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  1. #901
    Justin Bieber
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    perfect double tier3 is 22% on lv48 headgear i believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiroishime View Post
    perfect double tier3 is 22% on lv48 headgear i believe.
    is that with NQ or HQ gear?

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    That would be on NQ, I believe a triple max TIII is about 10%.

    For reference, base III + base III + max III is 13%, base III x3 is 15%.

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    goddamn, then thats about a 10-15% chance of a 25%~ chance. thats like a 1 in 30 chance of making a triple meld, isnt it? ;;

    ...maybe i should go for triple meld str gloves and use another int ring instead, it sounds cheaper than triple meld int. -.-

  5. #905
    The Once and Future Wamoura
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    Is there a translation of the in-game maps anywhere? Some of the untranslated Eorzean text is interesting and I doubt most/any of it will stay in 2.0; probably because those areas will be destroyed by Allagan Snails, but I digress.

  6. #906
    the whitest knight u' know
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    Argh rocl... I translated them all back in the early days... now I have no idea where those would be now.

    Well what do you know... http://ffxivmaps.com/ I had no idea they were doing this stuff again. And they even translated all the pointless background text like you wanted. :3

    Awesome.

    http://afancifultwist.typepad.com/a_...girl_large.jpg

  7. #907
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    What is the primary and secondary stats for each of the DOW? I know the goal is around 350main 310sec for stats for primal weapons, but I don't know which is which on certain classes.

    thanks

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    war str/vit
    drg str/pie
    mnk str/int
    brd pie/dex
    pld lol/lol

    I kept the lol/lol after edit because no one will ever tell you the same thing for PLD. I just did STR/VIT and that's good enough for a job whose gear is going entirely on retainer/wardrobe.

  9. #909
    Blue Magic is Best Magic
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    What is a good strategy for United we stand? I've lost three times now because people are stupid, but we generally go with WHM WHM BLM BLM BRD DD DD WAR. Having one person run in to grab hate on vanguard and kite him around while another designated person kills generator to kite next and WAR on adds, rest DDing transmitor. Somehow we keep losing... is it the people or is there a better strat?

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    That's the strat basically, you're just need good coordination and all that. Although I must say when I did it with a pt with BLMs we couldn't win. On my win we were WHM WHM BRD WAR WAR WAR DRG DRG. People need to adapt if there are too many adds etc. so yeah, this fight is pretty hectic >.< It's also improtant to try to be as fast as possible, the longer you're fighting the worse it will get.

  11. #911
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    What is a good strategy for United we stand? I've lost three times now because people are stupid, but we generally go with WHM WHM BLM BLM BRD DD DD WAR. Having one person run in to grab hate on vanguard and kite him around while another designated person kills generator to kite next and WAR on adds, rest DDing transmitor. Somehow we keep losing... is it the people or is there a better strat?
    Definitely the others in your group, it's forgiving enough that as long as the person with vanguard hate kites it, everyone else in the group can do a little bit of everything (DDing the adds, the pylons, then center transmitter when one is down, etc) and you'll still clear it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gokulo View Post
    That's the strat basically, you're just need good coordination and all that. Although I must say when I did it with a pt with BLMs we couldn't win. On my win we were WHM WHM BRD WAR WAR WAR DRG DRG. People need to adapt if there are too many adds etc. so yeah, this fight is pretty hectic >.< It's also improtant to try to be as fast as possible, the longer you're fighting the worse it will get.
    Does it take reduced magic dmg? I sorta noticed it was going down extremely slow with my nukes but I wasn't really looking at dmg. I need to set up my UI chat logs better I can hardly tell what dmg I do with a battle tab since I have others in there too.

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    So hard we fuck rocks
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    I'll recommend atleast 3 wars, that cyclone spam makes the fight fool proof. Actually had a buddy go 7wars/1whm and said it was retard proof with that strat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arximiro View Post
    What is the primary and secondary stats for each of the DOW? I know the goal is around 350main 310sec for stats for primal weapons, but I don't know which is which on certain classes.

    thanks
    While Churchill was correct when it comes to assigning stats, it's up to the player what they'd want to put on PLD (because DEX supposedly increases block rate, and VIT is obvious), the actual primary/secondary stats for PLD that you asked for are STR/MND.

    On the other topic, I find BLMs to be very unhelpful in UWS. Melee+Bard+WHM onry. My group was WAR WAR WAR DRG MNK WHM WHM BRD. Can you get by with a black mage? Sure, but I wouldn't suggest taking more than one.

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    i have seen:
    str/vit
    vit/mnd
    vit/dex
    mnd/dex
    str/dex
    str/mnd

    Suggested by varying people. I can see the merit/logic behind most, and not a lot of facts supporting anyone one/two routes.

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    Yes, that's great and all, but he's specifically asking for melee stats. Those are set in stone. They are STR/MND.

    As far as which points you should allocate and/or gear for, yeah, do whatever combo of STR/MND/VIT/DEX that you like, but since he's asking about melee stat caps for weapons, there is only one correct answer.

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    I think it's worth nothing that just doing STR/MND might not be best for GLD because only so many people do that; sure, you can use your reset paper on it and it's no big deal, but I'd rather know ahead of time there's no real consensus on "what" to allocate points to.

    This is like telling a CON to allocate points into PIE/MND with no disclaimer.


    STR/MND are the by the book WS/AA modifiers though.

  18. #918
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    He's not asking what to assign for stat allocations, how are you not getting this?

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    get out

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    You wouldn't know that though because you've demonstrably never picked up a book nor educated yourself on the matter. Let me guess, overweight housewife?
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    knock it off

    all of you

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