What's Better?

[ssjjfar]

reposting this here from the relic thread:

asking for a LS friend: if you had most of the currency already saved up, would you build bravura and vere, or ukon and spharai, assuming equal love for both jobs. inb4 sell currency and do ukon/vere, looking for 1relic/1emp. my instinct tells me spharai/ukon, but i'd like the collective opinions of BG. marrows will be free from LS. plates and cinders/dross will take a while if they happen

Ragnorak/Vere
and Ukon later if at all?

Idk i plan on building Ragn and Ukon eventually myself

[mdkuser]

Ukon+spharai, as shparai is almost always > vereth (exception: zergs).

[Plow]

Answered in relic thread as well, but +1 in the ukon+spharai camp.

[Mrp]

Iga Ningi+2 VS Toci's Harness for Blade:Hi

Is there any usefullness for toci harness for a Thaumas gear Ninja?

[Obsidian]

Best Shun body, I believe.

[Orcai]

toci's DEF:60 STR+13 DEX+13 Accuracy+10 Attack+10 "Double Attack"+3% Sphere: Haste+2% Set: "Triple Attack"+3%
vs
omodaka DEF:70 STR+11 DEX+11 VIT+11 Attack+20 "Subtle Blow"+6 Enhances "Zanshin" effect
for stringing pummel? mostly in low buff situations.

pil doesnt want to put out, and matanca is gonna take awhile..

[Byrthnoth]

Between those two, definitely Omodaka. -2 STR, +9 Atk, +11 VIT, -3% DA

[ssjjfar]

Upheaval
Twilight Body or AF2+2

15STR 15VIT 15DEX 25ACC vs 20ATT 20ACC 8GAXE

[Damane]

Upheaval
Twilight Body or AF2+2

15STR 15VIT 15DEX 25ACC vs 20ATT 20ACC 8GAXE

twilight body in that case but for upheaval:

Ares body +1 or Valky Breastplate (tough I think valk with perfect augments wins) > Ares body > Twilight body

ravagers' body is really pointless and useless for upheaval ¬.¬

i correct myself its actually only a macro in piece for bloodrage and nothing else.

[shepardG]

Ukon+spharai, as shparai is almost always > vereth (exception: zergs).

Really? Not calling out, I know you keep your math right, was just curious about this. Can I see scenarios? And numbers?
I'm curious because I finally decided against Saphari in favor of verthnagi (cause I also have pup).

[shepardG]

Ukon+spharai, as shparai is almost always > vereth (exception: zergs).

Really? Not calling out, I know you keep your math right, was just curious about this. Can I see scenarios? And numbers?
I'm curious because I finally decided against Saphari in favor of verthnagi (cause I also have pup).

[Darkmagi]

Outside of abyssea both weapons are very similar dps wise, and spharai will end up winning a lot of the time too. Also has the added defensive benefit.

[Roundelk]

For Ranger Last stand, Scout's bracer's or Thaumas gloves, This is with 3 other Thaumas pieces and it comes out to 6 AGI vs 7 STR 11 R.Attack.

[Khary]

Pretty sure I know the answer to my own question but I'd just like to confirm. Heka's Kalasiris > Orison Bliaud +2 correct?

[Khajit]

Pretty sure I know the answer to my own question but I'd just like to confirm. Heka's Kalasiris > Orison Bliaud +2 correct?

No. You're supposed to cap your cure potency without it.

[Fredjan]

No. You're supposed to cap your cure potency without it.

This ^

Even under Afflatus Misery Orison is better due to the healing skill. For curagas Heka's is better.

[Khary]

Ok ty guys

[Roundelk]

For Ranger Last stand, Scout's bracer's or Thaumas gloves, This is with 3 other Thaumas pieces and it comes out to 6 AGI vs 7 STR 11 R.Attack.

Bah forgot Thaumas set also has STR bonus so its really 2 STR 11 R. Attack vs 6 AGI, I'm guessing Thaumas gloves is better.

[Stromgarde]

For a monk build on the cheap/lazy, how the various options stack up for non-REM weapons? Specifically I was looking at Brawny Adagaras vs. DEX/Acc magian vs. WS damage magian, although I'm also open to other options.

[Plow]

For a monk build on the cheap/lazy, how the various options stack up for non-REM weapons? Specifically I was looking at Brawny Adagaras vs. DEX/Acc magian vs. WS damage magian, although I'm also open to other options.

dex fists are meh, str ones would be better than them for anything you're going to use a ghetto mnk on

ws damage are about the same if not worse

brawny's are perfectly acceptable til you get something good