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    Quote Originally Posted by ronin sparthos View Post
    How do the Blutkrallen/Blutklauen stack up versus Fire Magian or lvl 85/90 Veres?
    I've been messing with the mnk dps calculator to check on this as it doesn't seem like a point of interest to most monks/puppetmasters, but I'm not the best with excel so take this with a hefty grain of salt. It seems as though the weapons are reliant on applying defense down in order to be competitive. Without def down, they seem to be slightly worse than it's competitors, but after applying defense down, they pull slightly ahead. Thankfully the proc rate is quite high, at least on the hq. To check the effect of defense down, I recorded the overall dps value with and without def down applied. Hopefully a real mathematician can accurately determine how they compare to other h2h options if you were looking for a more detailed answer.

    On the plus side, the nq only costs ~3M, which is about the same cost of the geodes and avatarites for the fire h2h without the horrible grinding or you can attempt to farm the meeble claws to save gil. Also, they may be of some use even if you own a R/M/E h2h as I've tried the humorous advice of a friend to apply the def down first, then switch to something else to get the best of both weapons. I only own the WoE+2 h2h to switch to, but smite still beats shijin easily in abyssea and I still retain the def down effect for the next 3 minutes after switching. At the very least, other DDs will love you for helping increase their damage output.

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    For Monk TP set, what is the best Moonshade Earring augments?

    Assuming Latent effect: Regain +1 for 2nd option, but what about the acc vs attack on 1st.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prothescar View Post
    nabu's jubbah should be, not 100% on that tho
    Nabu's Jubbah
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    DEF:54 HP+5% MP+5% STR+10 INT+10 MND+10 CHR+10 "Double Attack"+3% Haste+4%
    LV 99 WHM BRD SMN

    Sublime breastplate
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    DEF:60 STR+14 MND+14 Accuracy+13 Divine magic skill +10 Healing magic skill +10
    LV 99 WHM

    Don't think I'd drop Sublime for Nabu's on Hexa but it comes down to your accuracy v double attack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthonystar View Post
    For Monk TP set, what is the best Moonshade Earring augments?

    Assuming Latent effect: Regain +1 for 2nd option, but what about the acc vs attack on 1st.
    Or you could skip screwing up your Moonshade and go the TP Bonus route to not waste it on other jobs.

    Ignore this if you only play MNK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfchakan View Post
    Or you could skip screwing up your Moonshade and go the TP Bonus route to not waste it on other jobs.

    Ignore this if you only play MNK.
    It's for a monk mule, that I only use for monk. Gearing her for Salvage II.

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    Nothing wrong with regain if MNK is the only job played on it. acc/atk really comes down to your other gear and what you are fighting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthonystar View Post
    For Monk TP set, what is the best Moonshade Earring augments?

    Assuming Latent effect: Regain +1 for 2nd option, but what about the acc vs attack on 1st.
    until they release content where lots of accuracy is needed (stiill waiting..) attac+4. Remember you need less store TP with regain moonshade. Typically you can get rid of AF3+2 legs in favor of something better (thaumas, abatteur subligar) or hagneia stone > potestas or rajas >mars's. 1 regain is more or less 7-8 STP.

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    For THF Exenterator:

    Kudzu Aketon or Toci's Harness

    Kudzu Aketon
    DEF:60 STR+10 AGI+10 Attack+13 Ranged Attack+13 "Double Attack"+3% "Store TP"+5


    Tocis Harness
    DEF:60 STR+13 DEX+13 Accuracy+10 Attack+10 "Double Attack"+3% Sphere: Haste+2% Set: "Triple Attack"+3%

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    Kudzu by a considerable amount.

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    Thaumas beats both if you have 5/5 available though, both capped and uncapped acc.

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    So 5/5 Thaumas > all for Exenterator?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophannus View Post
    So 5/5 Thaumas > all for Exenterator?
    Tessera Saio + 4/5 or Khepri Jacket + 4/5 might beat it, idr.

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    Bumping Earlier questions:

    1) Don't have Wanion. Using Cuchulain for SA and Evis, Pipilaka for Mercy (Solo + SA), Creudelis for TA and Anguinus for Exen. Any use for Caudata? Should be best Mercy piece unstacked. And should I just Evis in Anguinus and SA in Pipilaka and get rid of Cuch for inv+1?

    2) Is unstacked 99 Mercy Stroke still worse than Exenterator when you include the 5% Crit Rate aftermath to melee damage?

    3) Is Exenterator or Mercy Stroke stronger when stacked with TA? Both for 95 and 99 versions?

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    For Sonic Thrust (STR_30% DEX_30%)

    1.
    Phorcys Body(STR+16 Attack+5% 7% WSD)
    Phorcys Legs(10 DEX 24 Att)

    2.
    Phorcys Body(STR+16 Attack+5% 7% WSD)
    Ogier Legs(3% WSD 20Att)

    3.
    Lancer Plackart(STR+14 DEX+14 Att+14)
    Phorcys Legs(10 DEX 24 Att)

    4.
    Lancer Plackart(STR+14 DEX+14 Att+14)
    Ogier Legs(3% WSD 20Att)


    If you take away body/leg I'm otherwise at ~850 Attack STR:167 DEX:135 if that's important for deciding. Also is light gorget worth it for sonic thrust(3.0 ftp) or should I use like a STR piece of ganesha mala?

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    For general cures, haste, erases, -nas: Impatiens with 2% insta-cast or Incantor Stone with Fast Cast +2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdgreg View Post
    For general cures, haste, erases, -nas: Impatiens with 2% insta-cast or Incantor Stone with Fast Cast +2?
    impatiens messes up with your gear swaps. on whm impatient is fine unless you sporting mythic everyone else have their fingers off if you want cures with full potency

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophannus View Post
    For Sonic Thrust (STR_30% DEX_30%)

    1.
    Phorcys Body(STR+16 Attack+5% 7% WSD)
    Phorcys Legs(10 DEX 24 Att)

    2.
    Phorcys Body(STR+16 Attack+5% 7% WSD)
    Ogier Legs(3% WSD 20Att)

    3.
    Lancer Plackart(STR+14 DEX+14 Att+14)
    Phorcys Legs(10 DEX 24 Att)

    4.
    Lancer Plackart(STR+14 DEX+14 Att+14)
    Ogier Legs(3% WSD 20Att)


    If you take away body/leg I'm otherwise at ~850 Attack STR:167 DEX:135 if that's important for deciding. Also is light gorget worth it for sonic thrust(3.0 ftp) or should I use like a STR piece of ganesha mala?
    Being a 1 hit WS, I'm pretty sure Phorcys body should win, the 7% WS damage is applied to the whole WS. Legs, I'm not that sure, but I think Phorcys have a better chance to come ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmagi View Post
    Nothing wrong with regain if MNK is the only job played on it. acc/atk really comes down to your other gear and what you are fighting.
    FWIW, same thinking goes for PUP. And yes, depends on what you're fighting. For a while there, Atk/Regain was king, but with harder mobs you might actually benefit more from the Acc. Obviously can be more important for PUP than MNK with its higher base skill, focus, etc.

    But yeah, if you go regain you should be doing it because you're intentionally focusing on a H2H user and realizing you're giving up a very good WS earring for other jobs. If you have a 2H DD that you use with any regularity, you should think pretty hard about that sacrifice (I don't, so less of a loss for me as someone who only uses H2H/ranged/1h jobs).

    That being said, if you DO commit to regain to focus on MNK/PUP, there are at least some reasonable uses for the regain on other jobs. I use it in my COR idle set: (a) when I'm not shooting or WSing, why not get free TP and (b) MAB earrings for Wildfire anyway. I also tossed it in a mainly Acc/DA-focused Abyssea proc set for gimpy skilled weapons (Pitchfork and Ark Scythe on NIN/WAR).

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    For DRK, Kokou's Earring or Bale's Earring?

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    Either

    Question is too broad to give a real answer.

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