This topic is about rape

[Linliel]

If you think that, that's your deal. I actually didn't take any of it personally. You did. Sorry you felt that way, but when something is fucking dumb I'm going to say so. If you're (royal you) sensitive about it then that's unfortunate. If you (royal) disagree, fine, doesn't mean I'm going to agree with you either. If I think you (again, royal you) jump to conclusions without considering how very little information you have, I'm going to say so. If I don't particularly give a fuck about you, I won't bother to even tell you. if a personal attack is something like "I think people who get all self righteous without having proper information to make a good judgment call are being really stupid" then well, I guess you felt it applied to you. If I'm being a bitch, my friends tell me so. If I'm jumping to stupid conclusions without having all the info, my friends tell me so, and I want them to. It sucks that you are upset and hurt. Sorry for that. But honestly if I have to walk on eggshells with someone, I don't consider them my friend. I consider them an acquaintance. I want to hear what the people i love really think, not make niceties. That's me. If that's what you want from your friends, then I guess you're my acquaintance, and that's fine with me, i don't take that personally. I had dinner last night with a guy who I unfriended on Facebook. He's annoying on facebook: he's catty, makes shitty comments, is annoying. In person he is fine though. We had a nice dinner.

OK then, fine. You were jumping to stupid conclusions without all the info. You assumed I was making arguments I wasn't making. You generalised about me when there was absolutely no need to (because I don't agree with the generalisations you lumped me in with). You were a bitch yesterday, Sera. You were nasty and petty, and you shat it all over three different social networks because you so HAD TO BE RIGHT and EVERYONE HAD TO KNOW. I got upset because of the way you treated me in all of that. You don't have to walk on eggshells with me, but you also need to know when it's just fucking retarded to continue on with a conversation because you start pissing off people who actually give a shit about you. I told you that you upset me, and that you were wrong about what I was saying, but you didn't even bother to listen and continued spewing exactly the same shit about what you assumed I was saying even though I'd corrected you several times.

So yeah, next time, fucking listen, okay? I'm calling you out on that as a friend, because you need to seriously work on that.

Anyway, apology accepted, thank you. Let's move on.

[Sera]

So, you unfollow someone because you find their posts annoying, then you probably don't have much in common, and aren't really much of "friends."

But, you don't understand why people treat unfollowing like terminating their friendship?

Seems a bit contradictory. Not saying I agree or disagree.

I guess I should say I don't see why people treat it like it translates into something in "real life". I know quite a few people that I can hang with in person just fine but I find completely insufferable on the Internet. So I see them in person, and I do not interact with them on the Internet.

[Sera]

OK then, fine. You were jumping to stupid conclusions without all the info. You assumed I was making arguments I wasn't making. You generalised about me when there was absolutely no need to (because I don't agree with the generalisations you lumped me in with). You were a bitch yesterday, Sera. You were nasty and petty, and you shat it all over three different social networks because you so HAD TO BE RIGHT and EVERYONE HAD TO KNOW. I got upset because of the way you treated me in all of that. You don't have to walk on eggshells with me, but you also need to know when it's just fucking retarded to continue on with a conversation because you start pissing off people who actually give a shit about you. I told you that you upset me, and that you were wrong about what I was saying, but you didn't even bother to listen and continued spewing exactly the same shit about what you assumed I was saying even though I'd corrected you several times.

So yeah, next time, fucking listen, okay? I'm calling you out on that as a friend, because you need to seriously work on that.

Anyway, apology accepted, thank you. Let's move on.

Frankly I didn't even consider you to be a big part of any discussion I was having. I was in three different threads talking to three different groups of people about it, of all different views. You seem to think that you were somehow centric and that everything I did or said related to you. So, how about you recognize that you were barely on my radar at all, and if you took shit I said personally because somehow you felt you were at the center of my conversational universe, that is on you.

[Shiroikage]

this thread is a good case for not arguing with internet people

[Brill Weave]

I can kind of get what Sera's saying to a point. My wife has a few friends that she can't stand reading their posts etc. But she still does. And bitches about it as she does so. But they're her friends. You take the good with the bad. Nobody is forcing you to read their stuff. It's just as easy to ignore the posts.

[Sera]

I apologized for the fact that you were offended, but frankly you need to realize that you were not even on my radar in that discussion until like, the very end where you had already taken it upon yourself to be offended. Unless you're talking on behalf of someone else I was actually talking to, you assumed quite a bit yourself.

[Sera]

Fact is, I wasn't talking to you, you thought I was, and you were angry because you felt I was being a bitch exclusively to you when I wasn't even really talking to you at all until the very end of it because as I said, you weren't on my radar at all until you got mad. If I was being a bitch, fine, but you were being just as much an uppity cunt.

[The Blackrose]

If you're quantifying friendship based on whether or not they are on your social media of choice's friend list, then some mental evaluations may need to be done.

[Linliel]

I apologized for the fact that you were offended, but frankly you need to realize that you were not even on my radar in that discussion until like, the very end where you had already taken it upon yourself to be offended. Unless you're talking on behalf of someone else I was actually talking to, you assumed quite a bit yourself.

I wasn't offended, I was upset because from my perspective you were handling the argument very poorly (you weren't reading my posts) and resorting to ad hominem attacks specifically against me, which were completely unnecessary. I'm surprised, frankly, that I wasn't "on your radar", because you had made some very specific comments aimed right at me. So I'm not sure who exactly it was who was on your radar in the conversation. Perhaps you should just fucking read people's stuff.

If I was an uppity cunt, it was because I was upset and angry about how you'd treated me earlier in the conversation. You DIDN'T FUCKING READ my stuff, and then you were hypocritically outraged about others being outraged, and it just went downhill from there.

I'm no longer talking about the content of the argument, it was about how you approached it. You need to up your game there, majorly. People who have a difference of opinion from you aren't *against* you. You don't have to go into full on guns blazing omg someone is WRONG ON THE INTERNET mode. It just looks ridiculous and makes people not want to talk to you.

[Sera]

If you're quantifying friendship based on whether or not they are on your social media of choice's friend list, then some mental evaluations may need to be done.

Lol, THANK YOU. how are these things somehow directly an indication of one another now?

[Chun Liroy]

but... you just did just that...

[quannum]

i'm not offended by this thread, im just upset

[Sera]

I wasn't offended, I was upset because from my perspective you were handling the argument very poorly (you weren't reading my posts) and resorting to ad hominem attacks specifically against me, which were completely unnecessary. I'm surprised, frankly, that I wasn't "on your radar", because you had made some very specific comments aimed right at me. So I'm not sure who exactly it was who was on your radar in the conversation. Perhaps you should just fucking read people's stuff.

If I was an uppity cunt, it was because I was upset and angry about how you'd treated me earlier in the conversation. You DIDN'T FUCKING READ my stuff, and then you were hypocritically outraged about others being outraged, and it just went downhill from there.

I'm no longer talking about the content of the argument, it was about how you approached it. You need to up your game there, majorly. People who have a difference of opinion from you aren't *against* you. You don't have to go into full on guns blazing omg someone is WRONG ON THE INTERNET mode. It just looks ridiculous and makes people not want to talk to you.

Lol. Again I was talking to a lot more people than just you, and several things that you chose to take as personal seem to come across to me as "my how the guilty speak" type stuff. If that isn't how you are, why be offended? I didn't say your name until at the end when you came back pissed off and offended. I think people who hop on this feminist outrage bullshit when they don't have any info are being dumb and set the entire gender back. Period. Not everyone on the planet is hating on women because they are women. Like the fact that we as a Society like to tiptoe around the subjects so they dont offend anyones fragile sensibilities, and then remain ignorant. Sometimes there are other factors involved, and it gets really fucking annoying to see women (and some men) play the victim and go "it's because we're women!!!" that sort of concept is WHY "because black" has become a JOKE. The excuse was played out by idiots, and became a joke. Using the word trope made the entire THING a joke.

I didn't treat you any kind of way earlier in the conversation because I specifically do not like discussing feminist stuff with you because I feel that you do that stuff. I avoid you in those conversations. On purpose. I didn't want to have to come out and SAY that because you're clearly very sensitive, and frankly I don't know you well enough to feel comfortable interacting with you about it when I perceive you that way, but that's the fact. When ray uses the word trope, I'll engage him because I feel comfortable doing so and I know he's better than that crap. I don't know you. When you do that stuff, I don't bother with you because to me it's pretentious but why bother? I don't know you well enough. So I didn't address you, on purpose, because I don't do the "because vagina" dance.

[Brill Weave]

but... you just did just that...

[Shiroikage]

can you people use italics or something instead of using caps for emphasis or maybe do it like this: ~didn't fucking read~ or ~thing~

[Sera]

but... you just did just that...

No, I would still hang out with Catie and I do not dislike her in the slightest. I have no issue with her overall. I would not and do not want to discuss feminist issues with her.

The Facebook thing i was describing was that you can literally divide people into user groups, like "acquaintance" and "friend" and allow them to do or not do specific things with regard to interaction based on group, or see specific statuses, et cetera.


That doesn't carry over into inperson interaction though, Leroy. I don't get people who get offended by unfollowing and being in an "acquaintance" group and carry it over into their inperson interactions. That's my point. Is this specific enough?

[Chun Liroy]

Well, I didn't know you meant a literal facebook group called acquaintance.... so that clears it up, yeah.

[Sera]

Well, I didn't know you meant a literal facebook group called acquaintance.... so that clears it up, yeah.

Yes. Those are the default names that fb gives the groups

[Sera]

can you people use italics or something instead of using caps for emphasis or maybe do it like this: ~didn't fucking read~ or ~thing~

Tildes are gay as fuck, you faggot

[Shiroikage]

tildes are ~not~ gay