D3 builds thread

[arus2001]

I guess the proximity of it bugs me. Maybe I need to get over the stereotype of wizard classes being squishy, as this incarnation is curiously not the case, but coming from DH to Wiz, I think I have more of a "Kill it before it gets close to me..." mentality going on.

[Cyn]

Thrown Blades has a decent range, that's why I use it. By the time an enemy (or horde of them) walks through a blizzard from the full distance it hits, they've been hit by it about 5 times. It also lets your VH stack up a lot of pools right in front of you, so anything trying to hit you is taking retarded amounts of damage.

[Deadgye]

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculato...UVk!ebZ!ZYcZcc

So yeah this is definitely my favorite build right now. I want to fit whirlwind in there, but I think I need to get my crit rate higher than its current 32.50% (before buffs) before I can take off revenge.

I considered switching to a 8 second barb and some other builds.. but there's just something about ignoring Nightmarish/Frozen/Vortex/Jailer/Knockback that I can't get away from. Not to mention never going into hit/block-stun against stuff like fire chains is sex.

[BaneTheBrawler]

I've been doing something similar, but I geared for hp/sec for heals instead of relying on Revenge, since my luck is awful and even with Provocation it never procs when I need it. I only have 11231 hp, but my hp/sec is 1146, with health globe bonus of 1903 and life/hit of 233. My armor is 8666 and my lowest resist is 664.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculato...ikP!bVe!YZZYcc

The crit fury generation is really nice because it works for ANY crit.... including Throw Weapon and the Tornadoes from Sprint. Even though my crit rate is only 12% it allows me to keep Wrath up even when standard tank-and-spank isn't feasible, which applies whenever I'm faced by a large group of monsters. If the groups drop down to about 3-4 I need to stop and use Bash to keep fury generation up, but by that time they're usually damaged enough that I can just tank them.

Unfortunately, I've only really used this in act 1 inferno, as my friend and I are both still slightly under geared for act 2. So Idk how it will work in later acts. However, I was able to tank-and-spank The Butcher (And the flaming floor panels) as long as the floor panels stopped being on fire for a few seconds. I had problems once the floor panels started being pretty much always on, but once my Wizard friend switched around to do more dps, we were able to kill him before he got to that point.

Edit: Also, I'd say I spent less than 150k on the whole set of gear. Most of the items were less than 20k, but a few got as high as 50k. Search conditions of 60-60, resist all 50, life/sec 100, armor 200, and then look for any decent upgrades with really low minimum bids. I almost got a bitchin axe for 150g but I got outbid while I was asleep and it sold.

[Karbuncle]

I cannot beat Belial Inferno, Any tips as Demon hunter?

I can get up to fighting Belial, But The snakes + Belial rape me, I always die... I can't kill them quick enough and I run out of Discipline... I just...

Anyone beat him? What skills/runes did you use ?

[kisada]

how much dps you got? i don't remember mine but i think it was in the 30k territory when i first beat him. it took me an embarrassing number of tries. when i eventually won i used a setup based on trying to survive, which is listed below.

i used ss/fog, MFD/hate rune, vault, and preparation with backup plan. primary secondary was hungering/devouring and nether tentacles. i used the templar for the extra hate regen. i believe i was using sharpshooter, TA, and nightstalker as well.

my strategy was to basically camp right inside the right rail until you can't move anymore. this forces any snakes coming from the other side to line up for an non-stop stream of NT. anything that popped next to me i took out with HA to try and conserve hatred. once anything got close i'd use SS, which would give me more than enough time to get some breathing room.

once phase 2 started i'd mark him and do a straight line backwards kite with NT. then once he started to shoot projectiles i just stood there and spammed smoke/NT to get into phase 3 before more snakes arrived. this was always the hardest part of the fight for me.


once you're in phase 3 it's pretty simple. mark him, pound NT and dodge the green things. make sure to give a wide berth on the green targets when he's doing the physical slams. when he gears up for breath stay as far to one side as possible so you can try and avoid using smoke. when he starts dropping meteors take your time in moving from spot to spot and don't panic. if you get locked in between targets or you think you are too close but can't tell, just smoke and get to safety.



now, this was my winning strategy back when i had kinda crappy gear. i did it maybe a week later for fun and beat him in one try with a much different setup. i realized i didn't need TA or vault because if you replace them with bat/DPS skills you're better off. you'll advance phases a lot faster and you won't be so reliant on your discipline pool to survive a battle of attrition, which is a gamble. another advantage to not having TA was it caused me to be more patient and not spaz out every time i smoked up. i was more stationary which let me focus more on shooting things, and it especially helped with the meteors because i didn't run too fast and into bad spots. as it turns out i learned how to ditch TA while farming A3 and my efficiency skyrocketed.

gl

[Karbuncle]

DPS is 43k with Archery and Steady Aim. Outside of that, I finally won with a pick up group, was originally 4 people, but two dropped, and me and a Monk Duo'd it.

I /wrecked/ his second form. MFD/Mortal Enemy = Infinite Hatred with Nether Tents... It was dead really quick.

Thanks for the advice

[kisada]

trying to compare some gloves i got vs ones i own. currently wearing the ones on the left. with sharpshooter on and maxed i get the "20k dmg" boost when i switch. when it's off or at 0 it's -3k dmg to switch.

not really sure which to keep, esp. given the incoming IAS nerf.

thoughts?

[Karbuncle]

Well, Attack speed is going to be nerfed, Honestly, I'd keep both and wait til after IAS Nerf and see which is better.

[Iku]

I am thinking of ditching IAS speed and stacking up crit chance. Also, I would dual wield 1hbow with Crit dmg and sockets.

[miokomioko]

The IAS gloves will probably still show an increase in DPS even after those are knocked down from 16% to 6%.

[kisada]

link to help people identify what gear is better for DH

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...QVl93MEE#gid=0

[kisada]

any DH's out there want to try chakram with razor disk for a little bit?

been playing with it and the animation feels really sluggish and more unresponsive while kiting, compared to other abilities. i'm pretty sure of it but i'd like to know what other people think in case it's just me.

[Bartylby]

i've used frost arrow with cull the weak to great success... unfortunately my survivability is shit so i had to completely rethink my gear lol

[Weltall]

What is the best 1.03 Wiz build now with average to below average gear?

[kisada]

so what are you guys playing DH doing nowadays?

[Drai]

so what are you guys playing DH doing nowadays?

For non bosses i'm doing Bola with Acid rune combined with Elemental Shot and Ball Lightning
Shadow Power with increased Life steal rune
Vault with Action shot
Sentry with Rockets
Rain of Vengance with Stampede

For bosses I really only swap the Acid rune on Bola for Lightning rune for omg stuns, and shadow power for caltrops with increased slow rune, usually works out pretty well for me but i'm open to suggestions

Also passives, Archery, Steady Aim, and the one that gives Hatred and Dicipline for each red orb collected

[kisada]

if anyone would like to help me test out some stuff, try out cluster arrow for a few runs with cluster bombs and then do the same with loaded for bear instead. i think CA/CB has more damage potential but it is somewhat unwieldy and i'm not sure just how many grenades you can get to hit with the way it works. with LFB you get the direct hit but you don't get a bunch of 230% dmg bombs the way you do with CB.

messing around with it myself and i'll post observations later. would like to know if it helps others, which makes their runs better, and if it's a better alternative to what they're currently using.

[Dimmauk]

I was using entangle with justice and loaded for boar as primary and secondary. Caltrops, SS, bat, prep. It works good. Thinking about using shadow with gloom instead of SS.

[kisada]

i'm using shadow/gloom right now where i never used to before. i wouldn't go so far to swap it with SS because i can still get 1 shot, but if i ever get my HP to 40k it would be a lot more viable for me.