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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnus View Post
    Gundam Wing is a really good one.
    No.

    If you want complex themes, go for main original UC Gundam universe: Original series, Zeta, Char's Counterattack. Gundam Wing is actually a very condensed retelling of the main original series with a boy band cast (I'm not joking, the main cast of five teenage boys was an attempt to play off the pop culture of the time)

    Other UC series worth looking into are 0080, 08th MS Team, and the new Unicorn series. Gundam 00 was also pretty good I heard.

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    00 is decent if you pretend the movie didn't exist

    movie just went full retard

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    First season of 00 was good, second season is not as good (gets somewhat SEED-y), but still entertaining.

    Definitely second all your other recommendations (except Wing, I hated that).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gredival View Post
    No.

    If you want complex themes, go for main original UC Gundam universe: Original series, Zeta, Char's Counterattack. Gundam Wing is actually a very condensed retelling of the main original series with a boy band cast (I'm not joking, the main cast of five teenage boys was an attempt to play off the pop culture of the time)

    Other UC series worth looking into are 0080, 08th MS Team, and the new Unicorn series. Gundam 00 was also pretty good I heard.
    Mad much? I've seen a ton of the original which is also spectacular also but it still doesn't change my opinion on Wing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitoru View Post
    You and one piece...
    What's wrong with One Piece?

    Sent from my PC36100 using Tapatalk 2

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    I obsess over One Piece and I know Hitoru in RL.

    Also, I really, really disliked 08th MS Team. The only thing I liked about it was the guy who made that song. I've really tried to understand what people liked about 08th MS Team, but I just can't figure it out. :\

    Char's Counterattack is good (Quess is a dumb bitch).

    I would recommend reading the Gundam Origin Manga.

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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
    You were cold as ice.

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    Nothing wrong with One Piece, but it's not Code Geass like.

    If you really don't mind the mecha theme, Gundam 00 is right up your alley with the entire political struggles and intricate drama. More so the first season than the second. Alot of the series will definitely move you like Code Geass does.

    Lost+Brain is almost literally a Death Note knockoff since you like that series. Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood, also breaks down into a political theme as well, though with more shounen like fights. Ghost in the Shell, also a good anime.

    Code Geass is a masterpiece, you'd be surprised how many times this question has come up over the years. Hard to live up to it.

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    lol, calling a series that fails so horribly on the second season a masterpiece is a bit of a stretch isn't it?

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    YOU BLACK, MIDNIGHT, EVIL MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BLACK MAGIC, DARKNESS!!! YOU RAW, DARKNESS!!! YOU, FUCKING, DELIRIOUS MOTHERFUCKER!
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    You really think Code Geass R2 was a failure? :\

    R2 was fucking amazing. Especially how (spoilers):

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    Zero Requiem was played out by Lelouch and Suzaku.

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    I dunno how many times I've typed this stock criticism for code geass, but here goes my qualm against it

    Spoiler: show

    It ruins a climactic cliffhanger by resetting the series into square one with the beginning of R2
    Fucking Rolo and Suzakick pretty much just the fucking deus ex machina everything, which really ruins the whole concept of well planned strategy.
    I wasn't a big fan of how everything can go into normal school days again after what had happened, but I guess this part is just a personal preference.
    Marianne and Charles' arc was such a fucking waste of overshadowing on S1 and potential final villain, the series was just on full retard when Lelouch faced Charles on Akasha
    In fact, most introduced character on S2 was such a fucking waste of character slot in general:
    ie: Shinku pretend to be useful for a few episode, than just become Lelouch's/Schneizel's bitch from that point onward
    That bitch with pierced eye was foreshadowed as such a badass, then again turned just be a little bitch against Suzaku anyway, but then again, the entire KotR was such a fucking disappointment considering they were barely beyond mooks and just fucking die like bitches to Karen/Suzaku...
    What the fuck is up with Anya's backstory? shit was so random and wasn't even explored.

    I'm sure I can bitch about so much more, there was basically almost nothing I could consider redeemable from the second season, and I fucking loved the first season, which made the entire second season such a goddamn frustrating to watch, especially since I was following weekly livestream for it hoping it would get better.

    Hell, ever thought about why season 2 was named R2? Considering all the naming scheme of the immortal of the series, and lelouch's romanized katakana initial, the series already seemed like a cop out on what it probably aimed for, but that's just my take on it.


    Fuck season 2, that's all there is to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zilong View Post
    Fuck season 2, that's all there is to it.
    Pretty much.

    Also I forgot to add that Kaiji/Akagi are more mind games and have a...unique kind of art style. You'll get used to it, well I did at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xElipsis View Post

    Also, I really, really disliked 08th MS Team. The only thing I liked about it was the guy who made that song. I've really tried to understand what people liked about 08th MS Team, but I just can't figure it out. :\
    It's actually really amazing for a tactical warfare perspective. It gives you an idea about guerilla warfare with MS and how they would be used in real deployment vs having one giant army fight another in space. You also see how tanks/planes/people have to fight against an MS, and how they can all still be useful regardless of the fact that the MS is the giant elephant in the room.

    Also the fight against the Gouf is the first fight where you really see how a pilot's experience level is relevant and what a good pilot will actually do in order to beat newbies. Usually when an Ace falls in UC, it's cuz some Newtype out-talents them (ANYONE Amuro and Camille ever fight basically)


    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnus View Post
    Mad much? I've seen a ton of the original which is also spectacular also but it still doesn't change my opinion on Wing.
    No, but given what he asked for, I strongly disagree with the recommendation of Wing. All the "political intrigue" of Wing is just a rehash of UC elements.

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    Zechs being the lost son of an enemy family to the rebel army? Based on Char. Zech's mask? Stolen from Char. Zechs having a sister? Based on Char. War for space independence? Stolen from Original Gundam. The heroes switching sides midway through? Stolen from Zeta. The villain going full crazy at the end and dropping something big on Earth at the end as part of the villain's plot? Stolen from Char's Counterattack. The very idea of a colony drop? Stolen from Original Gundam.


    I mean obviously they are related serieses and they are allowed to poach ideas, but the argument I am making is that it is far more satisfying to see the original serieses. They are classics for a reason.

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    Fair enough. I think I just prefer the boy band over Amaro being a whiny douche at times on top of Heavy Arms Custom being my favorite Gundam still even if Trowa tossed the giant switchblade.

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    08th MS was awesome if you were a big fan of the early UC battles dealing with The One Year War. You know, a time when Gundam wasn't an instantly invincible killing machine. I enjoyed it since it was a nice side story to the events of Mobile Suit Gundam and covered what was going on planet-side once the Gundam type was mass produced.

    I didn't mind Shiro's progression, either. Most series are the whole 'coming of age' backstory using the pilot (Amuro, Kamille, Setsuna, Judau, Banagher, etc) where we go from whiney bitch to seasoned veteran over a series span. 08th was pretty much, "Here's war, there's some love story. Let's see some fighting, a bit of politics, corrupt leaders and a splash of THIS IS NO ZAKU, BOY". Then again, I've always preferred UC to other timelines so that may be why I'm fairly biased. Fucking loved Zeta more than most series.

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    Holy crap. Forgot about 08th MS. That was a really good also.

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    Sorry for the necro but whoever said dub for gundam wing was good, lol. Dat shit bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazmaz View Post
    Sorry for the necro but whoever said dub for gundam wing was good, lol. Dat shit bad.
    A lot of us grew up and probably watched it on Toonami so it was that situation where we saw the dub before sub. To this day I'll easily go dub on Wing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitoru View Post
    A lot of us grew up and probably watched it on Toonami so it was that situation where we saw the dub before sub. To this day I'll easily go dub on Wing.
    Same but I'll go dub on anything unless it's horrible, ib4 all dubs are horrible.

    Slightly more on topic, wasn't there suppose to be a OVA that was getting released or something?

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    OVA for?

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    While were on the subject why do people refuse to watch subs because subtitles are "Distracting"? I'm really not trying to pull a master race card here. I'm genuinly curious why people make this excuse because its the only excuse I ever hear. I've watched subs since I was a faggot weeaboo and It's gotten to the point I don't even realize I'm reading when I watch subs.

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