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  1. #2661
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    I hate to bring a beta thread in here, but since we're on the subject of stats... has there been any official word on whether or not the current beta stats is going to be all there is? On one hand, it's nice that the stats are all so easy to understand, but on the other hand it's soooooooo bland and boring. Where did the HP drain on the Moogle stuff go? Where is the extra fire damage? Where are the ability buffs on AF? Why is cure potency no longer a thing? Evasion? Enhancing magic pot? Why is there literally no gear with negative stats?

  2. #2662
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    I hate to bring a beta thread in here, but since we're on the subject of stats... has there been any official word on whether or not the current beta stats is going to be all there is? On one hand, it's nice that the stats are all so easy to understand, but on the other hand it's soooooooo bland and boring. Where did the HP drain on the Moogle stuff go? Where is the extra fire damage? Where are the ability buffs on AF? Why is cure potency no longer a thing? Evasion? Enhancing magic pot? Why is there literally no gear with negative stats?
    Was wondering the same thing. They had said that stats on gear were placeholders, but I'm starting to doubt they will be adding them in by launch. Here's hoping because if all I'm doing on any DD is stacking STR it's quite bland as you said.

  3. #2663
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokitoki View Post
    Was wondering the same thing. They had said that stats on gear were placeholders, but I'm starting to doubt they will be adding them in by launch. Here's hoping because if all I'm doing on any DD is stacking STR it's quite bland as you said.
    Not to be that guy, but . . . I brought this up a few weeks ago and most everyone thought I was crazy.

    http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/116...=1#post5765023

    Also, do you have a link to where they said gear stats were placeholders?

    I'm with you guys on this. I wish there was more uniqueness to gear. Yes Lucavi, even if that means CHR on my DRG AF.

  4. #2664
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    Special stats are not in beta. Stop worrying about vanilla stats on ur AF and moogle weapons. They will be implemented after launch.

  5. #2665
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    Remember they want it to be simple and makes sense. CHR on drg af isnt "pointless" but its pointless. He said the combat system is simple foundation and it gets complex later on. Gear doesnt need to be complex, sure currently it could use some tweeks and im sure we would love for AF to have some uniqueness to it. But lets try not to bitch about stupid shit like the beta forums. Stats and gear dont need to be pointless, they dont even have to be unique just have to be useful.

    Somewhat off topic but related. They days of needing a particular class for certain situations are gone cause they dont want to exclude anyone which makes sense because being excluded sucks. the days needing certain gear sets for certain situations (save pvp <--> pve) is going out the window too. Instead now MMOs are trying to give classes a role to play but make them unique in feel and style rather then situational niches

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    There's a lot of middle ground between CHR on DRG AF and what the stats are like now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Achitophel View Post
    There's a lot of middle ground between CHR on DRG AF and what the stats are like now.
    Yeah I agree, but we really wont be able to see until we really get into the game, there is only so much that is available to us now.

  8. #2668
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    So do retainers work like an AH? Or how do they sell things?

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    Retairs are like AH without bidding, you put stuff to your retainer by summoning them at the summoning bell and put shit to sell

    People go to the market boards and browse what they need, and the list of retainers appear and you know the rest

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    It seems there are minor variations in the story quest depending on which city you start in....

    Wondering if I should pick a different starting class just to see the differences when phase 4 rolls around or not...

  11. #2671
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    They all seem to converge after the lvl 15 dungeon storyline quests. I did Gridania and Ul'dah and they took me to the same spot after dungeons. NPC's may or may not stick with you but they fulfill the same role on each path.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kachiko View Post
    They all seem to converge after the lvl 15 dungeon storyline quests. I did Gridania and Ul'dah and they took me to the same spot after dungeons. NPC's may or may not stick with you but they fulfill the same role on each path.
    Yeah, they seem to converge at 15. I ended up getting quests with the Ul'dah NPC afterwards despite starting in Girdania. Just wondering how different the first set of quests are and if it's worth going through and seeing or not.

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    Not that much different I guess. You deal with some issues in the city to get recognized. It's only worth it if you don't mind wasting time I guess?

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    I got a beta key. Tried messing around a bit, but I have no idea how to control my character. I used the keyboard only for FFXI. Can ARR be played this way?

  15. #2675
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ratatapa View Post
    Retairs are like AH without bidding, you put stuff to your retainer by summoning them at the summoning bell and put shit to sell

    People go to the market boards and browse what they need, and the list of retainers appear and you know the rest
    Mind you, each city's marketboard are separate from each other. At least that's how it seems since you pay the tax rate for the city your retainer is currently located in. You can easily move your retainer to your current city buy "dispatching" it. It will be interesting to see how this works in practice. Its been a long time since XI and having 4 different AH's versus the centralized AH/TP setup we have had in every MMO subsequent to XI.

  16. #2676
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigmakan View Post
    Not to be that guy, but . . . I brought this up a few weeks ago and most everyone thought I was crazy.

    http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/116...=1#post5765023

    Also, do you have a link to where they said gear stats were placeholders?

    I'm with you guys on this. I wish there was more uniqueness to gear. Yes Lucavi, even if that means CHR on my DRG AF.
    You weren't exactly clear on what you meant by "uniqueness" and "character" though so nobody understood what you were saying.

  17. #2677
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    Quote Originally Posted by niwaar View Post
    Mind you, each city's marketboard are separate from each other. At least that's how it seems since you pay the tax rate for the city your retainer is currently located in. You can easily move your retainer to your current city buy "dispatching" it. It will be interesting to see how this works in practice. Its been a long time since XI and having 4 different AH's versus the centralized AH/TP setup we have had in every MMO subsequent to XI.
    Guessing this means most people will congregate in Ul'dah with their retainers to sell? Or does the tax rate vary depending on the item in question?

  18. #2678
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    Did the CS viewer disappear? I recall it was in your Inn Room in 1.0, right? Did they mention if it would be there by launch?

  19. #2679
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    afaik it wasn't in the beta, no, and as i recall there was some talk of not being able to view 1.0 CS anyways due to massive overhauls etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    afaik it wasn't in the beta, no, and as i recall there was some talk of not being able to view 1.0 CS anyways due to massive overhauls etc
    That's unfortunate, I coulda swore they mentioned they were redoing those CS's for 1.0 characters.

    But I mainly wanted it in case some CS's get VO's between Phase 4 and Launch.

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