Pet Tier List

[Blarg]

People who own dogs secretly wish they were slave owners and are sad they never had the chance to own a human being to put on a leash and make them pretend to like you just to get 2 meals a day

[Howie Roary]

I still think cleanliness is a major factor to look at, and in general cats are cleaner (if we're going by the standard, "out of the box" no training, average cat or dog)

[Demosthenes]

The point is not relevant. It is a matter of how much time you are interested in putting towards your pet. Anyone that is not willing to train their pet ie dog or cat should not own either.

[Howie Roary]

The point is not relevant. It is a matter of how much time you are interested in putting towards your pet. Anyone that is not willing to train their pet ie dog or cat should not own either.

I disagree as that's a rather extreme opinion but I understand a case can be made for it

[Qalbert]

Almost any animal can be trained. That does not mean all animals are equal quality pets. You're not this stupid. Cats, IN GENERAL, are harder and more time consuming to train, and are therfore WORSE pets for the average person, since longer more difficult training may not be feasible. You can train a horse, but that doesn't make it a good pet. You can train a bear, that doesn't make it a good pet. It would be pretty badass though.

[Demosthenes]

LOL! How long does it take to train a cat? Not fucking long. It's taken me about as long to train every cat I have ever had as it too me to train all my previous dogs. Just don't, you know be a shit head.
For someone that used to Foster animals from the shelter, I can tell you that dogs are more tedious. I trained pound puppies and cats extensively. I socialized feral cats like it was nothing.
It is not a matter of one being better than the other. People have different fucking reasons for owning pets. IE it is fucking nice to know I can leave my fucking house for over 24 hours and not have to worry about my fucking cat fucking shit up.
I have never at any point in this thread claimed cats or anything was better than dogs. I refuse. I've owned, trained and loved both. Claiming one is a better pet is a crime of ignorance. They fit different wants.

[Howie Roary]

Cats are harder to train? Wat? I'm no professional trainer but that doesn't seem right. Growing up, my cats were fine, but that's just my limited experience. Your argument (which seems to be directed at demo?) is strongly based on the difficulty to train, and if that is a faulty claim it gives room for cats as the better pet.

Training aside, and the fact that you can't train a cat to be more friendly (unless it's a rescue and it needs to learn to be friendly once again, if it ever once was) I think there are other factors mentioned prior that make a pet better or worse, not simply the difficulty in training

[Demosthenes]

A lot of feral cats can be socialized, they will be picky at who they like. I have never had the pleasure of dealing with a wild dog though.

[Howie Roary]

pleasure..

[Qalbert]

The argument wasn't general training, it was the fucking cat whisperer over there bragging about how his cat was like a dog. It is easier to train a dog to be a dog than to train a cat to be a dog, I don't see how this is hard to follow. The problem here is no one is defining what makes a "good pet" but in terms of general friendliness and playfulness the average dog will beat the average cat, which is the only point I have been trying to make.

[Demosthenes]

RIP Brolenzo.

[Qalbert]

lol

[Howie Roary]

colenzo tier: labs which one is in when they are needed

RIP Brolenzo.

yus

[Demosthenes]

The argument wasn't general training, it was the fucking cat whisperer over there bragging about how his cat was like a dog. It is easier to train a dog to be a dog than to train a cat to be a dog, I don't see how this is hard to follow. The problem here is no one is defining what makes a "good pet" but in terms of general friendliness and playfulness the average dog will beat the average cat, which is the only point I have been trying to make.

The point I was making is, you're not training a cat to act like "another animal". You are training it to act the way YOU want it to act.

[Blarg]

I trained my cat to sleep in the sunshine, rub against my leg, and sit on a newspaper in under 5 minutes so they are pretty easy to train.

[Qalbert]

The point I was making is, you're not training a cat to act like "another animal". You are training it to act the way YOU want it to act.

which is closer to how the average dog acts, so if you don't want to spend as much time training it to act in that fashion, a dog is better

[Howie Roary]

I still say the average cat requires less training, and will behave better without need for correction than the average dog

[Qalbert]

its like if you have a 1 to 10 scale, with 10 being ideal behavior/friendliness/etc. cats start at a 5, dogs at an 8. obviously the numbers are fabricated, but im hoping this makes my point clearer. obviously theres a whole slew of other considerations at to what counts as a good pet, but if friendliness is your main concern, a dog is a better choice.

[Shiroikage]

cats rool

[Demosthenes]

which is closer to how the average dog acts, so if you don't want to spend as much time training it to act in that fashion, a dog is better

How the average dog acts? Want to see the "average dog", you look at wild dogs. House dogs are inherently trained by their owners without them really realising it (sometimes badly). If you want to say I train my cat the way most people train dogs, that is acceptable. Saying I train it to be a dog is simply incorrect.