What's Better?

**grevenilvec75** · 2012-07-01 23:02

WAR upheaval set:

STR99/pole/---/AF3
AF3+2/Apathy/AF3/Brutal
Phorcys/Phorcys/Terrasoul/Spiral
Atheling/Warwolf/Phorcys/Phorcys

Suggestions? HQ Abjuration bodies probably will never happen. Rings and Earring i feel could be upgraded but not sure with what (moonshade has refresh on it). Phorcys shoes were better than what I had, but idk what would be better.

EDIT: oh yeah i dont have twilight helm, otherwise i'd be using it. NQ mekira hat worth it?

**Squah** · 2012-07-02 08:13

DRK Entropy/Catastrophe

Bale Flanchard +2 or Aug. Armada Breeches (Str+10 Int+4 is max). The words I want to hear are Bale (ogiers but gaunab is a whore) since I don't have the abjuration, tatters nor the -1.

Also, for Entropy: Twilight Mail or Phorcys Korazin? Assuming twilight since Phorcys only applies to the first hit.

**Atoreis** · 2012-07-02 15:36

Mandau/Thokcha
vs
Mandau/Aluh Jambiya
vs
Twashtar/Coruscanti (assuming that 35DEX gives you 10% crit rate on top of 5% from coruscanti - during TP)
vs
Mandau/Twashtar (assuming 20DEX wont give you more than 2% crit rate - during TP)

all 99 and for THF obviously.

**Aragon of Odin** · 2012-07-02 19:10

Originally Posted by grevenilvec75

WAR upheaval set:

STR99/pole/---/AF3
AF3+2/Apathy/AF3/Brutal
Phorcys/Phorcys/Terrasoul/Spiral
Atheling/Warwolf/Phorcys/Phorcys

Suggestions? HQ Abjuration bodies probably will never happen. Rings and Earring i feel could be upgraded but not sure with what (moonshade has refresh on it). Phorcys shoes were better than what I had, but idk what would be better.

EDIT: oh yeah i dont have twilight helm, otherwise i'd be using it. NQ mekira hat worth it?

Going off memory here so could be a lil wrong, tested a few things on Spreadsheets but AF2+2 legs > Phorcys, D.Sollerets(Feet from Pil, unless under MS use AF3+2), Onerios Pebble > AF3, and I think Windbuffet > Warwolf. I stick with AF3+2 head over Twilight, could be wrong on this one though, but spreadsheet had it pulling ahead due to ACC and DA I guess.

This was using a 99 Bravura however.

**Mafai** · 2012-07-02 21:25

Originally Posted by Aragon of Odin

Going off memory here so could be a lil wrong, tested a few things on Spreadsheets but AF2+2 legs > Phorcys, D.Sollerets(Feet from Pil, unless under MS use AF3+2), Onerios Pebble > AF3, and I think Windbuffet > Warwolf. I stick with AF3+2 head over Twilight, could be wrong on this one though, but spreadsheet had it pulling ahead due to ACC and DA I guess.

This was using a 99 Bravura however.

Crit Hit Osode?

**Inactive** · 2012-07-02 21:44

Closing in on finishing Apoc and was wondering about my body slot. Would Askar Korazin be a suitable replacement for NQ hauberk until I can get an HQ hauberk with 6 STP?

**Aragon of Odin** · 2012-07-02 21:54

Originally Posted by Mafai

Crit Hit Osode?

For MS yeah, but w/o MS Phorcys.

**grevenilvec75** · 2012-07-03 10:02

Originally Posted by Aragon of Odin

Going off memory here so could be a lil wrong, tested a few things on Spreadsheets but AF2+2 legs > Phorcys, .

You sure about this? The set bonus for 4 pieces (granted you arent using feet like i am) is +5 str/vit. add that with the 10 vit and 24 attack already on the phorcys and i can't see how af2+2 can possibly beat it.

**|Heretic|** · 2012-07-03 22:27

DRK TP set

Assuming capped haste with a 5 hit, best TP body? Bale +2, phorcys, or something else? I own Bale and phorcys, so if it's something else what would be better between the two while I work for that something else?

Edit: Scythe if it makes a difference

**Seol** · 2012-07-03 23:39

Main/Sub/Anni99/Adaman Bullet
Thaumas/Ele-gorget/Sylvan Earring/Moonshade(TP bonus)
Sylvan caban+2/HANDS/Stormsoul/Stormsoul
BACK/Ele-belt/Thaumas/Thaumas

For Last Stand... most sets I've seen/read about agree w/ most of what I listed except hands/back, some list thaumas gloves, others scout bracers +2, the back I see the variants of Sylvan Chlamys and Terebellum mantle. What's better?

P.S. Body slot, Tessera might be better than 3+2 body idk, but I'm not overly concerned about that one atm, since I don't have it and probably won't get it to drop anytime soon.

**dasva** · 2012-07-04 00:22

It's really depending on how much ratt you need. Like those hands it's 4.1 base dmg vs 12 ratt. Back is like 8.1 base dmg to 20 ratt. Would really need to look at things like full stats and how much ratt you have and mob def to really know for certain but I'd side with the higher base dmg anytime you are getting decent amount of att buffs. Which is the only time I'd be using physical ws anyways.

As far as bodies go not sure enough testing has been done to really say for sure exactly how it is adding to begin with... only thing I read that really tried to narrow it down put it somewhere around another 5% or something.

**Seol** · 2012-07-04 01:31

Alright, I guess I'll stick to Thaumas Gloves/Sylvan Chlamys, I'm always /war, use RCB on RNG and for the things I use RNG for, I have mineutx2~3 and Chaos Roll. Thanks for the fast reply!

**Squah** · 2012-07-04 08:50

Originally Posted by |Heretic|

DRK TP set

Assuming capped haste with a 5 hit, best TP body? Bale +2, phorcys, or something else? I own Bale and phorcys, so if it's something else what would be better between the two while I work for that something else?

Edit: Scythe if it makes a difference

If you're already at capped haste, use something that has multi-attack on it, whether it be an augmented armada hauberk, valk breastplate, or enif corrazza. Until then, see if you can swap anything out for less haste and use Bale +2 in its place to keep yourself capped.

**BerenTebogo** · 2012-07-05 13:05

Originally Posted by Omnipotent

DA+11 X2 or a DA+11/STR combo.

Gibbous or HQ Gibbous won't outdo one of these?

Just got mine Monday

**ryskar** · 2012-07-05 19:26

Trying to sort out my Exent set since I'm not satisfied with the numbers. I'm working on mandau and STR thokcha, and have SCH 99 for whenever I can get a neo-nyzul group (though I'm still working on my enhancing set).

http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/264956

This is what I have now. I'm wondering if I should:
Replace Raider's Armlets +2 for Athos Gloves.
Replace Cuauh. +1 head for something else, maybe Ocemoleh +1? My Anwig is for Waltz recast so I can't use that.
I also have Houyi's Gorget but I'd be pretty surprised if that beat Justiciar's.

Also, what changes should I make for stacked Exent (besides obviously the body)?

**noodles355** · 2012-07-06 03:17

Athos Gloves
Ocelomeh Headpiece+1
Crudelis Belt
Toci's Harness (with Oce Hadpiece+1) or Kudzu Aketon or Tessera Saio.

TA Exent: Add Rogue's Armlets +1. SA Exent: Add Raider's Armlets +2 and Athos Boots

**Buffy** · 2012-07-06 04:11

Anyone got a generic War/Sam TP build for Ukko? My mule just finished 80 stage, which means apparently it gets to do voidwatch now.

**Taint** · 2012-07-06 09:31

Originally Posted by Buffy

Anyone got a generic War/Sam TP build for Ukko? My mule just finished 80 stage, which means apparently it gets to do voidwatch now.

Just search FFXIAH, tons of Ukon builds on there.

Generic would be

Ukon/Claymore//AF3
Zelus/rancor/AF3/Brutal
AF3/AF3/Raja/Tyrant
Atheling/Bullwhip/AF3/AF3

**Alistaire** · 2012-07-06 19:16

Current best WS for a casual TH whore not looking to do twashtar or spend ws merits on Exenterator, outside abyssea. (Inside is obvious)

**grevenilvec75** · 2012-07-07 00:34

Originally Posted by Alistaire

Current best WS for a casual TH whore not looking to do twashtar or spend ws merits on Exenterator, outside abyssea. (Inside is obvious)

Last I heard evis on THF beat Dancing Edge if you have decent dex/crit gear. Doubt any other are worth mentioning.

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