Hardcore Discussion

[Fireal]

LOL! I meant Magdalena :D I upgraded my source just now, it gave me +8.2dps (lol) but 5,000hp, which I'm gonna need when I lose the vitality on my current Strike Wand. I need to hit 2.01aps and 600-800 LoH before I start CM, but I'm getting damn close (you won't see it on diabloprogress, i have ias/cc rings stashed, working on an amulet, and a wand). I'd like to find 300 armor somewhere too to help balance my ar a little. So excited for permafreeze and twisters and cool explosions making even cooler noises every 1.5 seconds.

I can't wait for you to get home! I told Allison you were coming home in a few weeks (she calls you my boyfriend, lol), shes unexcited as it probably means even more Diablo :D Don't worry about your cashflow, it'll come. All it takes is one or two drops to get you an okay bankroll. I sold the Manticore and Echoing Fury in a matter of a couple hours, and went from 23m-65m rq. A lot of that 23m came from my gold-buying real life friend who will just randomly trade me a few mil here and there, a 10m UNID Manticore, and 10m from a socketed 850dps STR 2.8%LS Mighty Weapon. Just a little bit of gold can take you a long way, too. Its amazing what you can get for 3-4m per piece these days. Sure, they're not leetsauce endgame, but can definitely be enough to carry you into mp1 a3.

[Plow]

It's depressing that nobody at all ever uses the epic leveling build I'm using for wiz once you get to 60 heh.

Go palpatine on everything with the 6 chain + blizz + cold blood + meteor.

[Fireal]

Because critical mass is crazy cool and fun and so much button-mashing

[Ollieyk]

CM is insanely dangerous in HC though :-/ Unless you run lower MP's but there are much more efficient builds for that.

Are you running Bliz build full-time now Fireal? Or are you switching up to Archon? Always assume Archon was much more efficient and probably much safer in HC? Your stats would accommodate Archon so easily and you could probably pick up a massive dps boost from using a Triumvirate instead of Chantodos when running Archon.

[Fireal]

I have never done an Archon build. I've been thinking about doing some research and trying it out, my friend has been bugging me to do it because of my crazy cd numbers. I watched some Archon the Wizard vid's on youtube to get some background on CM, I gotta see if he has any Archon build videos up, which I'm sure he does. I run two builds right now, blizz/hydra and CM. My blizz/hydra gear is 110,000dps with 46% cc and 330% cd (lol..).. nothing like Piercing Orbs criting for 150-180k damage :D I feel really safe with that build on mp3 even though elites can sometimes be a little slower then I'd like, but no affixs are terribly frightening except reflect/horde and arcane/vortex.. but I just found a nice Unity this morning that would help greatly with that build with the LoH. I agree with the Triumvirate too over the Chantado's for blizz/hydra, just haven't bought another one since I lost my last wizard. My blizz/hydra wand is black damage, making the damage with Triumvirate awesome, I'll get another one eventually.. maybe today :D

I just started using CM yesterday. Its still a work in progress gearwise, but I'm decent enough to run it relatively safely on mp1. Running @ 90k dps with 2.04aps, 900 LoH, 1k regen, 46.5%cc, and only 170% cd. My Chantodo's is weak, just picked up a cheap one until I can find a good ias or cd one. I definitely won't run CM without Chantodo's set tho, the -7% elite damage is huge and the 130int doesn't hurt, and I think hitting the aps thresholds is too pricey/difficult without Chantodo's. It's definitely SUPER scary tho, lol. I'm still adjusting to the build and trying to take it slow, but the buttom-mashing and constant attention required has been a ton of fun so far. Having popped UA yet, but got close helping a friend get infernal machine plans. Hell Witch blue pack and kw were right on top of each other and the pull didn't go so smooth :D I wouldn't recommend anyone doing it tho, I'd hate to be responsible for their death :D

[Fireal]

Two UA procs tonight, but its all good.. still alive for now :D
Hit paragon 25, my new high, but it makes me wonder how Lily would have been doing if it wasn't for that damn tree branch falling on a power line. Maybe p35? Oh wellz :D
Did an uber run on mp6, went 0/3 on organs, which leaves me 3/9 overall. Still a Withering Eye short of a Hellfire tho :< Sigh...
Here's a picture of my pretty and shiny new ring I found on the ground in the Fields of Slaughter.
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[Ollieyk]

Unity's are so beast. Liking your setup Fireal but man, it must be scary as all hell in HC. You could definitely do with boosting up your AR ;-x Easiest way is 3-piece Zuni's I guess, if you were on EU I would happily lend you my 3-piece to test out

As for Archon, you should definitely try it out. Improved Archon gives you a massive AR boost so you can pretty much go all-out DPS as long as you have a decent starting level of AR. I've probably gone a little over the top on my AR as i'm sat at 1200 AR and 10k Armor in Archon but i can just happily stand in desecrate/poison pools/Arcane beams without having too many issues at all. If you need a hand with building an Archon set let me know.

Oh, and if you're looking for an instant upgrade, pick up some Zuni boots, that 8% poison damage boost is pretty insane...My boots give me 10k dps x_X

[Fireal]

Thanks for the input Olli, I always love hearing different ways to improve. I'm not much for looking up builds and such, I like to kinda do what works best for me, so any insight is always appreciated and listened to. I would honestly love a 3pc Zuni set, but so out of my pricerange right now. I am looking to get one of three pieces right next, either Zuni shoes, chest, or high/vit w/ +armor Blackthorn pants. The Zuni chest would be the last I get I think because I'm also looking for AR Tal Rasha's.. but again, crazy expensive for ar roll. I completely agree I need more ar.. I crafted a sliiight upgrade in bracers yesterday, but I've been having some shitty crafting luck lately :D I'm missing ar on a few pieces, I'll get there eventually :D

My CM is on the very low end of viable cm builds, I think I could be better/safer with, like you said, some more ar. Also a little more CD and vitality wouldn't hurt, so I might try crafting some vitality shoulders or gloves to kinda swap int for vit. The build in general is mosdef scary as hell in HC. Before yesterday, I had popped UA only once since the patch, but twice yesterday and once the day before using cm. Its beyond fun tho, hehe :D

[Plow]

I'm the same way, I like to figure out builds by looking at lists of changes to abilities I already know and shit, and then just experimenting. I'll definitely try out stuff people are doing, though. Looking into the crazy sweeping wind snapshot stuff atm.

[Fireal]

Errrm the wizzy APoC bug was fixed today. I wonder how this will affect my cm, being as I'm on the lowest threshold for Wicked Wind spins :D My have to stop CMing until I can get a Witching Hour or some ias on my amulet

[Fireal]

I love you JFrench. One more week of weird water then Stateside! Yay! :D

[aurik]

So yeah...continuing my questions from before...

1) I gather that I shouldn't be using MP before Inferno really because the HP increase scales faster than xp--except perhaps if I'm over-killing by a huge margin.
2) For my WD at 60, he has like ~280 all resist, 60k life, ~23k dps. Using garbage gear from 1.0.3 mostly. Is that inferno viable? I hear that minions are good now. Should I leave it on No Monster Power for progression?
3) Hell yeah, Diablo 3 is a lot of fun!

[Eanae]

Your all resist is really low for inferno. Honestly though all your stats are except your HP. Things will hurt a lot until 500ish, and even with 800-900 things like plague and fire chains will burn through your life like it was nothing.

[Siralin]

1) I gather that I shouldn't be using MP before Inferno really because the HP increase scales faster than xp--except perhaps if I'm over-killing by a huge margin.

In the last month or so, I've done ...2 Barbs to 60, 1 WD to 35, and a DH to 41 all using MP 10 until inferno. IDK if its the best or most efficient thing to do, but it certainly makes things a little more interesting.

Finally had my first set piece ever drop....of course it has to be shitty too.



later in the day when playing with Fireal... -_- at least this one is a little better?

[Fireal]

Green letters are always fun to see tho!! Sorry bout bad rolls on bad belt :< Can maybe make good amulet tho! Speaking of amulets.. WTB Brimstone!

..so are nomnom lacunis. was key farming a1 and came across these in festering woods just now :O

[Fireal]

RIP :<

[Roranora]

I love you JFrench. One more week of weird water then Stateside! Yay! :D

<3u2~

that's hilarious Allison calls me your bf >_>;

I can't wait to be back and done with this east africa crap

RIP :<

gaaahh ;/ that is an ugly SS the 2-3 plagues is plenty gross, neverminding the arcane

at least it was honorable! And man, hope to play with your next when I'm back; it's crazy how strong you've made 2+ chars in the time I've been gone. You'll def come back better!

So yeah...continuing my questions from before...

1) I gather that I shouldn't be using MP before Inferno really because the HP increase scales faster than xp--except perhaps if I'm over-killing by a huge margin.
2) For my WD at 60, he has like ~280 all resist, 60k life, ~23k dps. Using garbage gear from 1.0.3 mostly. Is that inferno viable? I hear that minions are good now. Should I leave it on No Monster Power for progression?
3) Hell yeah, Diablo 3 is a lot of fun!

AURIK! welcome back~ I think you're good to start off at MP0 Inferno with those stats, and you're sure to find some upgrades along the way. Absolutely keep it on MP0 for progression; the mlvl61 A1 mobs should seem pretty mellow for your WD. The biggest jump possible with monster power is 0 to 1 in A1/A2 Inferno as it will take all monsters up to mlvl63 along with the MP1 hp/damage bonuses. I have a couple of chars at A1 Inferno I've never progressed -- hopefully we can co-op as well when I get back. (next Thursday/Friday) Siralin you too!



Fireal...

[Ollieyk]

Unlucky Fireal ;( Time to gear up and level again! CM requires balls of steel in HC so much respect

Aurik:
1. I would run MP0 for levelling personally. As there are level requirements for Nightmare/Hell/Inferno progression you will always be at the required level for the next difficulty by the time you get through a playthrough so it's pretty much a waste of time. It does make levelling a little more interesting though!

2. Those stats are plenty for MP0 Act 1 and maybe Act 2 though Belial might be a struggle with those resists. You could afford to drop life for AR and keep similar DPS and you would be able to comfortably farm Act 3 with a Zombie Bears build.

3. It's getting there!

[Plow]

I like to do act 1/2 normal on mp10, you're 30 by the time you finish. It's maybe a tad slow til you get a gem weapon but it's not bad at all.

[Ollieyk]

Never really looked into it, but if i have the EU client on my machine, can i create an American account? Fancy levelling up some HC chars on US as the HC community seems to be far more active in the US...