's a single hitter, what i was needing to know is it more useful to stack AGI in slots that are changeable or to go with STR and ATT like phorcys set and what not. Also same goes for Camlann's Torment and Vit for me. (yes i made both)

    I also use Geirskogul for Shock spikes when i'm face tanking Reives. So VIT/AGI for R/E weapon skill vs the usual STR and ATT. Which would give more DMG to the WS. Thanks in advance.

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    For PUP:

    Keep with Veregth lvl 90 and VS or go with Blutkrallen with SS? That def down sounds really sexy despite the high price tag...

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    Vereth + Victory Smite is still better, even assuming that the 12.5% defense down is up 100% of the time. ODD is a very potent buff, you'll need an even better weapon to overcome that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toth View Post
    For PUP:

    Keep with Veregth lvl 90 and VS or go with Blutkrallen with SS? That def down sounds really sexy despite the high price tag...
    Imho that's a wrong question. You should have put one of the new Skirmish/Wildkeepers weapon in place of Blutkrallen.
    Using Stringing Pummel (don't underestimate it!) or Shijin Spiral with one of those weapons might prove better than Vere90 + VS. Almost certain it does tbh.

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    The question is, he can buy the Blutkrallen, the others not. He's talking about an immediately available option... Of course properly augmented Skirmish weapons and the Wildkeeper weapon are better candidates.

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