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  1. #1641
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    Usukane
    [Body] All Races
    DEF:73 STR+12 DEX+12 INT+12 Accuracy+15 Evasion+15 Critical Hit Rate+4% "Store TP"+7 Set: Enhances Haste effect
    LV 99 MNK SAM NIN PUP

    Tantra
    DEF:64 STR+12 VIT+12 Accuracy+15 Attack+15 Augments "Impetus" Enhances "Martial Arts" effect Set: Augments "Kick Attacks"
    LV 89 MNK

    Toci's
    DEF:60 STR+13 DEX+13 Accuracy+10 Attack+10 "Double Attack"+3% Sphere: Haste+2% Set: "Triple Attack"+3%
    LV 95 MNK THF BST RNG NIN BLU COR PUP DNC


    Usu +4crit +5acc
    Toci +1str +1dex +10att +3da

    Probably mob/buff dependant. Much closer then I first thought.
    where would tenryu domaru +1 have its uses in there?

    Tenryu Domaru +1:
    STR+9 AGI+9
    Accuracy +20 Evasion +10
    Store TP+8
    Agument: Double attack +5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damane View Post
    where would tenryu domaru +1 have its uses in there?

    Tenryu Domaru +1:
    STR+9 AGI+9
    Accuracy +20 Evasion +10
    Store TP+8
    Agument: Double attack +5

    Impetus down:

    Toci's > Usukane > Tenryu > Tantra

    Unless you are uncapped ACC then Usukane wins.

  3. #1643
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    Sonic Thrust:
    Whirlwind Dirs, Lncr. Cuissots +2 or Ogier's Breeches?
    Str+12 DA+2
    Str+9 Att+18
    Att+20 WSDmg+3%

    Also I guess: Justiciar's Torque or Ganesha's Mala?
    Edit: Only have Brutal/Atheling as other Multi-Attack gear in Sonic set if it helps.

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    Best of these three gaxes

    TP Bonus, OAT, Doubleattack

    edit: or StoreTP?

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    Ukon would be faster and better to make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khajit View Post
    Ukon would be faster and better to make.
    Thank you.

    Anyone else for the original question?

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    They all suck and you will really hate yourself for wasting time on anything magian that isn't an ukon.

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    Thanks guys, I guess I'll stick with my Dies Irae for now.

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    to ghetto it up on war you prob wanna dies irae in abyssea and ez shit outside, laceratrice on anything where the -acc on dies matters

    of the ones you listed, you'd want tp bonus if you're going upheaval, and (you didn't list it but...) ws dmg for cleave/RR... they're probably not competitive with oat/da but they're one hell of a lot simpler to make since in the end you definitely want ukon anyway

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    Where does Caudata Belt stand for the jobs that it would matter on (WAR MNK THF DRK BST SAM DRG BLU DNC)

    6 on the Ah, dude SPAMMING that he has one for sale for 4mil like... spamming it... and i sorta wanna start a stupid jueno shoutgument and tell him he's retarded.

    however, if it's beating out the elemental belts or the belts with DA/TA then i will refrain and quietly keep working on my spellcasts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plow View Post
    to ghetto it up on war you prob wanna dies irae in abyssea and ez shit outside, laceratrice on anything where the -acc on dies matters

    of the ones you listed, you'd want tp bonus if you're going upheaval, and (you didn't list it but...) ws dmg for cleave/RR... they're probably not competitive with oat/da but they're one hell of a lot simpler to make since in the end you definitely want ukon anyway
    ty, this is what I actually wanted to know, and yeah will be upheaval.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shepardG View Post
    Where does Caudata Belt stand for the jobs that it would matter on (WAR MNK THF DRK BST SAM DRG BLU DNC)
    !!!
    Just saw this.
    Kinda want it so I can get inventory +1 on MNK. Too bad PUP can't use it... would have been perfect for Pummel, and I guess decent for Smite too if you don't have Wanion?

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    Thinking could be good for Mercy Stroke. I had Pipilaka beating Prosilo when /War, so this should too.

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    Are Ogier's gauntlets any good for a Ragnarok DRK, if they let you 6 hit it and you can cap haste elsewhere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noodles355 View Post
    Thinking could be good for Mercy Stroke. I had Pipilaka beating Prosilo when /War, so this should too.
    Wanion belt says hi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khajit View Post
    Wanion belt says hi.
    Pipilaka, Prosilio and this last one you can buy off AH or Bazaars though.

    Wanion belt requires you to do Provenance and have a lot of luck on Seductive Radiance, or whicever radiance it was. I'm 0/13 atm on anything from that. Myrmex gloves too.
    Not easy to find successful Provenance shouts on my server. Not easy to find provenance shouts at all, tbh. And most of the times they (rightfully?) have annoying requirements.
    Because obviously it's better to get a lv99 ragna DRK who will be afk 99% of the time instead of a competent DD with a level 90 empy weapon, inorite?!
    But then again when people do not know you or your reputation, it's obvious they don't have other means to judge your skill if not by your gear.
    Were I to lead a Provenance PUG event I'd probably do the same with someone I don't know.

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    wait, so is wanion the best belt for mercy?

    i fucking tossed 3 already cos i think my mule had one.... and yea that myrex mitten never drops >.>

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    When stacked with SA it should be because of str/dex +8. Probably not during TA but i have to checkup on that, It occurs to me that I didn't check windbuffet or elebelt on mercy stroke for some stupid reason so i'll have to at least plug those in.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sechs View Post
    Pipilaka, Prosilio and this last one you can buy off AH or Bazaars though.

    Wanion belt requires you to do Provenance and have a lot of luck on Seductive Radiance, or whicever radiance it was. I'm 0/13 atm on anything from that. Myrmex gloves too.
    Not easy to find successful Provenance shouts on my server. Not easy to find provenance shouts at all, tbh. And most of the times they (rightfully?) have annoying requirements.
    Because obviously it's better to get a lv99 ragna DRK who will be afk 99% of the time instead of a competent DD with a level 90 empy weapon, inorite?!
    But then again when people do not know you or your reputation, it's obvious they don't have other means to judge your skill if not by your gear.
    Were I to lead a Provenance PUG event I'd probably do the same with someone I don't know.
    Wanion is the fairly easy drop from it's mob. It's the myrmex that are a complete bitch which only goes to gimps or those that already own it. You're probably going to have to make your own shouts at this point though and be careful thanks to how much average pickup quality has degraded if it's anything like my server.
    Not being able to buff lock anymore really makes the bad players more noticable.

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    Yeah I'm somewhere between like 1/2 and 1/3 on wanion tossed so many but myrmex is like 0/20 lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khajit View Post
    Wanion belt says hi.
    Doesn't exist.

    Edit: Got Crudelis for TA mercy, not sure if best.

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