What's Better?

**FNH** · 2013-04-20 11:04

Originally Posted by Modoru

Sounds about right. What's the actual best head for MS?

http://www.ffxiah.com/item/27784/thurandaut-chapeau

?

**Zyraek** · 2013-04-20 13:32

Which is better for Ruinator on BST?

Fortis Mantle - +6 STR & -4 ACC
vs
Atheling Mantle - +20 ATK & 3% DA

**Falkirk** · 2013-04-20 14:59

Fortis Mantle edges out Atheling Mantle for the most part.

**Ripebear** · 2013-04-20 16:21

Debate here over Fudo VS Shoha.

Currently I have Tomonari 5-hit and Masamune 85 5-hit.

I know with this Tomonari with Shoha will beat Masamune Fudo spam or Masamune Fudo > AM > Shoha spam.

Here is my question, if i go Masamune 90, how should I use it?

I've heard when ATT is capped, Fudo beats shoha as long as geared accordingly. This true?

How should I go with Masamune 90, Fudo and Shoha while AM is up? Or gear for Fudo and spam it?

Cheers

**Denmork** · 2013-04-20 17:29

Originally Posted by Ripebear

Debate here over Fudo VS Shoha.

Currently I have Tomonari 5-hit and Masamune 85 5-hit.

I know with this Tomonari with Shoha will beat Masamune Fudo spam or Masamune Fudo > AM > Shoha spam.

Here is my question, if i go Masamune 90, how should I use it?

I've heard when ATT is capped, Fudo beats shoha as long as geared accordingly. This true?

How should I go with Masamune 90, Fudo and Shoha while AM is up? Or gear for Fudo and spam it?

Cheers

Simple answer is Fudo does better on lower DEF mobs that are easy to cap attack on, and shoha does better on high DEF stuff when you need that att boost. In reality you just kinda have to mess around to find out what's best to use where. I will say Fudo like Kaiten has more utility than Shoha for SC and self SCing that could easliy make up for lower DMG spikes in certain situations.

**Modoru** · 2013-04-20 18:49

Originally Posted by FNH

http://www.ffxiah.com/item/27784/thurandaut-chapeau

?

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
I wanted to avoid farming bayld for this ;_;

**Ipsen** · 2013-04-20 19:59

Looking for suggestions to help optimize Drg, I haven't gotten into NNI yet. So suggestions for TP Body, Neck, Ear slots and rings please. Weapon suggestions as well , but not wanting to fight over which pole arm is best.

**Foldypaws** · 2013-04-20 22:47

Originally Posted by Ipsen

Looking for suggestions to help optimize Drg, I haven't gotten into NNI yet. So suggestions for TP Body, Neck, Ear slots and rings please. Weapon suggestions as well , but not wanting to fight over which pole arm is best.

Since most of this ends up being for the sTP, it's pretty situational. That said:

Empy +2 body, Neck is Ganesha's Mala if you don't need sTP or Houyi if you do. Ear is Brutal/Koku or Ghille+1. Rings are Raja's Tyrant's.

The Chanar Xyston is a pretty decent poleam for how easy it is to acquire. Wildkeeper Reives or Skirmish would obviously beat it.

**Maguile** · 2013-04-21 12:22

UF legs: Ogier's vs Karieyh?

**dasva** · 2013-04-21 13:38

Originally Posted by Modoru

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
I wanted to avoid farming bayld for this ;_;

Well with augmnents Hecatomb Cap +1 easily wins without SA and with really good ones might anyways.

**Khajit** · 2013-04-21 16:49

Originally Posted by dasva

Well with augmnents Hecatomb Cap +1 easily wins without SA and with really good ones might anyways.

I thought that until i plugged in a da+3 cap i had into the moten spreadsheets and it lost to thaumas hat when stacked with TA. Unless you dont have NNI gear Hect cap seems to be run only(or unstacked mercy but unstacked mercy is bad/weaker than exenterator) right now.

I know this question was asked earlier but that was in relation to E/P bodies. Pak Corselet good for drk? From what I can tell my current tp set needs adjustments on drk to get another hit dropped off and pak seems to be the only swap that doesn't drop my overall DA while giving a better X-hit.

<ammo>Fire Bomblet</ammo>
<head>Bale Burgeonet +2</head>
<lear>Bale Earring</lear>
<rear>Brutal Earring</rear>
<neck>Ganesha's Mala</neck>
<body>Ace's mail</body>
<hands>Bale Gauntlets +2</hands>
<lring>Rajas Ring</lring>
<rring>Tyrant's Ring</rring>
<back>Atheling Mantle</back>
<waist>Goading Belt</waist>
<legs>Phorcys Dirs</legs>
<feet>Phorcys Schuhs</feet>

Is my current setup. I have access to a Rose strap, I'm 99% sure im going to buy a hagnea stone since im sure it works for several jobs(Drg, Sam, lolbst,Run, mnk and possibly delay capped thf might benefit), and Pak is only 500k atm so it's not this is some crushing investment.

I'm not enthusiastic about wasting time for an ebody/tatters or pbody from einherjar when both are probably going to be raped to death in 3 months plus the gil i could have gotten selling the ebody abj could have geared other jobs i'd prefer to upgrade if the extra gil comes.
Any ideas?

**dasva** · 2013-04-21 17:59

Did you plug in DA3 and att?

**Khajit** · 2013-04-21 19:06

Originally Posted by dasva

Did you plug in DA3 and att?

Da3 only since my latest augment didn't have +atk.

**noodles355** · 2013-04-21 22:24

How much behind is unstacked 99 Mercy to unstacked Exenterator? Including the 5% Crit AM (assuming it's up fulltime)?

**Cletus** · 2013-04-22 16:42

Ukonvasara (85) Dmg122 STR+10

VS

Telamon (fire path 99) Dmg133 STR+11 Atk +26

Does Ukko's Fury and aftermath make up for the difference in base damage and the added attack? Both have same delay.

**Taint** · 2013-04-22 17:34

Originally Posted by Cletus

Ukonvasara (85) Dmg122 STR+10

VS

Telamon (fire path 99) Dmg133 STR+11 Atk +26

Does Ukko's Fury and aftermath make up for the difference in base damage and the added attack? Both have same delay.

Ukon is winning and will only get better once you 90+ it.

**Cletus** · 2013-04-22 18:10

Originally Posted by Taint

Ukon is winning and will only get better once you 90+ it.

OK, thanks. 122 base dmg just seems awful low, and it might take me a while to 90 it, so I was a bit worried.

**pancakesandsex** · 2013-04-23 19:01

Anyone have a 5 hit build using Str telamon for war? Phorcys, Ogiers, Karieyh are all available.

Currently using a 6-hit capped haste build set up around Fazheluo R. Mail and Helm +1. Don't have E.Body yet.

**grevenilvec75** · 2013-04-23 21:42

It has same delay as Ukon, so just use one of those.

links i used that may or may not be in date:

http://www.ffxiah.com/player/Odin/Kaerin#item-sets
http://www.ffxiah.com/player/Ragnarok/Ejiin/#item-sets

**Eldelphia** · 2013-04-24 03:58

We're having a bit of a discussion in our Meebles static right now about whether to farm Umaghrk. With the new gear we're down to comparing the Matanca with Toci's for Blade: Shun.

Toci's harness
[Body] All Races
DEF: 60 STR +13 DEX +13 Accuracy +10
Attack +10 Double Attack +3%

v

Matanca harness
[Body] All Races
DEF: 77 HP+8% STR+15 DEX+15 VIT+15
Attack+22 Haste+3%

So we're looking at 2 str, 2 dex and 12 attack v Double Attack +3% on a 5 hit ws.

Someone care to explain clearly (to a predominantly mage player), all other things being equal what wins here?

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