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    I'm back to FFXI after a long break, and now that everyone and their brother has a relic/mythic/empyrean weapon, I think it's time to get started. So this is a real noobish question, but which is better for these jobs?

    RNG: I've always wanted Yoichinoyumi, but now I'm hearing that Annihilator is better. Something about Last Stand being super awesome? Also how does Armageddon fit into that mix? I also have COR and SAM, and while I'd like the flexibility I don't want to go to all the trouble and then have major regrets later.
    THF: Mandau or Vajra? Mandau still looks amazing and has the ever popular 3x dmg proc, but Vajra also looks like a winner with the upgraded SA/TA bonuses.

    SAM: Masamune? Or anything else?

    Sorry for questions that have probably been argued about forever by now, but thanks for the replies.


    edit: April fools avatar? XD

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    Annihilator for rng. Yoichi blows damage wise unfortunately.

    Mandau for Thf,

    Masamune is a nice easy choice. Amano is strong but I'm not sure it's worth the effort vs the ease of Masa.

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    Yes last stand is super awesome. 99 arma would probably do better last stand dmg in zergs with capped ratt but arma plenty good especially with uncapped ratt/racc. Wf is very good and possibly has better enmity to dmg efficiency then coronach and of course doesn't need the buffs as much as physical or the correct range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitarman View Post
    Annihilator for rng. Yoichi blows damage wise unfortunately.

    Mandau for Thf,

    Masamune is a nice easy choice. Amano is strong but I'm not sure it's worth the effort vs the ease of Masa.
    Pfff. Haters gonna hate...

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    Excal or Almace for PLD?

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    Excalibur. Almace's selling point is CdZ, and outside of Abyssea against non-crappy mobs, your dDEX won't b enough to get a decent crit rate out of it. Reqiiescat with Excalibur, on the other hand, is really nice. ODD favors Almace slightly, but the additional effect from Excalibur procs pretty often and it's the equivalent of a constant 60-65 enspell (will have to NOT cast Enlight, however). If you have acc problems, Enlight will pull ahead, bringing the two weapons close, but still with Excal on top.

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    Also if your DDs are eating up your merit ws excal is going to fall way behind. As a taru so less enspell I found that generally the difference between the 2 was small enough that it didn't merit not getting something else.

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    For Resolution, which is better in these situations:

    Phorcys Korazin vs Karieyh Haubert, when cRatio is capped.

    Ares' Flanchard +1 vs Karieyh Brayette, when cRatio is not capped.

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    Are you using any other pieces of Phorcys in the first scenario? If so you're effectively looking at 7% WSD on 1 hit versus 2% DA on 2 hits unless Acc is an issue. I'd pick Phorcys in that scenario.

    I'd say Karieyh in the second scenario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fwahm View Post
    For Resolution, which is better in these situations:

    Phorcys Korazin vs Karieyh Haubert, when cRatio is capped.

    Ares' Flanchard +1 vs Karieyh Brayette, when cRatio is not capped.

    I think you are confusing cRatio with pDif.

    But if pDif isn't capped then your acc probably isn't either. Making Karieyh body the better of the 2nd senario.

    ACC capped Phorcys is winning..

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    Is there any situation where Karieyh Sollerets are beat out by Dilarams? Was planning on trying to get Dilarams for DRK Reso (non-Rag), but is it even worth the time when Karieyh are so easy to get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dominico View Post
    Is there any situation where Karieyh Sollerets are beat out by Dilarams? Was planning on trying to get Dilarams for DRK Reso (non-Rag), but is it even worth the time when Karieyh are so easy to get?
    Purely for Resolution? No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taim Meich View Post
    Excalibur. Almace's selling point is CdZ, and outside of Abyssea against non-crappy mobs, your dDEX won't b enough to get a decent crit rate out of it. Reqiiescat with Excalibur, on the other hand, is really nice. ODD favors Almace slightly, but the additional effect from Excalibur procs pretty often and it's the equivalent of a constant 60-65 enspell (will have to NOT cast Enlight, however). If you have acc problems, Enlight will pull ahead, bringing the two weapons close, but still with Excal on top.

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    99 vs 99 Almace crushes it (if not losing tp from constant shield swap). 95 vs 90 Excal wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    I think you are confusing cRatio with pDif.

    But if pDif isn't capped then your acc probably isn't either. Making Karieyh body the better of the 2nd senario.

    ACC capped Phorcys is winning..
    Is this situation true for Stardiver as well?

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    Assuming 100 tp bonus, how does this stack up to other SAM options? (and 90 masa, as that's probably the furthest I'd ever get it since I don't have that kinda dedication for a non main job; gotta put that drive towards my mnk's wep)

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    Can test it yourself on the spreadsheet. Considering Kantonotachi already beats 85 Masa and is really close/better to 90 masa, I'd say it's pretty clear than such a weapon would be much better.
    Anyway small test with my lolgear setup (no external buffs):
    Kantonotachi 99 => 215,843 DPS
    New NQ GKT => 232,528 DPS

    5hit for Kanto, 6hit for New GKT, same identical gear in both TP and WS.
    Didn't try for Masa because I'd probably have to adjust the setup with more STP to allow 5hit for Masa. My TP set atm has 35 STP (+30 from Job Trait) and if I recall that's not enough to 5hit a 437 delay weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taim Meich View Post
    Excalibur. Almace's selling point is CdZ, and outside of Abyssea against non-crappy mobs, your dDEX won't b enough to get a decent crit rate out of it. Reqiiescat with Excalibur, on the other hand, is really nice. ODD favors Almace slightly, but the additional effect from Excalibur procs pretty often and it's the equivalent of a constant 60-65 enspell (will have to NOT cast Enlight, however). If you have acc problems, Enlight will pull ahead, bringing the two weapons close, but still with Excal on top.

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    Hmm thats funny i was reading RDM forum like 1h ago and add effect was suppose to be 7% chance of activation and equivalent of +25dmg per hit. Enlight on top of damage adds tons of accuracy which is pretty priceless for PLD.

    Also idk how much AGI have top tier mobs but I found this set at ffxiah forum. Thats +80 DEX.
    Not sure whats base dex for all races with +12 from merits but probably above 100. Mobs really have more than 130 AGI?

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    Does Skadi Cuirre +1 have a place in THF TP gear sets? I didn't realize before that it was a 7% DW bonus, but I'm significantly away from the haste cap using it. So I'm wondering if it's worth using in any set other than maybe a SA solo piece.

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    my spreadsheet says skadi +1 body head hands + legs feet thaumas is better than anything else w/o any buffs and u will need tiercel to cap haste (head 7%, hands 4%, legs 6%, waist 7%, neck 1% = 25)

    but then im only comparing to dynamis mob since thats where my thf is really at.......... havent test on adoulin farming mobs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galiber View Post
    99 vs 99 Almace crushes it (if not losing tp from constant shield swap). 95 vs 90 Excal wins.

    Want to post your math? 99 to 99 they are extremely close with Excal winning a majority of situations. (5/5 Req)

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