Fake Cop Killing People

[Brill Weave]

To be fair though for all she knows that cop could have been following her for twenty minutes Ace lol.

[jmc]

There is also a big difference between 15 seconds of extra driving to find a safe stopping point, and 3 minutes to find a spot.

[Churchill]

I'm going to call 911 every time I get lights behind me just to fuck with cops now.

[Chun Liroy]

Maybe it was DMX

[Melena]

This or something like it is what will happen.

My sister got ripped out of her car because she didn't pull over right away. She had music playing, was driving without mirrors, and that was the reason the cop was pulling her over. So she couldn't see the cop and didn't hear because of her music. When she turned a corner, she saw the cop and pulled over right away. Within about 30 seconds, 3 other cars swarmed her car and they yanked her out of the car with 2 officers' guns drawn and the third that was pulling her out slamming her to the ground and breaking 2 ribs. There was no "Show me your hands" or any other warnings. Just a body slam on a 19 year old female that weighed 110 lbs.

There is more to that story, but it's a prime example of what happens if you take 2-3 minutes to pull over when a cop lights you up.

Jesus christ how loud did she have her music so that she couldn't hear the cop hitting his siren to signal she needed to pull over?

[Acevalefor]

Jesus christ how loud did she have her music so that she couldn't hear the cop hitting his siren to signal she needed to pull over?

She played it loud. That was one of the tickets written on top of the several criminal charges that were subsequently dropped when they settled with her and gave her $2000 for the misconduct.

The cop told her that he was following her for 2 or 3 minutes. That's the only reason she knew how long it was. She was totally in the wrong for speeding, no mirrors, music loud enough that the cop could hear it over the other highway sounds while he was following her, no insurance, and not wearing a seatbelt. It all got dropped because of the adrenaline fueled actions of the police officers involved.

[Niiro]

You don't stop until they confirm it is a real cop.

To say nothing of the amount of time this would take making it not a realistic option; you're not only going to further annoy the officer when he sees you take out a cell phone and make a call but he's going to give you a ticket for it too.

[hey]

There is also a big difference between 15 seconds of extra driving to find a safe stopping point, and 3 minutes to find a spot.

Not to mention she likely showed no sign of stopping, which anyone who plans to would.

To say nothing of the amount of time this would take making it not a realistic option; you're not only going to further annoy the officer when he sees you take out a cell phone and make a call but he's going to give you a ticket for it too.

Like one minute? Maybe two?

[Tyrath]

So I had no idea you could call 911 to verify before you pull over lol..

I also had a friend of mine get pulled over once and she pulled into a parking lot literally a 100 feet ahead and he got all bitchy about it. Went off about how she needs to stop right away and on the side of the road. Even though it was a tiny 1 lane street. I guess it's okay to do that afterall huh?

[Melena]

She played it loud. That was one of the tickets written on top of the several criminal charges that were subsequently dropped when they settled with her and gave her $2000 for the misconduct.

The cop told her that he was following her for 2 or 3 minutes. That's the only reason she knew how long it was. She was totally in the wrong for speeding, no mirrors, music loud enough that the cop could hear it over the other highway sounds while he was following her, no insurance, and not wearing a seatbelt. It all got dropped because of the adrenaline fueled actions of the police officers involved.

She got incredibly lucky and i'm amazed she has any hearing left at that point.

[jmc]

So I had no idea you could call 911 to verify before you pull over lol..

I also had a friend of mine get pulled over once and she pulled into a parking lot literally a 100 feet ahead and he got all bitchy about it. Went off about how she needs to stop right away and on the side of the road. Even though it was a tiny 1 lane street. I guess it's okay to do that afterall huh?

plan cloth officer I would call to verify.

A officer in full uniform, in a fully marked cruiser is a different story though.

Well, unless your not from the area and have no idea what a marked car for the town or county look like.

[Acevalefor]

We have cops around here that are clearly identifiable from across a football field. Then we have Yamhill county cops that wear brown slacks with a black button-up shirt and a small name tag/badge that is unreadable unless you are within a couple feet. I can totally understand someone being uneasy and wanting clear identification when being pulled over by one of the Yamhill Co. officers. They have the utility belt and earbud radio, but I can get those from my local HAM radio shop.

Wasn't there a case several years ago where a guy was rolling around in a police cruiser "arresting" young women and raping them?

I can see why this guy can get away with this so easily. In my AAA truck, I had white strobe lights in the front and red strobes in the back. It looked nothing like a cop car, but if I accidentally left those on after clearing a roadside call, I would have people pulling to the side of the road when I approached. They will pull over for anyone that has flashing lights.

[Woozie]

Moral of the story: finding a safe spot in which to pull over sounds good in theory but it's terrible in practice because apparently cops hate that.

Also, I had another question to ask but can't remember because I got distracted by Brill's sig for like 2 minutes and lost my train of thought (seriously).

[archibaldcrane]

She got incredibly lucky and i'm amazed she has any hearing left at that point.

Cops break two of your ribs?

Incredibly lucky.

[Eurell]

If you call to make sure its a real cop, won't they contact that officer over the radio or something? So he'll know exactly why you didn't stop. I doubt someone is gonna get thrown from their car or have a gun pointed at them if the cop knows whats going on.

[Salodin]

I agree, I was being pulled over once and there was a narrow shoulder. The exit to the airport I was driving to was another 3/4 of a mile away, so I slowed down to half the speed limit and got on the shoulder but kept driving. I got about half way there before his lights turned into sirens wailing with lights, so I just stopped right there. He asked why I didn't pull over right away and I explained that the shoulder is narrow and the highway sucks, it'd be safer for us both to wait for the exit. He said don't worry about it, not a big deal, but appreciated the concern and let me go with a warning.

Shit was awesome lol.

[hey]

Moral of the story: finding a safe spot in which to pull over sounds good in theory but it's terrible in practice because apparently cops hate that.

No it's not, unless your in the middle of nowhere and the nearest parking lot is 100 miles away.

if they complain, just say the last time you were pulled over the cop was killed by a drunk driver, and you didn't want that to happen to him.

If you call to make sure its a real cop, won't they contact that officer over the radio or something? So he'll know exactly why you didn't stop. I doubt someone is gonna get thrown from their car or have a gun pointed at them if the cop knows whats going on.

Yes.

[archibaldcrane]

I'd rather deal with the extremely, extremely rare chance that the cop is not a real cop and is coming to kill me, than the likely to very likely chance that I'll severely piss off the cop if I take 5 minutes to verify he's a real cop while he's following me, lights and siren blasting.

[Nephlite]

Wait, really? I thought you were supposed to put your car in park, take the key out of the ignition and put it on the dashboard and keep your hands on the wheel. I've never been pulled over. What exactly am I supposed to do if I ever do get pulled over, and why shouldn't I put my car in park? What should I put it in?

Usually you should stop when reasonable, and keep your hands on the steering wheel in view. Keep your windows rolled up till the officer knocks on your window and identifies themselves (script is usually "Hello sir/ma'am i'm Officer Suchandsuch with the Metro Police. The reason I stopped you today is (this). May I see your drivers license etc.")

A lot of times (and I can attest to this) when you hit the siren, they jump 3-4 lanes to pull over, slam the brakes, nearly kill someone before actually stopping. Therefore, the DC Police made the DMV give guideline speeches when issuing licenses that basically tell you to pull over when reasonable, in a well lit area, keep your hands on wheel, don't get out and such and such. Reasonable can translate to a lot of different things depending on the jurisdiction but if there's a nice pull off and street lights are on, it's not reasonable to go three exits down and look for a gas station.

But on the same line of thinking, if you're driving the speed limit, not being evasive, and the stop isn't a felony, there's no applicable law to charge you with fleeing and eluding alone as it's an aggregating charge and not a standalone charge. To charge you, they would have to have something arrestable to hit you with like reckless driving or possession with fleeing and eluding as an aggregating charge to hit you with that 1.5times penalty (depending on the jurisdiction).

[Woozie]

Usually you should stop when reasonable, and keep your hands on the steering wheel in view. Keep your windows rolled up till the officer knocks on your window and identifies themselves (script is usually "Hello sir/ma'am i'm Officer Suchandsuch with the Metro Police. The reason I stopped you today is (this). May I see your drivers license etc.")

A lot of times (and I can attest to this) when you hit the siren, they jump 3-4 lanes to pull over, slam the brakes, nearly kill someone before actually stopping. Therefore, the DC Police made the DMV give guideline speeches when issuing licenses that basically tell you to pull over when reasonable, in a well lit area, keep your hands on wheel, don't get out and such and such. Reasonable can translate to a lot of different things depending on the jurisdiction but if there's a nice pull off and street lights are on, it's not reasonable to go three exits down and look for a gas station.

But on the same line of thinking, if you're driving the speed limit, not being evasive, and the stop isn't a felony, there's no applicable law to charge you with fleeing and eluding alone as it's an aggregating charge and not a standalone charge. To charge you, they would have to have something arrestable to hit you with like reckless driving or possession with fleeing and eluding as an aggregating charge to hit you with that 1.5times penalty (depending on the jurisdiction).

Wait, don't roll down my window until they come? In my car, I can't roll the windows up or down unless I start my car up. So my options would be to either roll down the window immediately and turn my car off, or to leave my car on or turn it on when the cops come so I can roll my window down.