What's Better?

spider123 · 2013-06-30 16:27

Code:

<ammo>Hones Tathlum</ammo>
				<head>Thurandaut Chapeau</head>
				<neck>Justiciar's Torque</neck>
                               <lear>Steelflash Earring</lear>
                               <rear>Bladeborn Earring</rear>
				<body>Toci's Harness</body>
				<hands>Mel. Gloves +2</hands>
				<lring>Mars's Ring</lring>
				<back>Letalis Mantle</back>
				<waist>Anguinus Belt</waist>
				<legs>Manibozho Brais</legs>
				<feet>Thaumas Nails</feet>

Is what I got for WS. I think I mathed it out at the appropriate 630 acc, but tbh, I dunno if I'm doingitright.

As far as parses go, I sit in the top three. Varies naturally depending if I die/others die. Just a little frustrated at our Tojil (No wins yet

) so I was making sure I'm doing all the damage I can.

**Motenten** · 2013-06-30 17:01

Misspelled "Honed Tathlum".

**noodles355** · 2013-06-30 18:03

Am I right in assuming 7hit is the best way to go with Ophidan Trident? Doesn't seem to take that many sacrifices and 6hit looks impossible.
Then building on that, Is 5hit the best bet with Upukirex? Or is it worth dropping to a 6hit to push in more accuracy/multiattack?

This is my Ophidan Trident set. Phorcys Head, Ker's Cuirass and Tyrant's ring are placeholders until Yaoyotl Helm, Enif Corazza and K'ayres Ring respectively:
Phorcys, Mala, Steelflash, Bladeborn
Ker's, AF3+2, Tyrant's, Rajas
Letalis, Goading, Phorcys, Af3+2

That should work right? 632 acc iirc... or somewhere around there.

**Riiaider** · 2013-07-01 08:16

Originally Posted by spider123

Code:

<ammo>Hones Tathlum</ammo>
				<head>Thurandaut Chapeau</head>
				<neck>Justiciar's Torque</neck>
                               <lear>Steelflash Earring</lear>
                               <rear>Bladeborn Earring</rear>
				<body>Toci's Harness</body>
				<hands>Mel. Gloves +2</hands>
				<lring>Mars's Ring</lring>
				<back>Letalis Mantle</back>
				<waist>Anguinus Belt</waist>
				<legs>Manibozho Brais</legs>
				<feet>Thaumas Nails</feet>

Is what I got for WS. I think I mathed it out at the appropriate 630 acc, but tbh, I dunno if I'm doingitright.

As far as parses go, I sit in the top three. Varies naturally depending if I die/others die. Just a little frustrated at our Tojil (No wins yet

) so I was making sure I'm doing all the damage I can.

Looks good to me, the only other things I can suggest is augmented af2 legs if you dont have them otherwise just stick with it, you'll get it sooner or later ._.

**Tarage** · 2013-07-01 17:44

I recently finished my Spurrina Gages for my Summoner, and I was thinking about augmenting them. However, I'm not entirely sure it's even worth it. The possible augments I can get are 2-3 -PDT. As a SMN, if I'm getting hit a lot I'm doing something wrong. I'm not sure that 2-3 PDT would really amount to anything significant in the long run, as it would only cut something like 5-10 damage, unless I understand PDT wrong.

Should I even bother?

**dasva** · 2013-07-01 17:52

Originally Posted by Tarage

I recently finished my Spurrina Gages for my Summoner, and I was thinking about augmenting them. However, I'm not entirely sure it's even worth it. The possible augments I can get are 2-3 -PDT. As a SMN, if I'm getting hit a lot I'm doing something wrong. I'm not sure that 2-3 PDT would really amount to anything significant in the long run, as it would only cut something like 5-10 damage, unless I understand PDT wrong.

Should I even bother?

Can add up after awhile either way it's cheap to augment

**Tarage** · 2013-07-01 19:00

I forgot to mention the second problem. I have never done synergy in my life. This means if I want to HQ it, I would have to level up to 70 or 80 or what have you and then spend time HQing it. That and Abdhaljs's Honor on my server go anywhere between 500k and 1 mil.

**noodles355** · 2013-07-01 19:04

party up with a friend with 80 synergy and ask them to do it for you

**Hitou** · 2013-07-01 19:05

Find/pay someone to do it for you. Otherwise it takes like a day to 1 week to cap synergy depending on how much you can handle grinding it and the supply of items like gold/platinum leaves on your server. Check the synergy page in the crafting section for more details.

**noodles355** · 2013-07-01 19:06

only to cap it to 70, hard to do to 80 if you don't have crafts lvld too.

**Tarage** · 2013-07-01 19:39

Well like I said it's NQ is -2 HQ is -3. I'm just not sure paying half a mil multiple times before I HQ is worth it for just -3 PDT.

**dasva** · 2013-07-01 19:48

Then don't hq it. Do it once and get whatever you get. I can see the argument of not putting several in to get 1 more pdt. But doing it once for 2-3... cmon. This isn't an HQ or nothing kind of deal lol. Also holy shit at that price... now I'm glad I bought a few dozen back when they hit like 20k <.<

Edit: actually more like wtf up with your server... only 80-110k each here now and we only had like 2 serious legion shells before soa

**Tarage** · 2013-07-01 20:07

I used to be in one of the few legion shells on Rag. They all quit the game.

**Darkmagi** · 2013-07-02 12:12

Don't be a cheap ass, spending that much and not augmenting a -1 is just dumb.

**falseliberty** · 2013-07-02 19:47

can someone recommend or point me to real cookie cutter tp and upheaval set for bloodbath axe? have +2 ravagers and and 5/5 phorcys, but I never have really played a 2hd DD before. ( no ebody and Mikinaak out of the question till thf and mnk gear done ). thx

**Fwahm** · 2013-07-03 00:13

Is it worth it to 5 hit Senbaak Nagan? With my weaponskill set, it'd take 41 Store TP on gear in TP phase to do it.

**Squah** · 2013-07-03 08:06

Rose/Hagneia
Yaoyotl/DA earrings
Armada/Rajas/K'ayres
Goading/Phorcys/Mikinaak

Is 45

Edit: this was directed at fwahm

**JamesRay** · 2013-07-03 08:38

5hit helps quite a bit for Bloodbath if you use Ravager body for tp need another 23 in gear to make it.
TP
Blood//Pole(Duplus)//Ravager
Phorcys//Asperity/DA Earring
Ravager//Ogier's//Rajas/Mars
Atheling/Zoran's(Phos)/Ravager/Ravager

This will put you slightly over, but you can figure out upgrades after thf and mnk

Upheaval

xx/xx////Onieros Pebble
Ravager +2/Apathy Gorget/Moonshade(ATK TP Bonus)/Brutal
Twilight(Ares' +1 or Aug Valkyrie)/Phorcys (Ares' +1)/Terrasoul/Spiral(Terrasoul?)
Atheling/Windbuffet(Caudata)/Karieyh/Karieyh

( ) are basic upgrades that aren't Mikinaak etc. I think that should get you started but I may have put something wrong^^;

**Fwahm** · 2013-07-03 11:20

Originally Posted by Squah

Rose/Hagneia
Yaoyotl/DA earrings
Armada/Rajas/K'ayres
Goading/Phorcys/Mikinaak

Is 45

Edit: this was directed at fwahm

I know it's possible, I was just wondering if it was better than having a 6 hit and gearing for ATK/ACC/DA/TA/QA.

Messing with the DRK spreadsheet, I get a very slight edge with 5 hit with

Senbaak/Pole/-/Hagneia
Phorcys/Asperity/Bladeborn/Steelflash
Pak/Bale/Rajas/Tyrant
Atheling/Goading/Phorcys/Mikinaak (DEX)

over a 6 hit with

Senbaak/Pole/-/Fire Bomblet
Quauhpilli/Ganesha's/Bladeborn/Steelflash
Porthos/Bale/Rajas/Tyrant
Atheling/Windbuffet/Phorcys/Mikinaak (DEX)

Is that right? I don't have Armadaberk nor Enif Corrazza.

**Squah** · 2013-07-03 12:36

Yep. Your 5hit set is identical to mine except I have Yaoyotl. Putting into spreadsheet gives me that
Yao/Mala/DA/DA
Enif/Ares+1/K'ayres/Rajas
Atheling/Windbuffet/Ares +1/Whirlpool
comes out on top handily, though.

All I need to get for the above set is a Mala (0/140+), Enif, and the ares plans. I have the rest and am excited to finish it

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