What's Better?

[Obsidian]

I currently use Thaumas hat/kecks for Victory Smite. Would Usukane Somen +1 and Hizayoroi +1 be a better combo?

[Michelob]

Assuming standard gear for the rest of your set, no they wouldn't be.

[mdkuser]

I currently use Thaumas hat/kecks for Victory Smite. Would Usukane Somen +1 and Hizayoroi +1 be a better combo?

situationally (ie never). The best overall set is still the old one: nemetona cap / tantra+2(tocis) / mustela gloves / abatteur subligar/ kacura leggings +1, balanced for accuracy /attack/str/dex.

[JustaWAR]

Is there any situation where NIN AF body beats Thaumas? or is it safe to drop

[Lyltia]

Not that I can think of; might as well store it rather than drop it though, in case that ever changes.

[ssjjfar]

Thf
With 5/5 AF+3
Thamaus Body and Legs, NQ skadi legs

I'm assuming I can just put in thamaus in both slots now for TP, and waive AF3 set bonuses

edit: and I guess Kecks over Tumblers on WS too.

[noodles355]

You should have never been TPing in 5/5 AF3+2 anyway...........

[ssjjfar]

You should have never been TPing in 5/5 AF3+2 anyway...........

I don't

[noodles355]

Good, in that case yes to both questions. When you get Thaumas feet and hands, swap those in too.
Sadly, skadi+1 legs have no place as far as I can see in Thf TP set (let alone the NQ). Saddens me because the skadi set is possibly my favourite looking gear in all of FFXI and I really wish the +1/sigyn was better than it is...

[Kincard]

I use AF3 Head and Hands, Thaumas Body and Legs and Assassin's Poulaines +2. It can come ahead of the Thaumas x4 setup people suggest but obviously it depends on your buffs and the target and all that fun stuff.

[pancakesandsex]

I use AF3 Head and Hands, Thaumas Body and Legs and Assassin's Poulaines +2. It can come ahead of the Thaumas x4 setup people suggest but obviously it depends on your buffs and the target and all that fun stuff.

I believe thaumas x 3 raiders x 2 (head, hands) wins over both.

[ssjjfar]

Good, in that case yes to both questions. When you get Thaumas feet and hands, swap those in too.
Sadly, skadi+1 legs have no place as far as I can see in Thf TP set (let alone the NQ). Saddens me because the skadi set is possibly my favourite looking gear in all of FFXI and I really wish the +1/sigyn was better than it is...

Thanks

I believe thaumas x 3 raiders x 2 (head, hands) wins over both.

will keep in mind so I won't have to ask again when I get more pieces.

[nikia]

Wondering since Salvage II gear is out, have MNK and SAM sets changed? I know SAM would use feet.

Can MNK use Head/Hands +1?

Basicly trying to figure out if I can sell my Nomkahpa Mittens.

Any advice would be grateful, thank you.

[Darkmagi]

MNK can most certainly use head, I'm pretty sure the only other hand change MNK can really make is tenryu.

[noodles355]

I believe thaumas x 3 raiders x 2 (head, hands) wins over both.

Both against Pils /War in voidwatch and against DC dynamis mobs /dnc, I have 4/5 Thaumas coming ahead of any other combination of AF3+2/Thaumas.

The only thing to beat it was Skadi+1 mask and 4/5 Thaumas against DC dyna mobs (yes, Skadi Visor+1, not Sigyn+1. Surprised me greatly).

[Kincard]

I'm willing to bet that Ocelomeh+1 would win in that same situation you're describing unless you're talking about a miniscule difference.

[Karah]

Against Dynamis DC I have 2 thaumas 2 raider and af2+2 feet beating thaumas 4/5.

Against Qilin thaumas feet start to beat assassin's

Spoiler: show

Mandau (95)
Coruscanti
Raider

Raiders +2
Nefarious
Brutal
Suppanomimi
Thaumas
Raiders +2
Rajas
Epona's
Rancorous Max
Twilight
Thaumas
Assassin +2

(and yes, Coruscanti > fire thokcha/aluh by a sizable amount) nearly 20 DPS

THF/WAR DC mobs
raider/thaumas/raider/thaumas/assassins > 198.814
raider/4x thaumas > 198.146

THF/DNC DC mobs
2/2/af2+2 >181.503
raider head + 4/5 >183.137

And I don't know if the DPS sheets even account for Raider set procs... which while very close, would make the outcome change. (though they happen so............. rarely. Still counts!)

[Kincard]

Coruscanti's use obviously depends on your race and how much DEX the rest of your gear has, same thing as Ocelomeh+1/Skadi+1. If the large amount of DEX breaks you into the sweet spot you'll be getting as much as +11% crit rate or something which is obviously a huge boost in damage.

[noodles355]

I'm willing to bet that Ocelomeh+1 would win in that same situation you're describing unless you're talking about a miniscule difference.

Maybe it would, however, you'd be surprised how much attack means to thief. Like, the difference between every "top" equip combination is within the difference 10 attack can make in most cases.

@Karah
You see, I have:
Dynamis DC, Haste, Dia II, YCB +1, Mithra Thf/Dnc, No samba
Mandau95/Aluh/Af3marang
Af3+2/Nef/Supp/Brutal
Thau/Thau/Epona/Rajas
Ranc/Twilight/Thau/Thau
167.690 Melee DPS


Skadi+1 over AF3+2:
169.406
Sigyn over AF3+2:
168.622
Oce+1 over AF3+2:
167.421

Af3/Thau/Af3/Thau/AF2:
162.401

Significantly less. Did you remember to lwoer the set bonus when swapping out Thaumas? Because if you forget, then the last set hits 170.339, which is the highest.

Don't get me wrong, it still surprises me that that Skadi Visor+1 is top, especially over Sigyn. And it's a shame because its gonna cost me like another 30 papers for it, but that's what the spreadsheet is telling me.

It also surprises me that, even with some form of decent partial set bonus, skadi+1 (with the unlabled haste+6) doesn't ever beat thaumas legs. When you don't need accuracy, Skadi Bazubands+1 beat Raider's Armlets+1 as you would expect, however Thaumas Gloves still beat both. (166.166 Skadi+1, 164.357 AF3+2, 167.690 Thau).

[Karah]

I have it set on zero buffs, except mule haste. No dia, no samba, no boost spells.

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