Relic Weapon Revival (06/06/2012)

[Grey Jorildyn]

Pretty sure they removed those drops from stronghold mobs awhile back.

[Rocl]

You still get willowknots in Natalan, but as far as I can tell neither mapleknots nor ebonknots.

[Jamison]

So was there any consensus on which weapons will need which currency?

[Raldo]

You still get willowknots in Natalan, but as far as I can tell neither mapleknots nor ebonknots.

I thought the verdict was that you could get [type] OR [type] OR [type]? Willowknots should be fine by themselves, no?

[Rocl]

So was there any consensus on which weapons will need which currency?

Rumour/Speculation w.e. that it'll be based on the NM you kill during the quest, which I've heard is based on your city? i.e., LNC guild is grid so you kill Natalan NM so you need ixali currency, PGL guild is uldah so you kill Zahark NM so you need amaljaa currency. No idea though, I don't know anyone personally who's progressed ;\

I thought the verdict was that you could get [type] OR [type] OR [type]? Willowknots should be fine by themselves, no?

Yeah but you need 10x as many willowknots as the others and tbh I'd rather keep one stack of items on me. Unless all these people are already on that step and I'm just dumb.

[Enygma55]

So was there any consensus on which weapons will need which currency?

Consensus is the type needed is related to the area ur guild is in. So DRG being based in Grid is Ixali related. MNK based in Uldah is Amal'ja.

[Raldo]

Yeah but you need 10x as many willowknots as the others and tbh I'd rather keep one stack of items on me. Unless all these people are already on that step and I'm just dumb.

Ooohhh, I hadn't thought of inventory space... that makes sense. I'm not shooting for a relic, so that didn't cross my mind.

[Niiro]

Based on that WAR would be the only weapon to use Kobold currency.

[Ratatapa]

Any place to see the full steps (that are released)

Thanks

[Rocl]

Consensus is the type needed is related to the area ur guild is in. So DRG being based in Grid is Ixali related. MNK based in Uldah is Amal'ja.

Based on that WAR would be the only weapon to use Kobold currency.

Relevant update to these two posts: jp sites, various rumors going around that the currency follows the guild/city pattern excepting for WHM & BLM which require Kobold NM as well, and therefore their currency.

That'd be: Amaljaa currency for MNK&PLD, Ixali currency for BRD&DRG, and Kobold Currency for WAR, BLM & WHM

Also, just so all the relic-related items are accounted for:
You use the Isghardian book, Allagan band, and Oschon's Finger in addition to beastmen currency to purchase the "relic book."

To recap, since above is too lazy to google or spend fifteen minutes looking on this or any other forum and decided to refrain from using the RQT:

Spoiler: show

Get 9 hamlet seals (3 inferno, 3 vortex, 3 tremor) hopefully from 60,000+ chests so you don't spend four years doing Hamlet and give them to Rowena while in possession "On the Properties of Beastmen" (which is 25,000 grand company seals) to get a Soiled Promissory Note which allows you to start the quest at Gerrolt at the Hawthorne Hut.

Apparently, since I obviously haven't gotten this far this is all conjecture/rumour/forum posts, the next step is to kill the Beastmen NM in their stronghold (for an "ancient/damaged" version of the relic) and then trade in a double melded class weapon. I said it above but:
Ahylogg Rah for Monk and Paladin
Lozol Totoloq for Bard and Dragoon
3rd Order Patriarch for Warrior, White Mage and Black Mage

The class-weapons and respective materia are as follows:
Mailbreaker with two Heaven's Eye IV for PLD
Avengers with two Manathirst IV for MNK
Obelisk with two Savage Might IV for DRG
Sarnga with two Heaven's Eye IV for BRD
Rampager with two Touch of Rage IV for WAR
Astrolabe with two Hell's Fist IV for BLM
Alkalurops with two Mind IV for WHM

Then you are sent to collect 3 Miser's Mythril in Aurum Vale. A sixth chest will now spawn in Aurum Vale when you complete it (afaik it always pops?) and the items go directly to you when you open (a la primal weapons). The drop rate of Miser's Mythril seems to be incredibly low unless you speed run (and 5 chest?) under 17 minutes in which case the drop rate raises astronomically (100%?).
Then you do the same in Cutter's Cry except for 3 Alumina Salt, and this must be done after the Aurum Vale step(?). Again 17 minutes seems to ensure drop.

You are now sent to collect a piece of literature on the Relic, I don't know if you just go to Gerrolt with this shit or not, but I assume so. In order to get the Relic books you need the following:
Enchiridion, which seems to drop from Dzemael Darkhold in a sixth chest a la the above step. Current conjecture I've read says under 15 minute (5 chest etc) ensures a drop, but that's a crazy moonspeak site.
Oschon's Finger, which comes from high-level Caravans in as of yet unknown manner to me.
Allagan Band, which drops from the boss of any Behest at the Lv40 camps that don't host Company Leves. For the stupid, that's Nine Ivies, Broken Water, and Iron Lake. You can obtain this item before you get to this step, unlike the above four items.
Beastmen Currency, which again you can get beforehand, in an amount of your choosing. The type of currency seems to correspond to the NM you killed for the broken weapon above. In the screenshot posted earlier, for example, they were doing Gae Bolg so they needed 990 willowknots, 495 mapleknots, or 99 ebonknots.

After this step I am even less sure, but it seems you obtain the "Unfinished (insert Relic name here)" items now.
Prevailing theories following this step:
Raise spiritbond on the Unfinished Weapon to max. (Note that the Unfinished Weapons "inhibit spiritbond," so I imagine this is rather annoying grind.)
Apparently some sort of Faction Leve exists which can now be flagged after the above spiritbond step which requires you to defeat an NM while equipped with the Unfinished Weapon.
Then you must clear Garuda and Ifrit (Extreme) while equipped with the Unfinished Weapon.

As the rumors go, the Primal fights are the final step and you are then bestowed with God's glory in the forum of a Relic Weapon you sick no-life bastard who's conned so many people out of Dynamis Currency after four years of hard work.

edit: explaining that took too long, so spoiler, and you're lucky i'm bored enough to write all that up (actually i just wanted to jam all the info in one place that i can find easily cuz i'm liable to forget shit i've read)

[shepardG]

I thank you, atleast ^^

[Odin'sLaw]

Relevant update to these two posts: jp sites, various rumors going around that the currency follows the guild/city pattern excepting for WHM & BLM which require Kobold NM as well, and therefore their currency.

That'd be: Amaljaa currency for MNK&PLD, Ixali currency for BRD&DRG, and Kobold Currency for WAR, BLM & WHM

Also, just so all the relic-related items are accounted for:
You use the Isghardian book, Allagan band, and Oschon's Finger in addition to beastmen currency to purchase the "relic book."

To recap, since above is too lazy to google or spend fifteen minutes looking on this or any other forum and decided to refrain from using the RQT:

Spoiler: show

Get 9 hamlet seals (3 inferno, 3 vortex, 3 tremor) hopefully from 60,000+ chests so you don't spend four years doing Hamlet and give them to Rowena while in possession "On the Properties of Beastmen" (which is 25,000 grand company seals) to get a Soiled Promissory Note which allows you to start the quest at Gerrolt at the Hawthorne Hut.

Apparently, since I obviously haven't gotten this far this is all conjecture/rumour/forum posts, the next step is to kill the Beastmen NM in their stronghold (for an "ancient/damaged" version of the relic) and then trade in a double melded class weapon. I said it above but:
Ahylogg Rah for Monk and Paladin
Lozol Totoloq for Bard and Dragoon
3rd Order Patriarch for Warrior, White Mage and Black Mage

The class-weapons and respective materia are as follows:
Mailbreaker with two Heaven's Eye IV for PLD
Avengers with two Manathirst IV for MNK
Obelisk with two Savage Might IV for DRG
Sarnga with two Heaven's Eye IV for BRD
Rampager with two Touch of Rage IV for WAR
Astrolabe with two Hell's Fist IV for BLM
Alkalurops with two Mind IV for WHM

Then you are sent to collect 3 Miser's Mythril in Aurum Vale. A sixth chest will now spawn in Aurum Vale when you complete it (afaik it always pops?) and the items go directly to you when you open (a la primal weapons). The drop rate of Miser's Mythril seems to be incredibly low unless you speed run (and 5 chest?) under 17 minutes in which case the drop rate raises astronomically (100%?).
Then you do the same in Cutter's Cry except for 3 Alumina Salt, and this must be done after the Aurum Vale step(?). Again 17 minutes seems to ensure drop.

You are now sent to collect a piece of literature on the Relic, I don't know if you just go to Gerrolt with this shit or not, but I assume so. In order to get the Relic books you need the following:
Enchiridion, which seems to drop from Dzemael Darkhold in a sixth chest a la the above step. Current conjecture I've read says under 15 minute (5 chest etc) ensures a drop, but that's a crazy moonspeak site.
Oschon's Finger, which comes from high-level Caravans in as of yet unknown manner to me.
Allagan Band, which drops from the boss of any Behest at the Lv40 camps that don't host Company Leves. For the stupid, that's Nine Ivies, Broken Water, and Iron Lake. You can obtain this item before you get to this step, unlike the above four items.
Beastmen Currency, which again you can get beforehand, in an amount of your choosing. The type of currency seems to correspond to the NM you killed for the broken weapon above. In the screenshot posted earlier, for example, they were doing Gae Bolg so they needed 990 willowknots, 495 mapleknots, or 99 ebonknots.

After this step I am even less sure, but it seems you obtain the "Unfinished (insert Relic name here)" items now.
Prevailing theories following this step:
Raise spiritbond on the Unfinished Weapon to max. (Note that the Unfinished Weapons "inhibit spiritbond," so I imagine this is rather annoying grind.)
Apparently some sort of Faction Leve exists which can now be flagged after the above spiritbond step which requires you to defeat an NM while equipped with the Unfinished Weapon.
Then you must clear Garuda and Ifrit (Extreme) while equipped with the Unfinished Weapon.

As the rumors go, the Primal fights are the final step and you are then bestowed with God's glory in the forum of a Relic Weapon you sick no-life bastard who's conned so many people out of Dynamis Currency after four years of hard work.

edit: explaining that took too long, so spoiler, and you're lucky i'm bored enough to write all that up (actually i just wanted to jam all the info in one place that i can find easily cuz i'm liable to forget shit i've read)

/pats hands down, thats it i'm done gg SE gg...., be great if i was a college student and had the summer to piss away but no such lucky :/

[Cichy]

/pats hands down, thats it i'm done gg SE gg...., be great if i was a college student and had the summer to piss away but no such lucky :/

Than it's not for you, they said they designing content for a wide variety of players. This is why we cant have nice things, people think MMO needs to be like affirmative actions and they deserve hand outs because they are special.

[Kurokikaze]

If any people on Sargatanas want to get together and form a static to get some of these quests done - send me a PM. I can play M-F 11PM EST till 2 and all day on weekends. Tired of logging on and not being able to do shit cause everyone has their own little groups. ;/

Aside from all the hamlet farming at the start the rest of that shit doesn't sound all that hard.

[solracht]

Hamlet step should become significantly more bearable if level3 has a chest with a 100% droprate. Maybe I'm hoping for too much though.

[Churchill]

If any people on Sargatanas want to get together and form a static to get some of these quests done - send me a PM. I can play M-F 11PM EST till 2 and all day on weekends. Tired of logging on and not being able to do shit cause everyone has their own little groups. ;/

Aside from all the hamlet farming at the start the rest of that shit doesn't sound all that hard.

Need to PL me some and sure! lols

[Kurokikaze]

Need to PL me some and sure! lols

I thought they broke power leveling recently... unless you're 40+ in which case pm me.

Really want PLD relic lol.

[Fievel]

I thought they broke power leveling recently... unless you're 40+ in which case pm me.

Really want PLD relic lol.

PL still works the same as always.

[Rocl]

Here's a video of Ifrit Extreme.



Notable differences I see:

A Sear-like effect can be applied on a player. It appears he uses a WS (possibly Sear itself?) and whoever this WS is targeted on becomes the epicenter.
Triple Eruption from the get-go.
Hellfire at like 80%? after which he does his glowy Sear pulsing and starts splitting into 3 to jump etc. etc.
Jump resets hate
Jump gives Burn with 75hp/tic that lasts 3 minutes.
Infernal Nails are aggressive? I don't know if it's the Nails or Ifrit, can't really tell, but Eruptions seem to operate a lot differently that what I'm used to seeing! Multiple, it looks like every single party member had an Eruption on them at one point.


No one has their unfinished relic equipped for this fight (I just realized I can watch it in HD bro) but it appears in the beginning everyone is meleeing except the BRD, so perhaps there's some sort of stupid quest reason for this?

[Fievel]

Oh man, lol

I am so excited