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  1. #1921
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    95Mandeau/Str Thok or 95Mandeau/Lux? Am I right in thinking Twash should be offhanded at 95?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripebear View Post
    It doesn't seem too hard to do it without nerfing your WS set.
    I didn't look at any builds that sacrificed haste anymore than dropping it from 26% to 25% and needed more STP which I could gain if I had harder to get gear, such as Rose Strap, Usk. Sune-Ate +1 and Phorcys head, but I don't atm. If you're dropping the haste value down then I do not know how that would affect the comparisons (instead of checking how the -haste would affect it I simply decided to prioritise getting this gear much higher than before in anticipation for this awesome GK).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quantic Dream View Post
    How does the new 144 DMG GK compare to a 99 Amano? I am guessing that Amano still wins but would anyone care to make an educate guess of just how close those two are now? I am guessing Amano by 15% difference or so?
    Pure WS damage, that new katanw wins for sure but overall DPS, it depends on wat mob ur fighting

    like someone mentioned, if you needed the acc, in the long haul, amano will win in DPS

    everyone must also remember when it comes to acc/DA/TA/QA vs STP against higher mobs, a 5 HIT may not necessarily always win a 6 hit. Spreadsheet already proved this. Xhit is no longer a priority.

    Optimising your buffs (dependant on your support in group), your food (rcb or pizza +1) and your target is more impt than maintaining a Xhit

    my drk/war ragnarok 8 hit build is better dps than my 7 hit, believe it or not
    for my apoc/war, i prioritise 6 hit even if dps is lower because when i use apoc, i rather get faster 100% TP to drain HP than dealing more damage....

  4. #1924
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars View Post
    Pure WS damage, that new katanw wins for sure but overall DPS, it depends on wat mob ur fighting

    like someone mentioned, if you needed the acc, in the long haul, amano will win in DPS

    everyone must also remember when it comes to acc/DA/TA/QA vs STP against higher mobs, a 5 HIT may not necessarily always win a 6 hit. Spreadsheet already proved this. Xhit is no longer a priority.

    Optimising your buffs (dependant on your support in group), your food (rcb or pizza +1) and your target is more impt than maintaining a Xhit

    my drk/war ragnarok 8 hit build is better dps than my 7 hit, believe it or not
    for my apoc/war, i prioritise 6 hit even if dps is lower because when i use apoc, i rather get faster 100% TP to drain HP than dealing more damage....
    There is a sizeable difference between common levels of stp for drk and sam. 5 hit should always be winning unless you are using a hybrid set (at which point you obviously aren't too fussed on optimal DD or it wouldn't be a hybrid set). Rag drks tp/ws damage split is not exactly similar to Samurai either.

    That said, after putting them into spreadsheet I get Amano coming out very slightly ahead in situations with capped acc and both using Shoha (~2% ahead). Those are the most favorable conditions for the new gkt so any changes to WS/acc will favor Amano.

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    ah yea... ur right... yea sam and drk Xhit factor is different.... i was talking abt amano and suddenly i went into drk STP... my bad XD

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    Got Almace and Sanus Ensis for blu, looking to optimize my TP sets.

    Almace/Sanus/--/Thunder Sachet
    HEAD/Rancor/Suppa/Brutal
    BODY/Homam/Epona's/Rajas
    Atheling/Twilight/Ocelot/Athos

    I don't have NNI gear but slowly working on golds. Main question is body and heads.

    I have toci's body, ocelo head, AF3+2s, zelus and trying to figure out the best combo.

  7. #1927
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    Quote Originally Posted by Streak View Post
    Got Almace and Sanus Ensis for blu, looking to optimize my TP sets.

    Almace/Sanus/--/Thunder Sachet
    HEAD/Rancor/Suppa/Brutal
    BODY/Homam/Epona's/Rajas
    Atheling/Twilight/Ocelot/Athos

    I don't have NNI gear but slowly working on golds. Main question is body and heads.

    I have toci's body, ocelo head, AF3+2s, zelus and trying to figure out the best combo.
    Probably:
    Alamace/Str Magian/ /Cheruski Needle~Mantis Eye
    Oce/rancor/suppa/brutal
    Toci's/wtfDusk+1 at minimum/Epeen/Rajas
    Atheling/Twilight/Af3+2/Athos's

    but seriously:
    http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/30...-to-blue-mage/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars View Post
    Pure WS damage, that new katanw wins for sure but overall DPS, it depends on wat mob ur fighting

    like someone mentioned, if you needed the acc, in the long haul, amano will win in DPS

    everyone must also remember when it comes to acc/DA/TA/QA vs STP against higher mobs, a 5 HIT may not necessarily always win a 6 hit. Spreadsheet already proved this. Xhit is no longer a priority.

    Optimising your buffs (dependant on your support in group), your food (rcb or pizza +1) and your target is more impt than maintaining a Xhit

    my drk/war ragnarok 8 hit build is better dps than my 7 hit, believe it or not
    for my apoc/war, i prioritise 6 hit even if dps is lower because when i use apoc, i rather get faster 100% TP to drain HP than dealing more damage....

    5 hit for sure as fake pointed out. Also Shoha is only SAMs best WS when Acc is high and ATt is low. Otherwise there is a big advantage having Kaiten99 Fudo or Namas99

  9. #1929
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    With this TP set: http://www.ffxiah.com/item-sets/268970

    and Tantra Gloves +1 (+2 eventually) and Athos' Boots available..whats the best hand/feet combo for TPing in and out of Abyssea?

  10. #1930
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    Karieyh Body vs Phorcys for:
    1) Tachi Shoha
    2) Ruinator

    Assuming Phorcys Hands for both, I guess

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    How much AGI do typical endgame mobs have? I'm wondering if the 14 DEX (and thus crit rate) might put Karieyh Moufles over Bale Gauntlets +2 when accuracy is needed.

    The moufles would raise my DEX from 118 to 132.

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    SO I'm being led to understand there's new weapons that can be upgraded and some reive specific weapons. For thief, how does aluh/lux compare to these new ones? (I haven't finished str thokcha and my mandau isn't ready... or completed.)

  13. #1933
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    Any tping body better than Tocis other than Thamus? NNI PUG runs always devolve into horrific drama and bullshit and after 20 odd runs of people fucking up lamps I want to know if there's some better option than NNI every 3 days and hoping for a group that isnt retarded.

    Seriously, ANY kind of TPing build that either:

    A: is respectable and uses tocis+Ocel
    or B: Is not thaumus body

    Would be a godsend (for mnk/thf/dnc again) I dont even care anymore, fuck NNI and everything it involves. People on this server can't do it.

  14. #1934
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    What job(s)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    What job(s)?
    Quote Originally Posted by urat View Post
    Would be a godsend (for mnk/thf/dnc again)
    ^_^;

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    What's the better belt for Fudo if attack isn't capped? Bier Belt +1 or Prosilio? I assume Elemental is best if attack is capped or is it generally going to be the best regardless?

  17. #1937
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    What's the most ideal RagnaDRK TP setup if I don't have access to phorcys or aramada/vplate?

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    This is what I am currently TPing in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricen View Post
    What's the most ideal RagnaDRK TP setup if I don't have access to phorcys or aramada/vplate?

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    This is what I am currently TPing in
    ares head, ares legs, karieyh sollerets, enif body, kokou earring, hagneia stone, letalis mantle

    instant power up but lots of salvage spam (and alex for you)

    quickest and good fix i can think of atm

    ares head, ares legs, 4% haste shoe(hafrn or enif), windbuffet belt, enif body, kokou earring, hagneia stone, letalis mantle could be better in DPS if you dont care about STP but you will need a 1% haste grip or blitz ring. or be pro and get huginn for the extra 1% haste and other awesome stats

    run the above sets on spreadsheet and compare

  19. #1939
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    Is salvage soloable or anything now? I am fairly limited with things I can do, no one wants to really help with anything. There's no way I'm getting enif stuff either, I need both homam and the thing right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricen View Post
    Is salvage soloable or anything now? I am fairly limited with things I can do, no one wants to really help with anything. There's no way I'm getting enif stuff either, I need both homam and the thing right?
    Salvage was soloable at 75 (though still needed 3 to enter). And enif/homam is from limbus anyways

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