Hardcore Discussion

**Fireal** · 2013-03-05 20:56

Ohhh, I forgot. I did sell an UNID Manticore for 10m. Currently trying to sell these two items. I wanna get 30ish for the xbow and 20ish for the mace. They didn't get any interest on jsp, so we'll see.

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Siralin · 2013-03-06 00:21

Just hit 60 for the first time in HC...looking ok?
Updated after upgrades before hitting the sack. We've been rolling mp10 hell with literally no sweat...haven't played in so long that I'm not sure if that's normal or not though.

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**Fireal** · 2013-03-06 05:08

Congrats on your first HC 60 :D

I don't play barb at all, my highest is 41, so Rora might be able to give you better advice, but.. I'm surprised you were running MP10. Well, I guess I'm not, but 18k dps seems low for that. By saying "we have been rolling MP10," I assume you were running with a group? How was their damage in comparison to yours? I powerlevel folks on MP10 with 50k dps, and elites still take a few seconds.

I like the LS and LoH, could maybe snag some LS in another slot (belt or sword? Idk where yours is), but I think you need to make some serious upgrades to your vitality. Doesn't take long to melt to pink disco lights unfortunately. I'd also recommend an upgraded Stormshield in the 30%+ department. I get you have 500k and upgrades will be a little slow, and you probably realize some of what I'm saying already, but I just wanna express my fear of you dying over-zealously :D Hardcore =/= Softcore in Inferno. Arcane Vortex is terrifying as melee, especially with a horde, waller or jailer affix, and I see those combo's way more often then I'd like. If I were you, I'd stick to mp0 a1 for a little bit. I think your dps and ar is plenty sufficient for that. I'll keep my eye out for barb gear that is decent. I may even have a few pieces. Feel free to add me Fireal#1158

Siralin · 2013-03-06 07:31

Its been either MNK + DH or MNK + WD ...DH obviously had pretty high DPS, but the MNK only just recently hit 60 too and has somewhere around 20k (not exatly sure where the WD is at on damage, but he mentioned it's less than his DH). Elites take a little bit to take down, but our HP never moves really. I've definitely been looking into more VIT and upgrading some of the straggler pieces that have been difficult to update. We planned on dropping it to MP0 and working through content (while farming a bit) without messing with MP until we clear or until we're sufficiently upgraded. DC randomly has a snow day today so I'll be on if anyone is interested in messing around in hell.PS I added you, thanks Fireal

**Plow** · 2013-03-06 09:32

Just remember even when you drop to 0 there will be shit in inferno a3/4 that will just obliterate you if you're not expecting it. I guess lacuni make act 2 semi-challenging for ranged, but the gap in damage done between a2 mobs and a3 mobs is still pretty nuts.

**Roranora** · 2013-03-06 09:34

Yeah congrats on your first 60! With that much LoH and your current setup, you're definitely good to start MP0 Inferno, surely to pick up some upgrades by A3. Just remember your LS will be cut more in Inferno (from -50% in Hell to -80%). While LoH is generally usurped by LS at end-game, most people say don't worry about making that switch until 80-100k+ damage. I've never reached that point, so I can't speak from experience.

One thing you may want to do is work in WotB somewhere for its CC break/immunity and life-saving capabilities. It's not something you have to do, but you'll have to remain diligently alert during some elite encounters. I'd hate to see you die from some Vortex/Frozen/stuff in a bad sequence.

I'll be eager to add you too and see if I can't help out as well. It'll be a couple more weeks still. Take care and stay safe. Hope you have some good luck in Inferno when you're there~

**Fireal** · 2013-03-07 07:10

Plow-- Nice to see you back on the hardcore thread, and more importantly leveling your Hardcore Diablo characters instead of playing stupid WoW :D Now, make Aurik do the same thing

Siralin · 2013-03-08 02:21

Belial was disappointingly easy.

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Ended up getting past Ghom and calling it for the night. Act 3 definitely ramped up a little in difficulty, but I think I still only hit half HP 2-3 times. Upgraded some gear, but still can't find a decent ring or hat with a slot and all resist ;;

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**Fireal** · 2013-03-08 02:24

Yah Belial is a huge let down now.. nerfed into oblivion. My first death was to Belial, normal mode @ L25!

**Fireal** · 2013-03-08 05:12

Mmmm, had a shitty day in terms of legends.. just some crappy Strongarm Bracers and an equally crappy Star of Azkaranth, but Hedrig was nice and salvaged two brimstones from rares, allowing me to craft 2 more amulets. One was pretty gnarly, missing cc or it'd be pretty close to gg. Upgraded my Hallowed Defender to a Stormshield, boosting my ehp 75,000. Also crafted some sick shoulders on my 1st try of the day. All-in-all, boosted my ehp by 120,000 and my dps by 23,000 today. Sadly, I'm down to 1 Tome of Secrets.. so after a quick farm and pickup of 11 Tomes tomorrow, I'll finish upgrading some Amethysts and try some MP3 A3.

Ollieyk · 2013-03-08 05:15

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/M.../hero/25093811

Joining the ranks of HC

Got pretty fucking lucky with my Amulet roll...It's probably better suited for SC but still, can't complain. Pretty happy with my bracers too. Now just need to figure out a way to boost up my VIT without costing dps ;(

**Fireal** · 2013-03-08 07:36

Yah thats a pretty good roll. Vit would make it gg, but close enough. I've never done an Archon build.. is that why your vit/hp so low? I'd be scared running around with less then 60k hp and prismatic armor xD

You can be more survivable by swapping out the Ruby in your helmet for a Amethyst, and the Topazes in the Marrow for Amethysts as well. Fast Paragon levels are fun and everything, but they become mute if you're dead :D Your rings are good, but could always swap a vit-rolled Hellfire for the Litany if you're worried about exp+.. but you lose AR, armor, and damage redux. Idk..

Ollieyk · 2013-03-08 07:44

Yah could do with pushing around 60k HP but with Improved Archon my AR is at 1200 and my Armor is at 9k without Prismatic. I also have 1600 Life Regen with Galvanizing Ward passive. I'm happy with my AR, happy with my DPS just need to boost up that HP without impacting too much on DPS / Life Regen. Might just swap out chest gems for VIT which would give me more than enough but at the cost of around 7-9k dps but would make things more comfortable when using Pinpoint Barrier.

Either way, MP0 is faceroll with this spec, i'm just hoping 570k EHP and 1600 life regen will be enough when I eventually d/c!

**Fireal** · 2013-03-08 07:55

Okay,that makes a little more sense. Like I said, I have no experience with Archon. 570k EHP and 1600 regen will NOT be enough, I promise you :D But.. really nothing you can do, Blizzard dropped the ball when implementing their horribad system to deal with disconnects. I still can't figure out why they didn't/won't implement a feature that pauses the game when you hit a certain ms/disconnect, and forces you to resume from the spot as to not encourage force disconnects to save characters. I mean c'mon, they can do it with Starcraft.. I lost a 1.2m ehp, 32% 6/7 Stormshield, Blur, UA a few days ago to a poweroutage.. she was super tanky.

Siralin · 2013-03-08 10:05

Just joining the ranks of HC? By the looks of it you've been there a while x.x crazy gear

Siralin · 2013-03-09 02:22

Well that was sooner than expected.

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**Fireal** · 2013-03-09 03:12

Cool Sira!

**Fireal** · 2013-03-09 16:32

I'm looking for a IAS/CD/LS/LoH <can only have one of those affixes, Chantodo's only rolls 1 random> Chantodo's Will with 1100+ dps.. willing to drop up to 50m on one. Let me know if you see one or get one or one of your friends or something. AH has been slim pickings lately. Also need to upgrade my Chantodo's Force, 210+ average damage with a vit or life % or APoC roll.

**Fireal** · 2013-03-10 05:24

Another pretty productive day for Magdalena (thx Rora LOL). Tonight she cracked the Top 100 in unbuffed dps and heroscore and the Top 50 in critical hit damage of all wizards on the Americas server. Also picked up 5 legendary items today and even though they were all junk and turned into Brimstone, orange shiny letters are always fun to see.

**Roranora** · 2013-03-10 08:24

it's Magdalena this time! (*'-');

I hope I can make some of the progress you've made look so easy. I'm 30k-ish on damage and never had more than 10mil -- nothing with which you could even fund gem upgrades, let alone gear. @@; Less than 2 weeks to go!

Keep getting good stuff and maybe an MJ's knife or two~ ;o

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