FFXIV 2.0 Screenshots from E3

[Kurokikaze]

There will be blood in the street if that happened and it goes against what was said by Yoshida, the director AND producer, said when it was announced. He knows that kind of announcement would be a bullet to the head for this game after all the work they did, its not happening so don't worry over it. The only likely thing I see happening is we would need to buy the retail PS3 version if we wanted to play it on the PS3, if you bought it on PC already, you get 2.0 for free.

I'm about 90% sure that'll end up being the case. Would be nice if buying either or meant you could have both but yeah...

[Burningthought]

But the "same game" won't exist any more; 1.0 will be gone. And while SE certainly won't lock legacy players out of 2.0 entirely, I haven't seen anything that definitively excludes the possibility of 2.0 being an "expansion." You might have to buy retail 2.0 in order to unlock PvP/summons/free companies/chocobo raising/the rest of new 2.0 content, but if you just want to play a reworked XIV with new graphics, there's no extra charge for that.

Maybe I am being a Debbie Downer here, but if you look at the expansion timelines for XI, as well as the fact that most of the XI expansions releases coincided with XI being opened up to a new region or platform... I can't help but feel that (like the decision to return to P2P) Yoshida will receive an edict to directly monetize 2.0's release.

This isn't going to happen. If anything they'll require people who want to play on PS3 to buy a copy of the PS3 version just like XI's platformed releases. If they were planning on charging players for 2.0 access they would've been up front and given us notice way ahead. I'm fairly certain if you own a retail key for XIV and have an account registered you'll be fine. I'm sure the only thing they'll do to monetize 2.0 is release a standard and collectors edition version for $50-60 with some claimable items or some shit.

Edit: Just wanted to throw in that i'm completely fine with buying the PS3 version to get access on my PS3. I did the same thing with XI.

[rezn0r]

don't have links readily available but just from the recent timeline chart they released i thought it was pretty clear you'd get the 2.0 client download as a sort of patch that went right into the beta/launch of 2.0. it's not that complicated. i'm all for people assuming the worst but before reading the last few pages of this thread the thought wouldn't have even entered my mind as to current players needing to buy jack shit for a full version of 2.0.

[brozy]

there really does seem to be a lot of tinfoil hat theorys about having to rebuy it for v2.0 but think of it this way: Cata comes to wow the whole shabang gets an an overhaul and its all completely free if you already have an account, be it a WotLK one or just a trial account everyone gets it for free, the only diffrence with that is that cata was an expansion so you had to buy it for the actual expansion content and nowhere has it ever been stated that v2.0 is an expansion but it has been stated that it is an overhaul so take your hats off the only way they'll charge you for anything v2.0 related is if you want another account if you already have one

[Spira]

nope they said it before.. 2.0 will be free to all existing players and anyone who owns XIV already.
because each game comes with the reg code I'm assuming they mean that as long as you have XIV tagged to your Square-Enix account, you already own 2.0

as for the PS3, yes. you're going to have to buy the PS3 version of to play on it (as is the case with FFXI, but you only need it for the installation disc/data, not the code so you can probably sell its reg code to someone else), but not for PC 1.0 -> 2.0.

[Burningthought]

nope they said it before.. 2.0 will be free to all existing players and anyone who owns XIV already.
because each game comes with the reg code I'm assuming they mean that as long as you have XIV tagged to your Square-Enix account, you already own 2.0

as for the PS3, yes. you're going to have to buy the PS3 version of to play on it (as is the case with FFXI, but you only need it for the installation disc/data, not the code so you can probably sell its reg code to someone else), but not for PC 1.0 -> 2.0.

I really thought this was common sense. Why would SE cannibalize the relaunch with stupid shit like charging for 2.0? At least SE isn't that dense. Another thing that has peoples panties in a knot is the whole re-customizing your avatar and keeping your stats. Some people seem to think that they're gonna lose everything at 2.0 and will have to start over lol.

[Gokulo]

Yeah, some stuff people really need to get a grip and use their brains at least a little - some stuff I see people worrying about is just too insane and unrealistic.

[Elcura]

Yeah, some stuff people really need to get a grip and use their brains at least a little - some stuff I see people worrying about is just too insane and unrealistic.

Agreed, but you have to wonder about the company that instilled such madness.

[Jamison]

I can't help but feel that (like the decision to return to P2P) Yoshida will receive an edict to directly monetize 2.0's release.

If it's as good as it should be, it will be monetized with new players buying, PS3, potential other platforms down the road.

[Kurokikaze]

Among our new plans is the fundamental reworking of in-game maps. As part of this process, there will be a period required for switching over to a new client and new servers, after which there will be a large transfer of data when service is brought back online. After the new client is completed, new software for the PC version will be distributed online, and can be acquired free of charge. Character data and progress for players already playing the PC version will also be preserved, allowing those players to continue using their in-game avatars. Another announcement will be made in the future as the day on which the new FINAL FANTASY XIV software will become available for download draws near, and the PlayStation®3 system version officially released.

^ this is from October 2011 on the Lodestone. So drop it already.

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...ser/index.html

[Kurokikaze]

I don't think that the Square-Enix management site distinguishes between PS2 or PC version of FFXI (cant check). Nor does it say anything about FFXIV (PC ONLY). So looking back at FFXI... why did you need to buy the PS2/360 version if you only needed the code? Because the game was not up for download and distribution method for a client (back in PS2 days) was not feasible.

Guess what I'm trying to say is that there is still a small chance (if they allow PS3s to download the client) that you won't need to buy that version if you already have a PC version registered. Just saying/thinking out loud here.

Assuming 2.0 succeeds, I still plan to purchase the PS3 version just cause. ;x

[Alkar]

I don't think that the Square-Enix management site distinguishes between PS2 or PC version of FFXI (cant check). Nor does it say anything about FFXIV (PC ONLY). So looking back at FFXI... why did you need to buy the PS2/360 version if you only needed the code? Because the game was not up for download and distribution method for a client (back in PS2 days) was not feasible.

Guess what I'm trying to say is that there is still a small chance (if they allow PS3s to download the client) that you won't need to buy that version if you already have a PC version registered. Just saying/thinking out loud here.

Assuming 2.0 succeeds, I still plan to purchase the PS3 version just cause. ;x

I'm pretty sure it's said in the game manual that you'll need to purchase the PS3 version in order to register that version to your account. And I honestly doubt someone would want to download FFXIV on their PS3 HDDs lol.

[Spider-Dan]

^ this is from October 2011 on the Lodestone. So drop it already.

That statement does not address whether some new 2.0 content would require the purchase of an expansion.

I don't dispute that legacy players will be able to log in to 2.0 and play their existing character. The issue that concerns me is whether the entirety of 2.0 release content will be at-no-extra-charge. The amount of content they are adding is entirely consistent with what would normally be an expansion; if they are going to give that away in the name of goodwill, awesome. But I wouldn't be surprised if there is some new content at 2.0's release that requires purchase-to-unlock, and I would be outright shocked if the PS3 release comes and goes without SE reaching into the pockets of the PC base.

[Egon]

Some of you guys just make stuff up to argue. Grow up.

[GavinBandura]

Is it too sensible to say, just wait and see?

[Alkar]

There's no need to wait and see. They're making the new version to apologize for their massive failure 2 years ago and said back in October that if you have the game already you won't have to pay any extra for 2.0.
Some people simply like to argue and come up with the most stupid arguments to do so.

[Burningthought]

^ this is from October 2011 on the Lodestone. So drop it already.

http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...ser/index.html

That pretty much settles it. Any other discussion on this is just shameful circlejerking.

[TacoTaru]

That statement does not address whether some new 2.0 content would require the purchase of an expansion.

I don't dispute that legacy players will be able to log in to 2.0 and play their existing character. The issue that concerns me is whether the entirety of 2.0 release content will be at-no-extra-charge. The amount of content they are adding is entirely consistent with what would normally be an expansion; if they are going to give that away in the name of goodwill, awesome. But I wouldn't be surprised if there is some new content at 2.0's release that requires purchase-to-unlock, and I would be outright shocked if the PS3 release comes and goes without SE reaching into the pockets of the PC base.

[Thiefami]

lmao, they've reiterated time and time again that there will be no extra charge for those who have purchased an original copy of XIV. What are you going on about?

[TacoTaru]

No see, it's the EXTRA 2.0 stuff that they're charging for; the expansion stuff. You still get the normal 2.0 stuff for free, but the extra 2.0 stuff is what you pay for.