The Flash (CW) Season 7 March 2, 2021

[Kaslo]

So, with how they're doing time travel, judging from him seeing the same chick bitch about a cab, that when he travels in time, he takes the place of his former self in that time. So now we don't have 2 Flash's running around?

Which doesn't make sense considering the events with his mom's death.

[Uzor]

It's obvious he was looking at himself. And I don't think as an after image, but the actual him.

Remember what he said? He saw the same thing at the beginning of the episode, and told Dr. Wells. At the end, he goes back in time and keeps running (and looks over at himself) at the same place as in the beginning - hence the same girl yelling at the cab. Not sure how people is not understanding that, considering how obvious it is.

I don't think he's taking the place as himself in the past. My guess is that there's two of him. One doing the exact same things he's been doing in that episode - and the other (who went to the past) doing whatever he'll be doing next episode.

That being said, possibly the best episode of the season. Was amazing.

Edit: I can't remember - what time is Wells from?

[Myrrh_Quetz]

See, but with the current thought of Time Travel, and Wells saying he meant to kill young Barry that we are in a universe where history stays constant. There is no changing the past.

Also, if Future Barry has any interaction with any character(assuming there are two of them) then it would have been seen in the latest episode. Small comments here or there about already talking to Barry. And lets not forget that this is a 1 day out future Barry who wants to help people. He won't let the Police Chief be paralyzed or Weather Wizard take Joe.

Least with him taking the place of his past self, he can still do all the same things but with new information. It won't make much sense when he goes back to when his mother was killed and doesn't actually make sense considering how he time traveled but, for the episodes sake it will make sense.

[Uzor]

True, I suppose. But if speed is all that's required, why would Dr. Wells need Barry to go back to his time? or does Barry travel in time, whereas Wells makes duplicates?

Also; Barry could just reason that interacting with himself or trying to change the past would prevent him from being there in the first place, or something, and decide to stay out of his own way.

[Katlan]

Wells speedster powers are inconsistent for reasons we don't yet know, which will require him to drain/harness Barry's powers. However since the preview showed captain cold it can be inferred that's it's no longer the same time table and things are different

[Uzor]

I download the episodes, and they don't include a preview. I'll have to youtube it.

Edit: Huh - watched the preview. Looks like you're right. He solves it real fast, then Cold appears, and other flash is missing.

[Myrrh_Quetz]

The character would never allow innocent people to be hurt. He's been so blind sided by changing the past that this thought wouldn't have come to him yet. If Barry can stop something, he will. Plus, with the Weather Wizards attack, Barry now knows that he can't run fast enough to stop the attack as its happening. If he tried to do it again, he would just time travel, so Barry would need to stop it before it happens.

I love Time Travel and all the thinking that goes with it. We can go back and forth about how Barry would react but we won't know till we see it next week.

I hope they play it smart.

Also, we just learned the thing about Well's being Eddies grandkid(great grandkid?). Meaning that they just opened up Eddie being the first speed villain from the present.


Edit. Just watched the preview. Okay. that explains how they're doing time travel. good talk

[Uzor]

Also, we just learned the thing about Well's being Eddies grandkid(great grandkid?). Meaning that they just opened up Eddie being the first speed villain from the present.

That's why I wondered when Dr. Wells is from. According to Wiki, Eobard Thawne (Dr. Wells) is born in the 25th Century. But I seem to remember the date of "future newspaper" Wells stares at is from 21st century, which would make him his son/grandkid/great grandkid - and not great-great-great-whatever-grandkid. Either way it explains why Wells wouldn't want Eddie dead.

[Myrrh_Quetz]

It could be an old paper, too.

[Uzor]

I guess. Then again, the TV-version of the DC Comic characters is different from comic ones, so I suppose the best would be to just wait for them to explain it

[nivlakian]

Even though Dr. Wells explained his use of a "speed mirage" during the Reverse Flash vs Dr. Wells incident, how far exactly can he take that? In his demonstration, he merely made a copy of himself that didn't seem to actually do anything. However, in the encounter, you have him in normal clothes vs himself suited up along with the fact that Barry grabbed him and took him outside. I don't see how he pulled off the fight, self-injury and everything while making it seem there had to be 2 people. I would think Dr. Wells had to have disappeared even momentarily when he fought Barry unless he had another hologram thing set up?

[BerenTebogo]

In Wells' last line of the episode he says "Sorry, but to me you've been dead for centuries."

So 2500ish is in line with that.

[macross]

the chick bitching about the cab was pretty cute, and there's no way in hell i'd pick iris over linda park.
So i guess yellow flash went back in time somehow to kill flash, but flash found out and went back too to save himself, now yellow flash is stuck and dunno how to get back to his time so he has to study barry to find the secret to time travel?

[Uzor]

But if he needs Barry to get back to his time, wouldn't he have been stuck there either way if he killed Barry?

[Myrrh_Quetz]

Or, what if, he's put something into Barry's suit that harnesses he's speed and gives Wells his powers, or atleast keeps them stable.

[Adajer]

Maybe he cant run fast enough to time travel anymore, or at a certain speed to get to where he wants to be and only barry can, or will be able to. So he wants to trick barry into opening a time rift for him to run behind.

Killing Barry might have prevented something bad from happening to him, but maybe a different time traveling Barry went back and stopped him and his mother got killed in the process.

We still havent really revisited the wholetime travel to his house when his mom died scene yet.


Also, when eobard was telling Barry about when he thought he saw himself, he was saying that it was probably an after image. An after image is what he should Cisco before he killed him and then they merged back as one. He might have went back in time and merged with himself to make 1 single barry. If they were running at the exact same frequency.

[Brill Weave]

Holy fuck that was an awesome episode.

[Myrrh_Quetz]

So, there are two versions of Wells. That we know of.

There is the year 2500 Wells, who went back in time and killed Barry's Mom. And there is present day Wells. I'm curious as to what happens with Present day Wells that leads to Future Wells trying to kill Barry's Mom.

Also, if Wells is all Evil like he revealed to Cisco, then did he help Ronny? That's still bugging me. He slowed down whatever plan he had to help Ronny. He got nothing out of that. Barry didn't run faster because of it. The only good that came from it was to have Grodd make sweet love to General Fuckhead.

[nicholai]

I think there's only 1 Wells, he's just from the 25th century. He said he meant to kill Barry but killed his mom instead for a reason he didn't say unless I misheard that. IIRC in the comics Eobard Thawne learned who The Flash was and recreated the scenario that gave Barry powers to get his. Then at some point Barry found out because time travel and started fighting against him. I think this was all before the Speed Force was thought up so they can retcon it a bit with the speed force giving Barry powers and how it's possible for Wells to get his. That being said, I think there is at least 1 more speedster running around right now they may just not have shown him yet.

[Adajer]

It may not have helped Barry directly, but it helped keep the team together and happy. I guess