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    Well, the only people who wanted to stop it were regular people with guns cisco made. People who didnt know anything about it before the Flash told them. Reverse flash couldnt have known about the move because cisco removed all the cameras. And with cisco able to make almost anything, you would think he would have made something to disable those guns. And if captain cold knew everything about the gun's schematics, why cant he build one himself. Forgot who, but someone else walked right into their HQ again this episode undetected.

    He had them in an anti super power containment unit, there is nothing eobard could have done to them. Only a driver, who would have been being protected by the flash. what is even worse is that they said Arrow denied helping, then shows up right after to help fight eobard. Could have just helped deliver the inmates.

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    Also, macross may have a weird opinion, but that doesnt warrant the way you guys are constantly laying into him.

    More posts about his posts than his posts. Let him have his speculations I say.

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    It's not so much that he voices his opinions, it's that he does so in the manner equivalent to someone with the language capacity of a 5 year old

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    And forget the fact that flash got incapacitated by a lightning bolt when the last time the weatherwizard tried to hit barry/joe with a lightning bolt while they were in a car barry was able to notice it a couple inches away, grab joe, get out of the car with a grown man, and go a couple meters away before the lightning bolt hit the rest of the car
    That bothered me the most about the episode. one lightning bold took him out for a few minutes and completely knocked im out. They went out of their way to make Barrry just some "fast guy runner" this episode and its like he forget everything he learned up to this point. Even in the Reverse showdown it was Firestorm and Oliver who did everything. All flash did was run in circles around Wells so neither Firestorm or Oliver can do something and then run after Firestorm when he got knocked away

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    Oh yeah, totally forgot about star labs crappy security system, where anyone can just walk in, like captain cold did. At least Iris snuck in for the 2nd time and whacked teleporter girl. Even with the 5 guys escaping he could have just super sonic insta punched at least 4 of them out cold. And why not transport them with handcuffs on? Just the gas guy could get away but the rest would be secured. And since the gas knocked them all out earlier, why not just gas them again when they started to wake up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan View Post
    That bothered me the most about the episode. one lightning bold took him out for a few minutes and completely knocked im out. They went out of their way to make Barrry just some "fast guy runner" this episode and its like he forget everything he learned up to this point. Even in the Reverse showdown it was Firestorm and Oliver who did everything. All flash did was run in circles around Wells so neither Firestorm or Oliver can do something and then run after Firestorm when he got knocked away
    ya it sucks they're not remaining consistent with everything wells has taught him, his increasing speed, and general experience

    if it keeps up throughout the next season like this I can totally see myself losing interest in the show. I'm eagerly awaiting for barry to stop being a retard and actually kick some ass

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    The only plot hole that really struck me as odd was why Cisco didn't just make a new Cold Gun for them to use against Wells. He originally made the one in case Barry ever went rogue, why not have made a second one for Barry to use against Wells. The one episode showed he could make one of those guns in no time at all, so the 36 hours he would have had before Wells returned would have been enough time to make a new one to use as Wells made his appearance at STAR lab's door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pringles View Post
    He originally made the one in case Barry ever went rogue,
    is this 100% or an assumption? I always thought it was retarded how badly matched capt. cold + heat guy were against barry and how bad the writers made barry fight because of it

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    Honestly two of those villains could easily be transported with blinds on, since one controls others by eye contact and the other teleports to where ever she can see.
    The weather dude and the gas guy should be locked up though.
    The fight at the end was alright, though short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    is this 100% or an assumption? I always thought it was retarded how badly matched capt. cold + heat guy were against barry and how bad the writers made barry fight because of it
    In the episode it first went missing, Wells tore into Cisco for why he made it in the first place. Cisco said he made it early on as a way to stop Barry because he didn't know if Barry would turn out evil or not.

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    also, what was up with the ring Eobard had? It looked like the reverse flash ran out of the ring.

    or at least his suit came out of the ring.

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    He carries the costume in it. It's a pretty standard thing for Flash in the comics.

    http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110122013123

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    Holy shit. So much fan service, so amazing. Can't wait for season 2!

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    Epic epic finale. I didn't see it playing out like it did but I think more might be explained next season.

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    Flash was awesome as usual. Not gonna drop spoilers yet til tomorrow though, gotta let them West Coasts watch too.

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    Wow. Seemed like episode had a bit of filler just to fill out an hour. that ending though.

    Pretty epic cliffhanger for a season finale. Bravo for epic season and epic show. I screamed "NOOOOOO" at the end.




    My biggest thing about this whole time travel situation is that Barry must have became the Flash without eobard causing the particle accelerator giving him powers and his mother and father must have been alive in the original time line.

    Also, eobard says he is arch rivals with flash in his time. Which is 150+ years from now. so the Flash lives that long and is still flashing?

    Also wondering what the Jay Garrick helmet means.

    And finally, if eddie dies and eobard is never born, shouldnt that negate EVERYTHING? Barry's mother should be alive.

    Not spoilering shit. You know what day it is. dont click the thread.

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    I'm about 1/3 of the way through, and all I can think is, "If Barry goes back, and changes every thing, maybe Iris isn't such a selfish, needy, useless dink if she doesn't have Barry fawning on her her whole life." That alone would make risking a world-destroying black hole worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adajer View Post
    Wow. Seemed like episode had a bit of filler just to fill out an hour. that ending though.

    Pretty epic cliffhanger for a season finale. Bravo for epic season and epic show. I screamed "NOOOOOO" at the end.




    My biggest thing about this whole time travel situation is that Barry must have became the Flash without eobard causing the particle accelerator giving him powers and his mother and father must have been alive in the original time line.

    Also, eobard says he is arch rivals with flash in his time. Which is 150+ years from now. so the Flash lives that long and is still flashing?

    Also wondering what the Jay Garrick helmet means.

    And finally, if eddie dies and eobard is never born, shouldnt that negate EVERYTHING? Barry's mother should be alive.

    Not spoilering shit. You know what day it is. dont click the thread.
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    Well there are multiple Flash, so he may not mean Barry specifically for all we know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiyama View Post
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    Well there are multiple Flash, so he may not mean Barry specifically for all we know.
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    Except he specifically said Barry Allen, and that discovering that identity was the key to all of this. Theory I have is the explosion from the paper is Flash going ahead in time by however many years.

    Also I was surprised by the episode. I perhaps shouldn't be-- it was the obvious solution in hind sight, and I'm sure some folks saw it coming. I just got caught up in the narrative enough to enjoy it as it came instead of puzzling out how he gets out of the everything. I heartily enjoyed it, and felt they brought a ton of loose ends to a satisfying close throughout the season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marootsoobutsu View Post
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    Except he specifically said Barry Allen, and that discovering that identity was the key to all of this. Theory I have is the explosion from the paper is Flash going ahead in time by however many years.

    Also I was surprised by the episode. I perhaps shouldn't be-- it was the obvious solution in hind sight, and I'm sure some folks saw it coming. I just got caught up in the narrative enough to enjoy it as it came instead of puzzling out how he gets out of the everything. I heartily enjoyed it, and felt they brought a ton of loose ends to a satisfying close throughout the season.
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    Well discovering it's Barry Allen can put a stop to things; stuff like Bart being born, maybe the West line being taken care of.. whatever happens, but yeah. Maybe he does get sucked up into the future? Or maybe Reverse Flash wasn't 150 years in the future after all.

    Who knows. I'm hyped for S2 regardless. I wonder if Tom Cavanagh will be back for S2 in any way. I really love him.

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