Hardcore Discussion

[Roranora]

Yeah, you should just have to enable Global Play on your account, and then you're good to go.

If you like to level normally, I have several chars (lv1, lv8, lv38 DHs) I'm going to level up to 60 soon. If you want some powerlevel assistance, we can help on that front too.

[Fireal]

Yeah, mosdef can powerlevel you up. American hardcore community is pretty solid. I've met a few people via the official forums and haven't really met any bad chaps. Don't get me wrong, they're out there, like the dbags PKing people via vote kicks and waypoints, but its few and far between.. and now the vote kick thing has been fixed :D I'm the only fool that doesn't level alts (I can't help it, I get too attached to my wizzy!!), so I gotta get back to 60, give me a day or two, and then I'd be happy to powerlevel you up to 60 :D

[Fireal]

So yeah...continuing my questions from before...

1) I gather that I shouldn't be using MP before Inferno really because the HP increase scales faster than xp--except perhaps if I'm over-killing by a huge margin.
2) For my WD at 60, he has like ~280 all resist, 60k life, ~23k dps. Using garbage gear from 1.0.3 mostly. Is that inferno viable? I hear that minions are good now. Should I leave it on No Monster Power for progression?
3) Hell yeah, Diablo 3 is a lot of fun!

Holy crap I missed this post! Wb Aurik! I'd recommend sticking with mp0 until you feel comfy. Like Eanae said, bump your resists a little and maybe your armor.. I try to stay at a 10:1 AR:Armor ratio. WD is pretty beastly in hardcore too

[Fireal]

gaaahh ;/ that is an ugly SS the 2-3 plagues is plenty gross, neverminding the arcane

at least it was honorable! And man, hope to play with your next when I'm back; it's crazy how strong you've made 2+ chars in the time I've been gone. You'll def come back better!

Honorable indeed :D Its not even a little painful when you actually get to see it happen and try to fight through it, its just when you dc or lose power that it hurts :D I don't know if you'll get to play with the next Wiz, theres a good chance she'll die too before you get back.. but the one after that for sure, hehe :D

Well, mourning time is over. A new hero is born today, I shall now go level her!

[aurik]

I was able to run over A1I pretty easily with my WD. I did pick up a few dirt-cheap upgrade items on the AH (holy crap item power has inflated. 70+ all-resist items for sub 100k) so now I'm mid 400s all resist. At least in A1, my minions were never dying. Ended up just steamrolling it straight up, now I'm at the start of A2, paragon level 1.5!

I also brought my 53 Wiz out of storage, starting poking around in a2h and she feels more fragile than before I guess I should go read the patch notes from the last 9 months to see what I'm missing.

[Plow]

I did pick up a few dirt-cheap upgrade items on the AH (holy crap item power has inflated. 70+ all-resist items for sub 100k)

Yeah, I play SC but I had a really hard time deciding between gold+battlenet balance or gear to stash my money from before... holy fuck am I glad I went with moneys. Shit I had back then that was worth 10's to hundreds of millions is barely auctionable now, and gold that would have gotten me like 1 single trifecta stat back then will get me 2+ar+vit.

[Roranora]

I also brought my 53 Wiz out of storage, starting poking around in a2h and she feels more fragile than before I guess I should go read the patch notes from the last 9 months to see what I'm missing.

For those who play with normal/legit progression, Hell difficulty is some of the most dangerous territory, especially for untwinked Wiz/DH. And at 53, you can easily get another level or two in A1 if you want. You're at about dLvl -2 fighting A2 right now. Plus, the monsters are mostly a pain anyway -- leaping/immune lacuni, tedious wasps, annoying/immune melee snakes, dangerous and fast reviled, etc. I have a 56Wiz I need to top out, and she hit that pretty easily in A1 Hell.. granted I was on MP2 and used a solid weapon. If your Wiz is still sub-60 when I'm back, we could co-op those if you'd like. Warning: I'll be borderline annoying and co-op possibilities. I'm all for co-op; I got pretty bored and lonely soloing and haven't had really any co-op partners since Sept or so, maybe earlier. =/ Public games were really dangerous with vote-kick PKing (though just fixed in 1.0.7), Fireal just came back recently, and I've been gone pretty much since, so yeah. Friends and multiplayer, please please.

The biggest thing that's happened since you've left -- and the primary reason items are much stronger than what was available this summer -- is that items now have the budget of their affixes determined by mob level rather than item level. So, previously a mlvl 63 (A3/A4 mobs or -any- inferno monster on MP1+) dropping some item level 61 pants could only roll up to the 51-60 all resist affix. No longer is it necessary to obsessively farm A1 or A2 before advancing to the subsequent act. So many pieces are out there with Lv63 affixes, regardless of item level. You can probably stomp right through to Azmodan and farm A3 MP0 pretty comfortably as you're currently geared. I remember you were always appropriately cautious, and I don't see you having really any issues. Watch out for Keeps Level 1 fire walls. They still ignore all mitigation and can one-shot about 50k hp.

A few months ago, I'd warn you to watch out for some of the keywardens. Right after they were added they were easily the most dangerous monsters in the game, at least the A3/A4 ones. Sadly, they've been completely neutered beyond all recognition of their former selves. Just don't fight Nekarat (A4 keywarden always on Spire Level 1) with another pack. Even still you might be fine, but he's a terror demon with Jailer. It just could catch you off-guard til you're familiar with the him being there.

[aurik]

I think I figured out what's happened: in 1.0.5 they majorly nerfed energy armor, which I used to bank on heavily. To compensate, they reduced the damage output of monsters in inferno so it actually mathed out to a survivability buff in Inferno, but I think I'm at the point where hell is more difficult.

Anyway, I did a MP1 run of A1I from start->cain and it looks like the monsters are doing about 3x the damage--regular zombies hit for 4500~ instead of 1500~ minimum on my WD. Probably not worth my while to farm that yet.

[Roranora]

Yeah 61 to 63 is a big jump, but you'll be comfortable with it soon no doubt. There was a rework/reduction of almost all defensive skills (jungle fortitude 20% to 15% another example) and a reduction of damage output, yeah. Hell can be pretty tough, and it's forgotten/unnoticed by Blizz. Shit, my last death was an ISP d/c on an inferno-capable 60DH on hell diff helping Fireal. @Q@;

You'll want to farm A3 mp0 over A1 mp1 if going strictly by efficiency--at least until they adjust A1/A2 monster densities in 1.0.8.

I'm still pretty gimp relative to what many players have (like 33k damage on WD) and can do MP2/MP3 key runs safely albeit somewhat tediously. However, I have almost no sustainability in LoH or LS and end up relying on health globes a fair amount, something that you can't really do in a fight against MP5+ ubers. So I have a lot of keys and machines and still haven't fought them yet. I think I'll just "waste" some machines on a lower MP (3 maybe?) just to do it. That's another I want to organize a group for when I'm back.

[Siralin]

You'll want to farm A3 mp0 over A1 mp1 if going strictly by efficiency--at least until they adjust A1/A2 monster densities in 1.0.8.

I've been having really good luck with doing runs on A1mp1 over act 3. I've had realllly good luck doing festering woods -> leorics manor -> fields of misery -> the weeping hollow/crypts. Used to just clear the basements battlements then clear to siegebreaker and it seems like I end up getting more drops in a1 for some reason.

[Roranora]

A1 has pretty good elite density--Woods and Manor especially--but no zone comes close to the overall mob density in Keeps Lv2 or Craters 2 sadly. I don't really run either though -- I just run zones with unique spawns I lack and that's been terrible for loot so far, lol. Paragon 25 and best sale was a dagger for like 1.1mil. Still <10mil gold total and that doesn't buy anything in terms of nice legendaries/sets.

You can get lucky anywhere, but you can undoubtedly kill more enemies per unit time in a3 mp0 over a1 mp1. That's all I meant by the suggestion~

[Fireal]

Rora -- I don't know if you've been keeping up with blue posts while overseas, but they are planning on adjusting monster density and farming routes to make more then a3 viable/worthwhile in terms of xp (and elite kills)/hr. in 1.0.8. Yay!

After a snafu or two (three actually lol), I'm back at 60 and somewhat geared. I can do blizz/hydra mp1 again.. but still a little ways off from CMing again. Really just need a Chantodo set, but I'm being patient on getting the right ones.

Shit, my last death was an ISP d/c on an inferno-capable 60DH on hell diff helping Fireal. @Q@;

Fox died on his p60 barb powerleveling folks the other day. Was a sad day for the HC community :<

[Roranora]

Rora -- I don't know if you've been keeping up with blue posts while overseas, but they are planning on adjusting monster density and farming routes to make more then a3 viable/worthwhile in terms of xp (and elite kills)/hr. in 1.0.8. Yay!

You'll want to farm A3 mp0 over A1 mp1 if going strictly by efficiency--at least until they adjust A1/A2 monster densities in 1.0.8.

..in the same post of mine you quoted (*'-'); But yeah, it'll be nice when other acts are more comparable to A3. Also, I hate my OCDness with A Unique Collection--getting so tired of hunting them--cause it really creates some boring and annoying farming runs. I'm 68/82 still, quite a bit to go.

Yeah I saw that thread about Fox; that's too bad. ._.; My loss pales in comparison for sure.

[Fireal]

Haha, my reading comprehension fails :D

[Siralin]

Looking for opinions on where to go gear-wise now that I can make money. Super comfortable in a1mp1 and felt pretty comfortable in a3mp2 with the late Magdalena (Fireal). Obviously looking at things like IK body, belt, shoes, helm and definitely trying for more CC/CD, but I'm having trouble prioritizing. Especially having trouble with figuring out how to switch around the build when i know I'll be losing stats when i change one piece but plan on recovering them with a piece later on. (Since I can't buy all of them at once or whatever) Basically just looking for an idea of which to switch out first/where to go with the gear.

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Oh and Rora, no doubt the mob density is way better in a3.

Edit: figured out a work around for our a1mp1 v a3 debate...a3mp1! Easier than I thought it would be...still no drop though.
Double pack jailer arcane plague molten desecrate...luckily no vortex

[aurik]

Getting more comfortable with my toons again, my Wiz is now pushing decently fast through A2H, @56 now. I also found a brilliant toy for my monk, a -13req 1000dps daibo. Things die so fast!

I have no idea how you level so fast Fireal, wow....

[Fireal]

I do 1-25 on mp10 and use a flawless star ruby in L15 socketed weapon and star ruby in L15 helmet. 1-25 is like 2 hours.
Then I pay someone to powerlevel me from 25-60 and I wear 3pc Cains set :D
Total time... like 3.5 - 4 hours xD

[Fireal]

Sira -- I'm honestly not sure how to give you advice on barb gear. I know I always say I'm barb retarded, but I really am. I'm pretty much rtart towards anything that isn't a wizard. I like wizard. Can't you tell? I know the feeling of trying to upgrade gear without losing balance elsewhere and finding something to make up that imbalance but can't afford it, it sucks! You'll be painfully rich one day, just takes some nasty 12% Ice Climbers or a gnarly trifecta ring/amulet, just gotta deal with the growing pains until then xD

[Fireal]

Osnap, the critical mass wiz is back (and broke now!). Don't poke fun at the Triumvirate, I'll buy a Chantodo's Force as soon as a decent one hits the AH :D
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/F.../hero/32123764

[Ollieyk]

Ahh man, I spent 55m doing 4 Uber carries on EU HC on my Wiz on MP6 and only got 2 Vengeful Eyes Thinking of just knocking a Hellfire on the head and shooting for a 30% Leoric's...One downfall with the Wizard, i'm pretty well geared but wouldn't stand a chance on Ubers above MP0 and Key Drops take an age on MP0/1...