What's Better?

**diasetsu** · 2012-08-31 22:16

Some of those gear choices for pup are probably way off, no reason to wear martial arts gear like neck and legs with level 99 KKK. Kenkoken gives -50 delay as is, so you cap with just it, marches haste spell and 24% gear haste. Using another -20 delay in gear is going to do nothing but lower your TP. While your Monk sets are good sets to use, I feel like your Puppetmaster sets fall short of ideal in high buff situations.

**CoreyX** · 2012-08-31 23:07

There's literally no way a MNK will beat a 99 KKK PUP in any situation, even if the puppet doesn't exist.

**Byrthnoth** · 2012-08-31 23:18

It's really hard to believe that statement in the absence of most of the relevant information we'd need about PUP.

**dasva** · 2012-08-31 23:37

Originally Posted by CoreyX

It's worth mentioning that Armor Shatterer greatly reduces defense.

How much is significant? I'd test it myself but pup isn't even lvld lol

**pchan** · 2012-09-01 04:16

Originally Posted by diasetsu

Some of those gear choices for pup are probably way off, no reason to wear martial arts gear like neck and legs with level 99 KKK. Kenkoken gives -50 delay as is, so you cap with just it, marches haste spell and 24% gear haste. Using another -20 delay in gear is going to do nothing but lower your TP. While your Monk sets are good sets to use, I feel like your Puppetmaster sets fall short of ideal in high buff situations.

Even though I'm accounting for this, I didn't really go deeply in TP gear but I ajusted it to rancor on neck and thaumas on legs (it seems that usukane remain the best). Feel free to give suggestion because I didn't play pup since 2007 when my pet died to a basic yagudo aoe in dynamis.

Spoiler: show

Now it's dps is about on par with monk.

pewp :

Spoiler: show

mnk stays the same at 709. I promise that if you find me a gear set that's better and will put monk at at least 10% behind I make a glowing KKK. However, rejoice pups, as it makes you second best DD (opinion), well if you can have this weapon...

**Taim Meich** · 2012-09-01 05:45

Originally Posted by pchan

Even though I'm accounting for this, I didn't really go deeply in TP gear but I ajusted it to rancor on neck and thaumas on legs (it seems that usukane remain the best). Feel free to give suggestion because I didn't play pup since 2007 when my pet died to a basic yagudo aoe in dynamis.

Spoiler: show

Now it's dps is about on par with monk.

pewp :

Spoiler: show

mnk stays the same at 709. I promise that if you find me a gear set that's better and will put monk at at least 10% behind I make a glowing KKK. However, rejoice pups, as it makes you second best DD (opinion), well if you can have this weapon...

Try this set. Should be better, but I'm not 100% sure since I haven't modeled the excess of attack given by the BRD:

Spoiler: show

Also, on level 95 enemies, the automaton contribution will be relevant enough to make up for a measly 20 DPS.

**pchan** · 2012-09-01 05:59

From the spreadsheet and with the buff I used (boost dex namely and 2x minuet) it's equal to mine for TP and inferior for WS. I'm using 95 vit/dex and a level 99 mob. The attack boost from berserk and minuet is enough to cap.

**Maguile** · 2012-09-01 13:17

Herja's fork or OAT?

**The Old Man** · 2012-09-01 13:24

Assuming I don't go for another Empy after I finish Vere, which would be better for these other jobs?

SAM: TP Bonus magian, STR magian, Kikugosaku, something else entirely?
THF: Twilight knife, triplus dagger, aluh jambiya, DEX magian, something else?

**Radec** · 2012-09-01 14:07

Originally Posted by The Old Man

Assuming I don't go for another Empy after I finish Vere, which would be better for these other jobs?

SAM: TP Bonus magian, STR magian, Kikugosaku, something else entirely?
THF: Twilight knife, triplus dagger, aluh jambiya, DEX magian, something else?

TPBonus, Aluh/StrMagian

**SargentRemora** · 2012-09-01 18:10

Bumping since it got buried a lil

Originally Posted by SargentRemora

For one handed melee (specifically DNC), Rajas or Ambuscade Ring for TP?
Using the set here.

**Eurell** · 2012-09-01 18:24

Originally Posted by Maguile

Herja's fork or OAT?

Herja's

**Byrthnoth** · 2012-09-01 18:32

Rajas in almost every situation.

Konda · 2012-09-01 19:02

Irasya vs OAT GSD? (DRK obviously)

**SargentRemora** · 2012-09-01 20:20

Originally Posted by Byrthnoth

Rajas in almost every situation.

Thanks

**Toshiko** · 2012-09-01 21:40

Just got Foreboding Abjuration: Body abj, is it worth uncursing the nq? I dont really think the HQ is possible on my server and dont really see a point to it. I might just do it for the rarity but it doesnt look all that useful on first glance. Havent seen any conversations about these new abjurations really.

**dasva** · 2012-09-01 22:08

I won it on my fishing mule.... it's decent for some of those jobs nuking normal stuff. Think only sch body beats it on most nukes but if so it would be by very little. But that's HQ and it's augments aren't that good. Though not everyone has 4/5 nares so that might make a difference to you. I'd be suprised if no one on your server couldn't T1 it. Alchemy fairly friendly to lvl after a few updates ago.

**Tyrath** · 2012-09-02 01:17

Just got this today:

http://cdn.bluegartr.com/wiki/8/80/I...escription.png

Does it beat out AF3+1 feet for nuking?

http://cdn.bluegartr.com/wiki/3/39/G...escription.png

Not sure if 10 elemental is better than 3 int. Or 5 when I finally get the AF upgraded to +2.

**Yugl** · 2012-09-02 01:36

Elemental magic only affects magic accuracy. Empyrean+1 wins for damage, but the other feet win for magic accuracy.

**Modoru** · 2012-09-02 03:16

Hachiryu Haramaki's relevance in 99 on NIN or SAM, excluding phorcys for SAM [I haven't really dedicated time to SAM, so I don't know, leave me alone]

edit; or is it just pretty town gear?

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