What's Better?

[Slycer]

Anyway, another question about SCH nuking sets, was wondering about Morrigan+1 comparing it to AF3+2 and Nares.
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Would someone mind to correct the wrong things I just wrote, please?

The two sets together allow you to make some of the best accuracy (while retaining damage) and best damage sets. For the "accuracy" set below, I'd consider it optimized without completely sacrificing damage (there are a bunch of accuracy/skill pieces that would net you more accuracy, but they would lose all damage components).

Accuracy:
Head: Morri+1 (probably Estoq.+2 in the case of RDM)
Body: Nares (Savant's+2 in the case of SCH)
Hands: Morri+1
Legs: Akasha
Feet: Nares (maybe Duelist's +2 for RDM)

= MAB+35, INT+34, M.acc/skill+52

Damage:
Head: Nares
Body: Morri+1
Hands: Nares
Legs: Akasha
Feet: Morri+1

= MAB+49, INT+48, M.acc/skill+8, M.crit+5%

It's pretty nifty how they complement each other (they've always tended to be very good in the past with developing mage sets that complement each other well); however, accuracy boost on the former set is very significant compared to the relatively smaller damage boost on the latter set (slightly mitigated by the INT difference). I'd think the best possible hybrid of the two would look something like nares head / morri+1 (or sch+2) body / morri+1 hands / akasha legs / morri+1 feet, and the first accuracy tradeoff you'd make would be morri+1 body for nares body, if needed.

[nikia]

Wanted to ask, since the head/body/feet set combo for Usukane +1 is 5%~ and not 6% like we first thought, would that combo still be best for someone that doesnt have Tenryu+1 or Phos+1? Also if Usukane +1 feet are only thing worth getting for SAM currently would Omodaka Gote be a upgrate/replacement for Brego Gloves?
Thank you.

[pooter01]

Wanted to ask, since the head/body/feet set combo for Usukane +1 is 5%~ and not 6% like we first thought, would that combo still be best for someone that doesnt have Tenryu+1 or Phos+1? Also if Usukane +1 feet are only thing worth getting for SAM currently would Omodaka Gote be a upgrate/replacement for Brego Gloves?
Thank you.

Generally speaking, feet+head is what you would want to stick with. Body you would be losing 10 zanshin from AF3+2, which is 2.5% DA under hasso. adding gloves with phos +1 will give you just under capped haste(~250/1024). Using 4 haste gloves will cap haste with nq phos.

[nikia]

Generally speaking, feet+head is what you would want to stick with. Body you would be losing 10 zanshin from AF3+2, which is 2.5% DA under hasso. adding gloves with phos +1 will give you just under capped haste(~250/1024). Using 4 haste gloves will cap haste with nq phos.

Forgive me i messed up, i didnt mean body i meant hands.

Head/Hands/Feet combo, Does that alter the outcome at all?

Also as mentioned no Phos+1, currently use Bullwhip Belt

[pooter01]

sorry, was trying to say that usu hands +1 were barely behind(nearly identical) conventional 4% gloves with a phos +1, with NQ phos it will fall much farther behind. feet>head is the way to go

[nikia]

So would Omodaka Gote be a upgrate/replacement for Brego Gloves?

[Foldypaws]

Just Twilight Scythe. Also, you could buy Gram if you don't already have a Hoarfrost Blade.

I'd drop Stardiver and stop playing dragoon until you finish Ryunohige. A DRK with a good Great Sword is going to beat an equally geared DRG with a Gungnir in most situations.

Actually, on this notion, what's the current best DRK sets, for at least TP and Resolution..

[Fake]

So would Omodaka Gote be a upgrate/replacement for Brego Gloves?

On anything where acc isn't capped yes, on everything where acc is capped is going to vary depending on your dDEX but its a pretty miniscule difference

[ssjjfar]

Cavaros mantle on war? vs Athelings
Been trying to figure it out, but can't seem to find any TP or Upheavel WS set where cavaros mantle wins, this is with Mighty Strikes/Embrava.

Setting up a set for NII Boss, but doesn't seem like it ever wins, unless I'm doing something wrong. I'm looking at numbers vs Pil, which might not be accurate opponent idk tbh.

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[shaggnix]

cavaros should be in any MS set.

[ssjjfar]

Seems I'm just not capping attack when I do my setup versus Pil. vs DC and Fodder Cavaros always is winning.

idk if I cap attack on Dvali or not

[shaggnix]

its probably that in most MS zerg type situations that you'd build a set for you're getting high buffs. for NNI i guess it would depend on the temps you have left. did you try adding stalwarts to the spreadsheet?

[ssjjfar]

its probably that in most MS zerg type situations that you'd build a set for you're getting high buffs. for NNI i guess it would depend on the temps you have left. did you try adding stalwarts to the spreadsheet?

That helped, w/ stalwarts cavaros comes ahead on WS, still not on tp set though. Ill try comparing it again when I upgrade one or two slots. Thanks

[sluggo]

Shits pissin me off - igalima VS build after he debuffs you - anything to do? pizza helps some but the only thing i can thing of is swapping in acc gear, but takes away from dmg, so idfk.

[noodles355]

Re-working Cor TP set to use dagger with /war for Fencer with Last Stand (was gonna grab a Nguul).

For TP phase: Crit Hit Rate+5, Crit Dmg+5 VS 5AGI 10STR 11Ratt?

Bump.

[dasva]

What exactly are you comparing? And by tp do you meleeing or shooting or just some kind of mix?

[Obsidian]

Shits pissin me off - igalima VS build after he debuffs you - anything to do? pizza helps some but the only thing i can thing of is swapping in acc gear, but takes away from dmg, so idfk.

Use a Vicar's drink?

[Darkmagi]

Confused as hell at that question. Debuffs you?

[dasva]

Think he is referring to the acc down move ig has. And how it makes him want to use acc gear but hates the loss of dmg

[Darkmagi]

Or use a med, or use fanatic's and not get debuffed?lol