Hardcore Discussion

**Roranora** · 2014-02-12 22:30

remember that one time you leveled to 51 and got frozen desecrator died

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**Oxyminus** · 2014-02-13 22:11

Told you....50-60 is the worst!

**aurik** · 2014-02-26 03:53

Anyone got a bluegartr clan going yet?

E: trip report.
Did Act 1 through SK on Normal. 3 legendaries. Nothing dangerous whatsoever. Gained over a full paragon level (14.5->15.8). Lots of interesting loot to look at.
Had fun.

**Oxyminus** · 2014-02-26 06:16

I'm downloading the patch now. I'll be running Difficult to get a new toon to 60 ASAP. If someone starts a BG, particularly BG HC clan, throw me an invite!

**aurik** · 2014-02-26 15:46

Took my WD from ~24k damage rating and ~550k toughness to ~55k damage / ~700k toughness in a single normal run of Act 1. Went from Para 14.5 > 17.4.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/a...8/hero/1303591

Finding it really easy now having doubled my damage (legend sword drop was big). Might kick it up to Hard to continue my playthrough. Dropped Grue Feast for Pierce the Veil, as the pickup radius change hurts that skill badly.

**Oxyminus** · 2014-02-27 00:07

Started lvling a wiz on difficult setting. at lvl 20 about to go to spider caves. 3 legendary drops. 2 were useless (2-handed weapons lol) but the other is a dagger that should keep me going for a while. Super easy ride so far, but seeing upper tier affixes like mortar and arcane is a hoot!

**aurik** · 2014-02-27 02:22

Done to the end of act 2 now. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/a...8/hero/1303591
Found a really nice ring, and I've upgraded every slot save my shoulders and body. Up to 66k dps and ~950k toughness.
After I finish my normal walkthrough I will definitely be turning up the difficulty slider.

**Roranora** · 2014-02-27 11:14

I need to get on and get that pull monk up with you. He's like 30k / 500k or whatever he got to from D3V. Anxious to play with you guys again and do this 2.0 dance.

**aurik** · 2014-03-02 23:44

Played through campaign 2x now (on normal, then hard) and now starting a walk-through on Torment. I may drop down to Master for act-end bosses. Here are some of my thoughts.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/a...8/hero/1303591

Gear:
You really are looking for several of the following:
[defensive]
+200 or more to vitality -- more if on certain slots ie weapon
+armor
+resistance to all
+sockets (3 on chest / 2 on legs / 1 on helm / 1 on weapon)

[offensive]
+200 or more to primary stat -- more if on certain slots ie weapon
+% damage to an element type you are actively using
+% damage to a skill you are actively using
+crit chance

Most of my gear now has 3 of these stats. Once you get 4 it is going to be very hard to find something better.

You really want a healthy balance of dps and survivability. If you have too far on one side the game will either feel really slow or really dangerous. I've settled in at about 80k sheet dps / 1.1m toughness and Torment 1 is feeling killable, though farming I'd probably drop down to Master or Expert.

Using Hard as a baseline, here's how difficult that the various difficulties are:
Normal: 33% health, 43% damage
Hard: 100% health, 100% damage
Expert: 140% health, 125% damage
Master: 204% health, 162% damage
T1: 306% health, 216% damage
T2: 437% health, 293% damage
(etc...)

**aurik** · 2014-03-03 16:00

^ following my methodology, I found gloves today that were +2xx int, +2xx vit, +8x resist all and +14% to fire damage skills. Even though that pair of gloves isn't an upgrade for my current character, it is definitely worth keeping (or selling) for one that uses fire as a primary damage vehicle. "Quad-stat" items (as I like to call them) are still fairly rare to find.

I decided against continuing in Torment (xp/drop rate is noticeably lower due to lower kill speed) and instead I am starting a run-through on expert. In less than 1 hr, I was able to get 36 -> 37 paragon level, and go from the start to completing Wortham. It's likely that I should be playing on Master.

**Oxyminus** · 2014-03-06 01:14

Here's my wiz!: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/B.../hero/40283170

Doing my first run through the campaign, on Hard since the beginning, and I dinged lvl 51 just before killing Ghom. I'm at about 14k damage and 141k toughness. Not sure what numbers/ratio I should be striving for, but my balance feels solid for now. Have been running an arcane torrent + blizzard build, aided with keeping an eye out for resource cost reduction gear, and putting what few paragon points I have in resource reduction. Freeze a pack of mobs then burn them down. Really loving the new dominance passive skill. Can stand in the middle of mob packs and not take any damage. Should synergize well with the new passive that gives stat buffs for standing still.

Tomorrow I hope more progress towards 60. Though the 51-60 climb still scares me, too many bad memories!

**Arximiro** · 2014-03-06 11:14

Enemies scale to your level now so just go to an act where you feel comfortable, should be ok.

**aurik** · 2014-03-06 15:38

Ding paragon-50! Got my silver horns

**Roranora** · 2014-03-07 01:18

ok i'm back now, done one A1 Hard so far only

**fussel** · 2014-03-07 03:53

Returned to D3 a week ago, played my SC DH for a bit (she's not even 60 yet, lol), and now got infected by the HC thrill, too! \o/

Originally Posted by Oxyminus

2 were useless (2-handed weapons lol) but the other is a dagger that should keep me going for a while.

Also playing a wiz, but how is that Executioner I got useless?

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/w.../hero/36423035

Is anyone playing on EU servers?

**aurik** · 2014-03-07 05:48

Originally Posted by Roranora

ok i'm back now, done one A1 Hard so far only

I bet that pretty soon you'll be wrecking. My WD is now a whirlwind of destruction in Master, and I can do Torment just fine.
For fun and cheevos I've started doing the bosses in Torment. Ghom died in about 10 seconds, Azmo about 20 because my stupid pets went after a summoning totem.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/a...8/hero/1303591 Para 57.6!

**Roranora** · 2014-03-07 09:36

Interesting bit I noticed with oxybagel:

He had leveled a wiz 1-58 since 2.0, whatever gear you find. Upper 50s, he had like 2300 main stat. At the time, I only had 1800 dex on my monk (about a good, MP3 diff, P20 char from D3V days) with mostly d3v items. Once I can get 4k+ main stat like aurik, should be pretty solid.

Overall, I don't like the build I used last night, gonna change a few abilities next time I go. I guess I'm choosing monk for now, just splashing around until the 25th. So I'll link Jakuta after I have some build and thought/effort into new skills to share.

I want to get a Lv70 Wizard rolling asap. I think I will dominate with skill changes. Dunno, we shall shee

**Oxyminus** · 2014-03-07 14:55

At 60+20!

Running a lightning build I posted in the other thread. Running through Hard and melting mobs. Sheet numbers are a bit low so I'm not gonna push to a higher level yet.

**Roranora** · 2014-03-08 19:24

Okay I have Torment I monk and Expert~Master DH.

Kitana

**Oxyminus** · 2014-03-09 22:13

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/B.../hero/40283170

Hit P.40 today!

Sitting at 80k damage, 817k toughness, wrecking through Expert. The little bit I've dabbled in Master I'm safe, kill speeds are just slower. Might consider bumping anyway because xp is coming slower. Also feeling a bit stuck for now on upgrades, except where are you chest armor with 3 slots!

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